Sony, mirrorless (Page 2): That seems to be the case. Not a knock on Sony - I continue to look at them as a possible "next" camera. This may be the future of things

teesquare Loc: USA

picturesofdogs wrote:

With the size of some cameras, it's now more like you're putting the camera on the lens, than the lens on the camera.

That seems to be the case. Not a knock on Sony - I continue to look at them as a possible "next" camera.

This may be the future of things - in that until some creative lens engineers figure out a way to reduce lens size while effectively covering the sensor - we have shrinking camera bodies - but the lenses for APS-C and FF remain similar in size to prior generations of design.

Gaddysmom

Have the NEX7 and an A6000 and love both. Would like an A7 II, but the budget won't bear it, yet, and as others have noted, the lens selection is not great yet.

I am particularly interested in the in-camera, five-point IS. What do people who actually own the cameras think of it?

John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN

picturesofdogs wrote:

With the size of some cameras, it's now more like you're putting the camera on the lens, than the lens on the camera.

How very true - a camera is just a lens mount when you come down to it.The finest camera ever made delivers lousy pictures if the lens is junk.

SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA

If there ever is a next camera in my future, it will be an A7s.

When so many manufacturers are using Sony sensors in their cameras, why not just go to the source? :?

I want an A7s for its outrageously high ISO capabilities.

phkowalchuk Loc: Aurora, CO

I have Sonys. The Rx100 III (with the external EVF), the A7r and the Rx1r. Sold Leica stuff to get these and don't regret it one bit. So impressed with the A7r II that I sold my motorcycle to pay for it (and some other stuff). And I love to ride. That's how much I love these cameras! Got the new camera just yesterday and have been missing my Harley for a week now.

tinplater Loc: Scottsdale, AZ

Snecko wrote:

I've just bought one too but need more practice to get better photos. The photos are beautifully sharp but Are a bit dark and I have to process afterwards.

You might check if your camera has a rotating exposure compensation dial (like my A7r). I was getting over exposed images, couldn't figure out why until I noticed the dial had migrated from the 0 index point.

picturesofdogs Loc: Dallas, Texas.

Gaddysmom wrote:

Have the NEX7 and an A6000 and love both. Would like an A7 II, but the budget won't bear it, yet, and as others have noted, the lens selection is not great yet.

I am particularly interested in the in-camera, five-point IS. What do people who actually own the cameras think of it?

Shot as low as 1/6 of a second. It's great.

gemlenz Loc: Gilbert Arizona

billnikon wrote:

These smaller Sony cameras are nice but lens selec... (show quote)

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Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA

CLF wrote:

I looked at Sony mirrorless cameras for the first time yesterday. Small and light does not do them justice. I am amazed by how small they are. For my catcher gloves I call hands I found holding the cameras with the lens cradled in my hand to give me the most comfortable hold. I can understand why so many people like them.

Greg

The size and weight are great. I do have several complaints about Sony cameras, but the a6000 was the most comfortable camera I've had in twenty years.

josephnl Loc: Irvine,, CA

CLF wrote:

I looked at Sony mirrorless cameras for the first time yesterday. Small and light does not do them justice. I am amazed by how small they are. For my catcher gloves I call hands I found holding the cameras with the lens cradled in my hand to give me the most comfortable hold. I can understand why so many people like them.

Greg

For the price, the a6000 is one heck of a camera. If you can spare the bucks, paired with the Sony/Zeiss 16-70, you'll have a terrific combination.

teesquare Loc: USA

josephnl wrote:

For the price, the a6000 is one heck of a camera. If you can spare the bucks, paired with the Sony/Zeiss 16-70, you'll have a terrific combination.

It was one of my "finalists" before I bought this time around...And - I may still have to have one - if I can sneak it in
:D . I see it as a great - almost "pocket" camera. That does change quickly when you reach for a lens with much range....

josephnl Loc: Irvine,, CA

teesquare wrote:

It was one of my "finalists" before I bought this time around...And - I may still have to have one - if I can sneak it in
:D . I see it as a great - almost "pocket" camera. That does change quickly when you reach for a lens with much range....

Unfortunately, the Sony/Zeiss 16-70 does add significant heft to the camera, but it's a great combo!

teesquare Loc: USA

josephnl wrote:

Unfortunately, the Sony/Zeiss 16-70 does add significant heft to the camera, but it's a great combo!

Yes - it is. I played with one for some time - and thought of it as the most powerful of the "pocket-sized" camera bodies I had seen/held/ shot with. And the price...put is in a category of it's own as for "bang for the buck.

Bushymonster Loc: Oklahoma City. OK.

I can't really say a lot about them. I just know that Sony had a record of starting project such as the Game boxes and other items that ended up a loss because Sony didn't sink more money into them. Don't get me wrong I like Sony I have a big screen and stereo and a blue-ray DVD player and have owned a lot of other electronics but I just hope people don't loose their money if Sony doesn't put some bucks in lenses and an upgrade (a little faster) in their cameras. Like I said this is coming fro someone that has not even handled one of them. My Canon feels good in my hands and I have a mountain of lenses if I had the money to invest into.
I am looking into hearing more about them from you all. I am going to have to get to the camera and pick up one of them there Sony cameras. Yep I have to get out more. I am still recovering from a heart attack two weeks ago.
-Bushy

teesquare Loc: USA

Bushymonster wrote:

I can't really say a lot about them. I just know t... (show quote)

It is undeniable that they "started" some formats that were Sony exclusives that either did not flourish in the open market - then they have quietly gone away...

BetaMax - their competition to VHS format video cassettes - died in the consumer market - but is still the standard for many TV camera crews....

Sony Memory Stick.....seemed like a good idea at the time, but - it has all but completely disappeared as well.

Then again Olympus has killed it's own 4/3 system. and - the media card that Oly had for a few years also went away.

My point is that any company that is striving to be inventive will likely make a few mis-steps along the way.

Not a slap at Canon - but, they - like Nikon tend to watch and see what works with the smaller companies in cameras ( Oly, Sony, Fuji, Pentax, Panasonic, et al ) before they invest in similar approaches/technologies.
One could reckon that latency as prudent...One could also reckon that Canon and Nikon are o.k. with not being perceived as "inventive"....as long as their conservative approach keeps the stock holders happy - and them placed at No# 1 and No#2 in camera sales.
That may change...but it will take a number of years to see....