SHOTS FIRED! Sony aims to be the #1 producer of Full Frame cameras within a year!
Aug 31, 2015 07:29:55 #
Let me relate a funny trick I pulled on the iPhone instructor at the apple store. I recently purchased an iPhone 5 plus. One of the reasons I bought it was because of the very good screen and that it allowed me to carry some of my best shots with me to show off to my friends. I moved the above hummingbird and a half dozen other equally good photos over onto my iPhone. Then I decided to attend a class on photography using the iPhone. I was impressed by the young man teaching the class. It was evident that this young man knew a lot about photography. The class he taught was very entertaining. After the class he was looking at the photos on the students iPhones. He came to mine and did a double take! He asked me, "How did you take these photos. "Using the iPhone", I lied. Again he looked at me and the images back and forth, smiled and shook his head no, saying "No, these were not taken with the iPhone.
We have since exchanged phone numbers and he has agreed to be a guest speaker at my local brick and mortar camera club. I asked him to speak about the iPhone. He is also going to speak about drone photography.
BTW, I believe Sony makes the images sensor used in iPhones.
The best camera is the one you have with you. Lately I have been using my iPhone a lot.
We have since exchanged phone numbers and he has agreed to be a guest speaker at my local brick and mortar camera club. I asked him to speak about the iPhone. He is also going to speak about drone photography.
BTW, I believe Sony makes the images sensor used in iPhones.
The best camera is the one you have with you. Lately I have been using my iPhone a lot.
Aug 31, 2015 09:44:56 #
Why YES Dave... Sony DOES make the sensor in iPhones. :mrgreen:
Sony makes 40% of ALL imaging sensors around the world.
That includes 14 of the top 15 scoring sensors on DxOMARK.com's latest ranking:
http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Ratings
Sony makes 40% of ALL imaging sensors around the world.
That includes 14 of the top 15 scoring sensors on DxOMARK.com's latest ranking:
http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Ratings
Sep 5, 2015 10:47:49 #
tdekany wrote:
I am self employed, so I could most likely meet up with you. Maybe I can help you carry your heavy load :)
Truth be told, most of us will never be on a pro level. No matter how hard I try. But I do love pressing the shutter.
Will you be in Portland? And what exactly are you shooting?
Truth be told, most of us will never be on a pro level. No matter how hard I try. But I do love pressing the shutter.
Will you be in Portland? And what exactly are you shooting?
td, a little late, but I just got into Central Point last night. I'm shooting at 9am for 4-6 hours and then I'm off to Bend for one day.
I do come to Portland once in a while. One of my sisters lives there. Still, I only go maybe once every couple of years. I'll let you know when I'm going that way. My time is always so tight. Never figured out how to just sit down and drink beer and watch TV. But I do envy those that do!!
The Gal I'm shooting today is really beautiful!!! But they always are!
Let me know if you're ever in the Napa to SF or Sac area. We'll get together!
See ya at the Fights!!!! :lol:
SS
Sep 5, 2015 12:09:49 #
Sep 5, 2015 22:55:36 #
CaptainC wrote:
You mean "right." I think your sense of humor is needing some work. The quote was perfect to make the point of his post.
It was obvious it was not about HIS wife - it was a cultural reference.
It was obvious it was not about HIS wife - it was a cultural reference.
I twice said in my life as a joke "I am going to die at 101 at the hands of a jealous man"( I got that quote from a good friend). The lady I was with looked it up on the Internet and concluded that I would cheat on her or I didn't have character or my words would somehow manifest to truth.
She was looking at my post here(not known to me). "Seek and ye shall find". keep in mind this was not said to her.. She found the quote I had posted here. I was somehow asking the universe for something(LOL) The likely hood of either one of those things happening is about zero. But if you google it sure enough it says I'm going to take somebody's wife away and get shot. Who would have thought someone would actually google that. I sure never did. I guess she viewed my words as having a lot of power, with her response having very little power. Who knows all the mysteries that goes into some human minds.
Dear Abby, should I have stuck around when she emailed me with...
Explain this." With a link to my quote?
I finally concluded after she started creating blogs about honor and how to correctly ask for forgiveness, it was time to call it quits.(a blog on just forgiving others would have worked but she had a system of what you needed to do to get forgiveness.) Life is a bit to short to take what people say to seriously.
If you loose who you have over that..it was going to happen with some other infraction.
All she had to say was look buddy you're going to die with me.....and so I would have.....That lady would have been a keeper.
It's time to go fishing! Maybe find someone who likes to fish.....
Happily ever after on the Gulf Coast but watching what I say(LOL)...and making better choices in who I want to surround myself with.
There has to be a Dear Abby that will respond or maybe a fortune teller?
Sep 6, 2015 05:50:24 #
[PalePictures]
I cannot for the life of me see what your post here has to do with the topic, which is about Sony's sensors and their pushing forward in the photographic market.
It may be, that even in a photographic forum, there would be room for it under "General Chat" - who ever he might be!
I cannot for the life of me see what your post here has to do with the topic, which is about Sony's sensors and their pushing forward in the photographic market.
It may be, that even in a photographic forum, there would be room for it under "General Chat" - who ever he might be!
Sep 6, 2015 09:38:42 #
Delderby wrote:
[PalePictures]
I cannot for the life of me see what your post here has to do with the topic, which is about Sony's sensors and their pushing forward in the photographic market.
It may be, that even in a photographic forum, there would be room for it under "General Chat" - who ever he might be!
I cannot for the life of me see what your post here has to do with the topic, which is about Sony's sensors and their pushing forward in the photographic market.
It may be, that even in a photographic forum, there would be room for it under "General Chat" - who ever he might be!
I was making a point. Follow traces back through thread. Many Topics get off point loosing the topic all together. I thought I would go just one step further since nobody seemed to care. Back to topic.
Sep 6, 2015 09:49:36 #
I am considering switching to Sony or at least supplementing my 5dmkiii with a Sony camera. I would have started using the A7RII if there wasn't the heating problem with video. I do believe that mirror less will probably be the future. Canon and Nikon need to speed up their innovation cycle. Sony needs to get a much bigger lens set. Sony has a long time in the sensor innovation.
Glass technology is a more substituable good than sensor technology. If Sony can bring a more diverse glass technology to the table both canon and Nikon will continue to loose market share. Sony imagery and versatility now exceeds many canon and Nikon functions, especially in video which is becoming more of an issue for canon and Nikon with the newer generation of users.
Time will tell.
A good resource is Dave Dugdale on YouTube. Really nice guy.
All about video on the Sony and gh4.
http://learningvideo.com
Best regards to all,
Russ
Glass technology is a more substituable good than sensor technology. If Sony can bring a more diverse glass technology to the table both canon and Nikon will continue to loose market share. Sony imagery and versatility now exceeds many canon and Nikon functions, especially in video which is becoming more of an issue for canon and Nikon with the newer generation of users.
Time will tell.
A good resource is Dave Dugdale on YouTube. Really nice guy.
All about video on the Sony and gh4.
http://learningvideo.com
Best regards to all,
Russ
Sep 6, 2015 10:00:07 #
Russ, the E mount Sony cameras can use nearly ANY lens produced within the last 60 years so lens selection is NOT a problem.
Any glass technology can be used on the A7 series of cameras with the appropriate adapters.
The A7 range of cameras is less than 2.5 years old, yet there are over 50 native E/FE mount lenses available with more being released quarterly. These lenses range from inexpensive consumer grade to the highest quality professional Sony G and Sony Carl Zeiss lenses.
So lens selection is definitely not a problem. ;)
Any glass technology can be used on the A7 series of cameras with the appropriate adapters.
The A7 range of cameras is less than 2.5 years old, yet there are over 50 native E/FE mount lenses available with more being released quarterly. These lenses range from inexpensive consumer grade to the highest quality professional Sony G and Sony Carl Zeiss lenses.
So lens selection is definitely not a problem. ;)
Sep 6, 2015 10:16:18 #
CHOLLY wrote:
Russ, the E mount Sony cameras can use nearly ANY ... (show quote)
Dave Dugdale in the video I listed gave a review a while back on a couple of adapters. I have a lot of money invested in glass and it does put me in a little dilemma. I will probably wait just one more year and see how adapters change or just sell my canon glass and go with the Sony Zeiss combination. One thing that really intrigues me is slog-2. It allows a lot of options for color grading video. Sony is way ahead of canon and Nikon on camera video capability.
I do feel like you're better using a same product glass product, at least for now.
Sep 6, 2015 12:00:00 #
CHOLLY wrote:
Russ, the E mount Sony cameras can use nearly ANY ... (show quote)
Cholly, while you're right about adaptability, let's not forget two important caveats: focusing speed and auto function. None of the Sony a7 cameras is particularly well-suited to sports or other fast-action photography, and this is especially true when using adapted glass. Nevertheless...
Russ, your cautious wait-and-see approach about adapters may well be warranted, depending on what kind of shooting you do, but you mentioned the a7rii. Well, its frame rate maxes out at a respectable but not terribly fast 5fps (same as a Canon 5d3, I believe), but it WILL do that with native Sony e-mount AND Sony a-mount (same as legacy Minolta) or Canon glass on a $100 third-party adapter with full auto function.
Back to Cholly (and Russ): Wasn't the alleged overheating issue all based on some unsubstantiated blog post? (I'm being too polite; yes, it was.) To my knowledge, there has never been a confirmed report of this in the a7 series (though there was an issue with the Sony cell phone and 4k). And that is a very good point about the infancy of the a7 and e-mount line. Considering how good it is now in such a short time, just imagine how it will be in a couple more years, leaving everything else in its rear-view mirror.
Sep 6, 2015 12:24:51 #
Desert Gecko wrote:
Cholly, while you're right about adaptability, let... (show quote)
From what I have read the overheating is real. I concluded that after reading many post on the subject. It's not a periodic thing but appears across all A7RIi cameras for longer video. Depending on how cool your environment is it can shutdown on 4K video anywhere between 10 and 20 minutes. It then takes a while, up to 30 minutes, before you can turn the camera on again.
Usually I will be somwhat of a lagger in my purchases to let the kinks get worked out. When I do go mirrorless(I think that is inevitable) I will probably keep my 5DMkIII and 5DMKII and use the Sony and lighter lenses for travel.
To me the form factor and weight is one of my major reasons for a mirrorless.
The lighter a camera the more likely I am to carry it with me. I do street portraits a lot and I almost never carry just more than 1 lens.
If I was getting a start in photography today I would probably just start with Sony.
I have a big investment in glass. Last month I did sell my 400mmf2.8LIIlens back to B&H. I'm just not doing sports to much anymore. I can always use my 5Diii for that, if I decide to not sell it all.
After looking at images from both the omd-em1 and the Sony A7 series I am convinced mirrorless is the future. Sony, at least for now, is banking on it.
Competition and capitalism is a wonderful thing. Everyone benefits.
Sep 6, 2015 15:32:53 #
So stick to your dslr. Photography, the last I looked isn't all about sports or BIF. Otherwise this camera is very capable.
Desert Gecko wrote:
Cholly, while you're right about adaptability, let... (show quote)
Sep 6, 2015 17:38:32 #
tdekany wrote:
So stick to your dslr. Photography, the last I looked isn't all about sports or BIF. Otherwise this camera is very capable.
Really? That's your take on what I wrote? I was not criticizing the a7rii; I'm drooling over that fine machine! Indeed, I plan on buying one next year (unless an a99ii comes out that suits me better).
I'm truly astonished you would think I'm bashing the a7rii, perhaps simply because I mentioned its somewhat sluggish max 5fps (in my eyes, its singular shortcoming), and even that I compared to the 5d3, which is the darling of half of those in this forum, it seems.
You should also understand the context. Russ had commented about adapters, and current adapted lenses have - until now, on the a7ii - slowed a7 cameras considerably.
You are correct, however, that photography is about more than bif or sports. Any a7 series camera is fantastic for just about any kind of shooting except, as I pointed out, fast-action.
Sep 7, 2015 16:52:38 #
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