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Oct 31, 2015 09:35:30   #
ronichas Loc: Long Island
 
Day.Old.Pizza wrote:
One other thought. Did the Charity know he was showing up with his camera in spite of not being the "official" photographer? Is this event advertised as "no cameras"? The Charity might not be the rude party; it may just be the "check writing" former photographer. The Charity may be acting so as to not offend him...lose his financial largess - not to offend you.


i believe they did not know he was showing up with camera, not sure, he was invited as a guest. i am sure they didn't want to offend him, as he is a long time supporter. they certainly could have altered the situation by explaining that to me, when i sent the email, instead of blaming me for being embarassing & difficult.

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Oct 31, 2015 09:40:23   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
ronichas wrote:
YIKES, not ready for any of that...


Its easy gal!! I can assure you that you will feel a whole better.
Tip - Where a pair of marigolds.

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Oct 31, 2015 09:44:48   #
dooragdragon Loc: Alma , Arkansas
 
ronichas wrote:
i won't work for the charity or the event planner.
what i was looking for was some feedback on how others might handle this, do others think i should have not said anything, or should i have stood up for myself.

This day and age One needs to stand up and not be a floor mat to be walked over.
Why I shoot sunrises , sunsets etc, all expect people who will complain even if you hung them with a gold rope.
Pete

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Oct 31, 2015 09:45:53   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
ronichas wrote:
i won't work for the charity or the event planner.
what i was looking for was some feedback on how others might handle this, do others think i should have not said anything, or should i have stood up for myself.


Stand up for yourself, by all means! Make your point to those you dealt with, but do it in a professional manner and then don't look back. You seem to have handled it in a reasonable manner and they seem to have handled it in an unreasonable manner. Fulfill any obligations you committed to and then forget those people and their organization is my advice.

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Oct 31, 2015 09:47:53   #
ronichas Loc: Long Island
 
dooragdragon wrote:
This day and age One needs to stand up and not be a floor mat to be walked over.
Why I shoot sunrises , sunsets etc, all expect people who will complain even if you hung them with a gold rope.
Pete


thanks for your input. that was the suggestion by a professional photographer friend.

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Oct 31, 2015 10:47:49   #
The Villages Loc: The Villages, Florida
 
I think a reply in a very professional way would be appropriate. I would let them know the facts of the case, the fact that you were asked to document the affair, and that you willing accepted. The fact that you were subplanted by another photographer without notification was disheartening, and that you wished you had received notiifcation that other plans had been made.

Thank them for having thought of you in the first place, and wish them luck in their future endeavors.

Possibily send coipies to the other "Directors" of the organization?

Do you know any other Directors that you could discuss this with Before sending any response to their actions?

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Oct 31, 2015 11:11:41   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
Hi ronichas
I don't blame you at all that was very shabby of them to do that to you. Best of luck to you.


ronichas wrote:
i won't work for the charity or the event planner.
what i was looking for was some feedback on how others might handle this, do others think i should have not said anything, or should i have stood up for myself.

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Oct 31, 2015 12:44:23   #
tjphxaz Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
If you have the money, and it's that important to you, send them an offer to contribute more than he does if they will name you official photographer for future events. He apparently bought it, so can you. We already know what the charity is, just haggling over the price to buy them.

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Oct 31, 2015 12:49:11   #
ronichas Loc: Long Island
 
thanks for all the replies.
the director was involved from the beginning. he was the one that said my email was *very disturbing*. i believe had they been honest with me, apoligized and said he was a contributor, it would not have gotten ugly. blaming me was their response...
they did end up posting it on their fb page and thanking me with a link to my website.
it just could have been handled so differently....

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Oct 31, 2015 13:18:01   #
PhotoMan1929 Loc: Virginia, USA
 
ronichas wrote:
hi, would love some thoughts on a situation i found myself in.
i was asked to volunteer my time to photograph a fund raising event. this has always been done by another photographer in the past, who donates time and money to this charity. he was a guest at the event and clearly knew that someone else (me) would be shooting the event.

he came with his camera, took many photos. while i was processing, posting & tagging on facebook, i see a message on the charity's facebook page, thanking the other photographer and posting a link to view/purchase his photos. i was very disturbed by this.

i did send an email to the director & event planner (who requested i shoot the event), expressing my concern over posting a thank you & link to his site, when he was not the designated photographer. well, i got very nasty emails from both of them, saying i embarassed them and myself, being negative, my email disturbing etc, etc.

i feel i was asked to be the designated photographer, he was a guest. they were unethical in posting a thankyou to him for his photos with a link to his site to view/purchase, when he was not the designated photographer. they did post a link with my info late last night, 9 hours after posting his link.

your thoughts? would love to have some input on this, both positive and negative.
thanks!!
hi, would love some thoughts on a situation i foun... (show quote)


What did your contract say? Did you have a contract? If not, why not?

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Oct 31, 2015 13:27:46   #
ronichas Loc: Long Island
 
PhotoMan1929 wrote:
What did your contract say? Did you have a contract? If not, why not?


i did not have a contract. i was asked to volunteer to take photos. do volunteers get contracts?

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Oct 31, 2015 14:14:58   #
dooragdragon Loc: Alma , Arkansas
 
tjphxaz wrote:
If you have the money, and it's that important to you, send them an offer to contribute more than he does if they will name you official photographer for future events. He apparently bought it, so can you. We already know what the charity is, just haggling over the price to buy them.

Sad state of photography if you have to bribe someone to use you for their needs is all I've got to say bout that .
Pete

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Oct 31, 2015 14:30:36   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
ronichas wrote:
hi, would love some thoughts on a situation i found myself in.
i was asked to volunteer my time to photograph a fund raising event. this has always been done by another photographer in the past, who donates time and money to this charity. he was a guest at the event and clearly knew that someone else (me) would be shooting the event.

he came with his camera, took many photos. while i was processing, posting & tagging on facebook, i see a message on the charity's facebook page, thanking the other photographer and posting a link to view/purchase his photos. i was very disturbed by this.

i did send an email to the director & event planner (who requested i shoot the event), expressing my concern over posting a thank you & link to his site, when he was not the designated photographer. well, i got very nasty emails from both of them, saying i embarassed them and myself, being negative, my email disturbing etc, etc.

i feel i was asked to be the designated photographer, he was a guest. they were unethical in posting a thankyou to him for his photos with a link to his site to view/purchase, when he was not the designated photographer. they did post a link with my info late last night, 9 hours after posting his link.

your thoughts? would love to have some input on this, both positive and negative.
thanks!!
hi, would love some thoughts on a situation i foun... (show quote)


Consider it a lesson learned and don't work for them in the future.

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Oct 31, 2015 14:35:55   #
tk Loc: Iowa
 
I've actually had the same thing happen. Turns out they asked two other people to also take pictures. I never thought to ask if I was the only one. I spoke to them after the event and told them I was under the impression I was the only one and would have concentrated on one specific area rather than wear myself thin covering the entire event. They actually looked surprised that I had thought of that and apologized.

But, make no mistake. Not doing that again unless things are very clear. I now know what to ask.

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Oct 31, 2015 18:24:14   #
JCam Loc: MD Eastern Shore
 
Maybe the best solution is to only do this sort of "free work" for charities you support, and not for some group on the other end of a phone. That way you won't be hurt or disappointed.

I occasionally take photos of events for my wife's church, no pay just credit when they publish them. It's just another kind of contribution.

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