Canon 5D III vs 5Ds vs 5DSR ...
SharpShooter wrote:
Haydon, don't feel bad, maybe Nightski actually has a LIFE!! :lol: :lol:
She'll be back. I'm sure she'll give you a biscuit AND a pat!!! :lol:
SS
Geez SS!!! :roll: :roll: :roll: I suppose you want your pat next .... Well here it is ... your bicyclist shots are amazing. I know .. I am learning ... but I still like to mull all this info around in my head and I needed to wonder out loud and wanted to hear what other people thought.
18mp can be very adequate for landscape Nightski, especially in a camera as good as that.
Not much difference between 18 and 21 or 24 at all.
I have blown 6mp up to 16x24" and even to 30x20" once.
Frequently blew 12mp up to 30x20".
lighthouse wrote:
18mp can be very adequate for landscape Nightski, especially in a camera as good as that.
Not much difference between 18 and 21 or 24 at all.
I have blown 6mp up to 16x24" and even to 30x20" once.
Frequently blew 12mp up to 30x20".
Don't you ever wonder what it would look like if you had 50mp? :-)
Nightski wrote:
Don't you ever wonder what it would look like if you had 50mp? :-)
Yes.
But also, I wonder if 50mp would show up glaring inadequacies in my technique.
lighthouse wrote:
Yes.
But also, I wonder if 50mp would show up glaring inadequacies in my technique.
Truly laughing out loud. LOL .... maybe you've got a really good point here .. stick to less MP's for a while ... note to self.
Nightski wrote:
Geez SS!!! :roll: :roll: :roll: I suppose you want your pat next .... Well here it is ... your bicyclist shots are amazing. I know .. I am learning ... but I still like to mull all this info around in my head and I needed to wonder out loud and wanted to hear what other people thought.
As I sit here on all fours, panting with my tongue hanging out, I do so love those little bone shaped biscuits!! :lol:
But seriously, thanks for the pat!! 😍 😍
SS
SharpShooter wrote:
Haydon, don't feel bad, maybe Nightski actually has a LIFE!! :lol: :lol:
She'll be back. I'm sure she'll give you a biscuit AND a pat!!! :lol:
SS
Thanks for your words of wisdom SS. wait a minute... maybe I made a mistake about the wisdom part...
Haydon wrote:
Thanks for your words of wisdom SS. wait a minute... maybe I made a mistake about the wisdom part...
Haydon, no fears, I still have ALL my wisdom teeth!! :thumbup:
SS
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Nightski wrote:
I read this review.
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-5ds-srIf you scroll down the specs are listed side by side. Now I have these questions in my mind.
What does 50.2MP vs 22.1MP really mean? It sounds amazing. Would I notice a clear difference in IQ?
The 5DS & 5DSR have a maximum ISO of 6400. The 5D III has a maximum ISO of 25,600. My 6D has a maximum ISO of 25,600. I have shot some decent shots at 6400. I have shot some crappy shots at 6400. I think it depends on the light you have when shooting at high ISO's. I think .. high ISO is not some kind of magic that lets you shoot in low light all the time. Here's my question.
If the max ISO is 6400, does that mean that the acceptable ISO is much lower?The other thing that is important to me is fps. I have been shooting alot of wildlife this past year. I have been frustrated a few times by the lag. The fps of the 5DIII is 6. The fps for the 6D is 4.5. Would I notice a difference? The 5DS & SR are only 5 fps.
All three of these cameras have a 61 point focus system 41 of which are cross type and 5 are double-cross type ... would this actually be more helpful than the fps in shooting bif?
BIF .. Wildlife is almost always seen at dusk and dawn. This means a high shutter speed in low light .. would the ISO really come into play here? Would that max of 6400 really limit me in these conditions? I never shoot over 6400 on my 6D because if it's that dark and I am forced to go higher, I know in my heart it's going to be the delete button for those shots when I get home.
Thanks in advance for any wisdom offered.
I read this review. br
http://www.dpreview.com/pr... (
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We have yet to see how well the new Canon performs in actual use although DPRs images look very good.
The cameras you are comparing are intended for different purposes. Both have advantages and short comings depending on your shooting preferences and existing equipment.
SharpShooter wrote:
Haydon, no fears, I still have ALL my wisdom teeth!! :thumbup:
SS
Keep it up SS....you're forcing me to move to Montana where DR kills Canon ds ;)
While I appreciate all the comments that the 5DSR is supposedly for studio and landscape work, I have one on order for shooting wildlife in South Africa later in the year. One of the biggest problems with wildlife shooting is not having the right focal length lens on at the right moment. You have an animal perfectly framed with your 800mm and then it moves quickly towards you, to the point where you want to be at 400mm or 200mm. Having multiple bodies is a solution, but it still takes time to switch, and if you are worried about missing shots because the frame rate is only 5 instead of 6 swapping bodies takes a lifetime! I do have multiple bodies, but I also have the Canon 200-400 F4 with the built in 1.4 converter. This gets you 200-560 with just the flick of a lever.
What I am looking forward to is using the 200-400 on the 5DRS where having double the number of pixels allows for a 1.4X crop to the same image size as full frame on the 5DIII. Now I know there will be a loss of quality as the resolution of the lens becomes the limiting factor, but there is an offsetting benefit in the fact that you gain a whole stop in speed as compared to adding in a 1.4 converter because the crop doesn't change the sensor effective ISO.
Now I am hoping that I can get an effective 200-560 all at F4, and then an effective 280-800 at F5.6 with the built in converter flipped in, and an amazing 400-1120 at F8 if I take that time to add an external 1.4 converter as well. AND since it is still at F8, I get (or I am assuming that I get if the AF is like the 5DIII) autofocus with the center spot.
Other lens combinations just beg to be tried.
Add in the potential for avoiding dust ingress into the camera by making fewer lens changes, and I am really looking forward to trying it out.
SquashFan wrote:
While I appreciate all the comments that the 5DSR is supposedly for studio and landscape work, I have one on order for shooting wildlife in South Africa later in the year. One of the biggest problems with wildlife shooting is not having the right focal length lens on at the right moment. You have an animal perfectly framed with your 800mm and then it moves quickly towards you, to the point where you want to be at 400mm or 200mm. Having multiple bodies is a solution, but it still takes time to switch, and if you are worried about missing shots because the frame rate is only 5 instead of 6 swapping bodies takes a lifetime! I do have multiple bodies, but I also have the Canon 200-400 F4 with the built in 1.4 converter. This gets you 200-560 with just the flick of a lever.
What I am looking forward to is using the 200-400 on the 5DRS where having double the number of pixels allows for a 1.4X crop to the same image size as full frame on the 5DIII. Now I know there will be a loss of quality as the resolution of the lens becomes the limiting factor, but there is an offsetting benefit in the fact that you gain a whole stop in speed as compared to adding in a 1.4 converter because the crop doesn't change the sensor effective ISO.
Now I am hoping that I can get an effective 200-560 all at F4, and then an effective 280-800 at F5.6 with the built in converter flipped in, and an amazing 400-1120 at F8 if I take that time to add an external 1.4 converter as well. AND since it is still at F8, I get (or I am assuming that I get if the AF is like the 5DIII) autofocus with the center spot.
Other lens combinations just beg to be tried.
Add in the potential for avoiding dust ingress into the camera by making fewer lens changes, and I am really looking forward to trying it out.
While I appreciate all the comments that the 5DSR ... (
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Maybe you should get that 5DIV preordered too ... then you can take both of them out with your 800mm lens and really have some fun. Do you have a picture of that 800mm lens? Aren't those kind of heavy?
SquashFan wrote:
While I appreciate all the comments that the 5DSR is supposedly for studio and landscape work, I have one on order for shooting wildlife in South Africa later in the year. One of the biggest problems with wildlife shooting is not having the right focal length lens on at the right moment. You have an animal perfectly framed with your 800mm and then it moves quickly towards you, to the point where you want to be at 400mm or 200mm. Having multiple bodies is a solution, but it still takes time to switch, and if you are worried about missing shots because the frame rate is only 5 instead of 6 swapping bodies takes a lifetime! I do have multiple bodies, but I also have the Canon 200-400 F4 with the built in 1.4 converter. This gets you 200-560 with just the flick of a lever.
What I am looking forward to is using the 200-400 on the 5DRS where having double the number of pixels allows for a 1.4X crop to the same image size as full frame on the 5DIII. Now I know there will be a loss of quality as the resolution of the lens becomes the limiting factor, but there is an offsetting benefit in the fact that you gain a whole stop in speed as compared to adding in a 1.4 converter because the crop doesn't change the sensor effective ISO.
Now I am hoping that I can get an effective 200-560 all at F4, and then an effective 280-800 at F5.6 with the built in converter flipped in, and an amazing 400-1120 at F8 if I take that time to add an external 1.4 converter as well. AND since it is still at F8, I get (or I am assuming that I get if the AF is like the 5DIII) autofocus with the center spot.
Other lens combinations just beg to be tried.
Add in the potential for avoiding dust ingress into the camera by making fewer lens changes, and I am really looking forward to trying it out.
While I appreciate all the comments that the 5DSR ... (
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Good luck sir, Canon has implicitly said that the 5Ds/r is a tripod camera only. You certainly have great equipment, please share your images so others like myself can salivate ;)
What is the weight of each of these three cameras?
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