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Apr 9, 2012 18:13:28   #
francesca3 Loc: Sausalito, CA
 
Why to take both raw/nef and jpeg even as a new digital camera user:

Here are some photos I took with my newly-acquired digital camera. I took these in jpeg only, and as a total newbie digital camera photographer.

It wasn't until a few weeks later, when I'd read about raw/nef, jpeg, etc. that I decided to take my photos in both raw/nef and jpeg fine.

These are not great shots, but if I had them in raw/nef perhaps I could improve them more NOW than is possible with only jpeg.

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Apr 9, 2012 18:40:17   #
snowbear
 
If I need to shoot very fast when raw would cause the buffer to hang, I use JPG, otherwise I just shoot raw. There is no advantage to raw+jpeg for me.

Like number two, BTW.

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Apr 9, 2012 18:50:31   #
francesca3 Loc: Sausalito, CA
 
snowbear wrote:
If I need to shoot very fast when raw would cause the buffer to hang, I use JPG, otherwise I just shoot raw. There is no advantage to raw+jpeg for me.

Like number two, BTW.


Ohhhh ---> This is new info for me!
It does seem logical that to shoot in raw would take milliseconds longer to record (because of the larger amt. of information being stored by the camera) than to shoot in jpeg.
Never thought of that.
Now my question is, is it the combined raw and jpeg mode that slows down camera recording? Or is it shooting in raw/nef that takes longer?
When shooting wildlife (perhaps expecially birds), this would be valuable information.

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Apr 9, 2012 18:53:17   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
I sometimes shoot in RAW+JPG Small (or normal) when I know I will be posting images somewhere, like here. That way I can post straight from camera Jpegs without having to do any processing, and I still have my RAW images for processing into quality TIF images. I never shoot RAW+JPG Fine as I see no use for it, if I need a quality Jpeg image I can just get one from my RAW file.
This is also handy in my Nikon D7000 which has 2 SD card slots. I keep a 16GB card in Slot 1 for RAW files, and I only need to keep a 4GB card in Slot 2 for the JPGs, thats handy as I still have several old 4MB cards and this way I get to utilize them. Never had a problem with buffer speed this way either, but then, I don't believe in machine-gunning images.

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Apr 9, 2012 19:00:05   #
francesca3 Loc: Sausalito, CA
 
MT Shooter wrote:
I sometimes shoot in RAW+JPG Small (or normal) when I know I will be posting images somewhere, like here. That way I can post straight from camera Jpegs without having to do any processing, and I still have my RAW images for processing into quality TIF images. I never shoot RAW+JPG Fine as I see no use for it, if I need a quality Jpeg image I can just get one from my RAW file.
This is also handy in my Nikon D7000 which has 2 SD card slots. I keep a 16GB card in Slot 1 for RAW files, and I only need to keep a 4GB card in Slot 2 for the JPGs, thats handy as I still have several old 4MB cards and this way I get to utilize them. Never had a problem with buffer speed this way either, but then, I don't believe in machine-gunning images.
I sometimes shoot in RAW+JPG Small (or normal) whe... (show quote)


Excellent thinking, thank you! Thing is, I am just now learning how do post-processing in raw/nef photos, but when I get better at it, I may just take your advice and shoot only in raw/nef.

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Apr 9, 2012 22:58:11   #
snowbear
 
The speed would be related to file size - raw is bigger than jpg so it takes a tiny bit longer. I don't notice a difference with one or two shots, but in continuous when I hold down the shutter, I can tell.

Ultimately, you will figure out what works best for you: jpg, raw, or both.

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Apr 9, 2012 23:03:25   #
francesca3 Loc: Sausalito, CA
 
snowbear wrote:
The speed would be related to file size - raw is bigger than jpg so it takes a tiny bit longer. I don't notice a difference with one or two shots, but in continuous when I hold down the shutter, I can tell.

Ultimately, you will figure out what works best for you: jpg, raw, or both.


Yes, and when shooting birds on the wing, for example, continuous can be crucial to a great shot, thanks!

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Apr 10, 2012 00:09:43   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
francesca3 wrote:
Why to take both raw/nef and jpeg even as a new digital camera user:

Here are some photos I took with my newly-acquired digital camera. I took these in jpeg only, and as a total newbie digital camera photographer.

It wasn't until a few weeks later, when I'd read about raw/nef, jpeg, etc. that I decided to take my photos in both raw/nef and jpeg fine.

These are not great shots, but if I had them in raw/nef perhaps I could improve them more NOW than is possible with only jpeg.

NOTE: Please feel free to attach your photos to this thread if you wish.
Why to take both raw/nef and jpeg even as a new di... (show quote)


actually i can't think of any really great reason for a newbie to shoot in raw/nef/jpg

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Apr 10, 2012 00:22:06   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
docrob wrote:
actually i can't think of any really great reason for a newbie to shoot in raw/nef/jpg


Me either. Saving all those poorly exposed and composed photos in raw+jpg serves no purpose.

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Apr 10, 2012 01:09:18   #
francesca3 Loc: Sausalito, CA
 
docrob wrote:
francesca3 wrote:
Why to take both raw/nef and jpeg even as a new digital camera user:

Here are some photos I took with my newly-acquired digital camera. I took these in jpeg only, and as a total newbie digital camera photographer.

It wasn't until a few weeks later, when I'd read about raw/nef, jpeg, etc. that I decided to take my photos in both raw/nef and jpeg fine.

These are not great shots, but if I had them in raw/nef perhaps I could improve them more NOW than is possible with only jpeg.

NOTE: Please feel free to attach your photos to this thread if you wish.
Why to take both raw/nef and jpeg even as a new di... (show quote)


actually i can't think of any really great reason for a newbie to shoot in raw/nef/jpg
quote=francesca3 Why to take both raw/nef and jpe... (show quote)


haha

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Apr 10, 2012 01:11:08   #
francesca3 Loc: Sausalito, CA
 
mdorn wrote:
docrob wrote:
actually i can't think of any really great reason for a newbie to shoot in raw/nef/jpg


Me either. Saving all those poorly exposed and composed photos in raw+jpg serves no purpose.


Very funny! Maybe I should just quit taking photos at all!

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Apr 10, 2012 02:03:16   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
i did just fine with jpg until people told me what i was missing.i do wish i had the option of raw/tiff though.of cuorse you'll need jpg to post here.

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Apr 10, 2012 02:15:08   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
I am one of those rare people who shoot RAW + JPG (Fine) only because I can immediately upload the JPG and e-mail it to friends; the RAW is archived at a later time.

I know this sounds crazy, but a picture I took at a local wildlife area and sent to a friend was later seen by a local newspaper. I had to dig out a year old RAW image to be able to create a decent half-tone for publication (I just could not get it right with the JPG).

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Apr 10, 2012 02:38:37   #
francesca3 Loc: Sausalito, CA
 
Bill41 wrote:
I am one of those rare people who shoot RAW + JPG (Fine) only because I can immediately upload the JPG and e-mail it to friends; the RAW is archived at a later time.

I know this sounds crazy, but a picture I took at a local wildlife area and sent to a friend was later seen by a local newspaper. I had to dig out a year old RAW image to be able to create a decent half-tone for publication (I just could not get it right with the JPG).


Yep.

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Apr 10, 2012 05:55:32   #
MarkDG
 
francesca3 wrote:
Why to take both raw/nef and jpeg even as a new digital camera user:

Here are some photos I took with my newly-acquired digital camera. I took these in jpeg only, and as a total newbie digital camera photographer.

It wasn't until a few weeks later, when I'd read about raw/nef, jpeg, etc. that I decided to take my photos in both raw/nef and jpeg fine.

These are not great shots, but if I had them in raw/nef perhaps I could improve them more NOW than is possible with only jpeg.

NOTE: Please feel free to attach your photos to this thread if you wish.
Why to take both raw/nef and jpeg even as a new di... (show quote)


As you can see from the answers you've recieved, like MOST (not all) questions pertaining to "what's better in photography", it's a subjective subject, so you'll get many different answers.

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