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Jun 3, 2015 08:45:04   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Jcmarino wrote:
My Nikon has a Sony sensor in it. However, I do find that people and other photographers do not take me seriously when I show up with my Sony as opposed to my Nikon and huge glass.
To me, that is an advantage. Most of my photography is "Street Photography" in some sense; I want people to act as they would act if my camera were not there, and I find that having a big black "stealth" camera moves me in the wrong direction.

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Jun 3, 2015 08:46:55   #
AndyCE Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
f8lee wrote:
This is actually incorrect . I worked at Sony America in the strategic planning department in the early 80s, and I can tell you the actual story of why Betamax fell to VHS. It has everything to do with corporate hubris.

Betamax was in fact technically superior, which makes sense since it was the second generation videocassette that Sony made - The first being U-matic, which used 3/4 inch tape and was used in schools and industry. As technological progress continued, Sony managed to fit the video signal on half inch wide tape and at the same time created a better cassette mechanism which was Betamax .

However, the problem with Betamax was it's one hour maximum recording time - remember this was in the days when the networks had their Sunday movie of the week which lasted for two hours. Sony America went to headquarters and ask them to make a version that could record for two hours, but Tokyo refused because from an engineering standpoint this would have reduced the quality of the video image. At least if you watched on an oscilloscope ...

Anyway, then RCA went to Sony Tokyo and asked them to make a version that would last for two hours and put the RCA name on it so there will be no quibbling about the image quality. Again, Sony refused. So RCA then went to Matsushita (who made the Panasonic brand sold in America) and ask them to create a two hour capacity videocassette system. And that is what became VHS-ironically, using the same older cassette mechanism technology as the original U-matic.

So, because Sony in Japan did not want to listen to their US counterparts (there were no television shows in Japan that were longer than one hour) they ended up going from having 100% marketshare to a small percentage in a very short time. While it is certainly true that the porn industry was the major propellant behind the success of videocassettes ( as it has been for newer technologies as well), it was not the reason Betamax died.
This is actually incorrect . I worked at Sony Ame... (show quote)


Thanks for the interesting read!
Andy

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Jun 3, 2015 08:48:19   #
Jcmarino
 
:thumbup: rehess

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Jun 3, 2015 08:50:28   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
As coined back in 1997 by Apple...Think Different.

Don't worry about what others may think. Let them go home with the sore backs, arms and necks.




:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jun 3, 2015 08:53:56   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
kwbybee wrote:
I watch video's of "professional" photographers saying that the DSLR is going to fade out and that mirror less is the future.
Opinions?


The future IS mirror less. More to come.

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Jun 3, 2015 08:55:46   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
SharpShooter wrote:
In the ICL market, what is the market share of ML? They've been around more than 10 years and can't get beyond probably 10%!!
This is the second time in this thread that you have made this (mis)statement. The first time I did not respond directly, but simply posted, and briefly commented on, a graph. I have updated this graph. I am posting it here in direct response to your (mis)statement. According to CIPA statistics, shipments by Japanese manufacturers over the past year show that, on average, 76% of interchangeable-lens cameras have been DSLR. By elementary school math that means that 24% (almost one-fourth) have been MILCs. I'm kind of guessing that if Korea-based Samsung were included in these statistics, they would show the percentage of MILCs would be a tad higher. You are correct that MILCs do not dominate, but they are a much higher percentage than your "under 10%" throw-away line.

Shipments by Japanese manufacturers
Shipments by Japanese manufacturers...

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Jun 3, 2015 09:15:48   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Some professionals (They do it for money) have already switched, but I don't see DSLR's going out of production any time soon. It's all about profit. When the camera companies see more profit from something else, the DSLR will die.


One area of concern with mirrorless cameras is battery life and the relative poor quality of the electronic viewfinders.

Batteries are small and thus don't last long. The size is part of the "lightening up" of the cameras although they are not much lighter.

I find the EVFs difficult to use and much less clear than an optical viewfinder. I simply cannot use the rear LCD in bright sunlight, at least when shooting handheld.

The D-810 has alread attacked the mirror noise aspect. Add a fully articulated LCD for those odd position shots, and they will further hold off the mirrorless assault.

Overall size (excluding weight), however, is another story

My $0.02

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Jun 3, 2015 09:19:15   #
balticvid Loc: Queens now NJ
 
I'm old enough to remember that before SLRs/DSLRs I owned "mirrorless" cameras. Nikon S3-S4-SP.
Canon copied Leica way back then. You couldn't tell them apart.
Nikon/Canon saw fit to discontinue their "rangefinder" cameras. They were beautiful cameras.

Look at Leica M3s in the 60's. Zeiss also had quality "rangefinder" cameras.
Small and compact. Built like a tank. Took care of the parallax problem (Leica) with the brightest viewfinder I ever looked thru.
Advantage to a SLR/DSLR is when using longer lenses.
My old prime Leica lenses fit the new digital Leicas.

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Jun 3, 2015 09:23:27   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
The rest of the world can buy anything they want. I like my DSLR's. If someone gave me a mirrorless I would probably give it to my wife or the kid down the road. I have absolutely no interest in them. To each their own!

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Jun 3, 2015 09:31:10   #
Shutter Bugger
 
Leitz wrote:
There are no interchangeable lens point and shoots in MY future!


imho if it has a changeable lens feature it is not point and shoot.


Having said that, on the appropriate settings, you can point
and shoot all DSLRs with an AF lens... "just sayin'"

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Jun 3, 2015 09:40:03   #
tomeveritt Loc: Fla. + Ga,NY,Va,Md,SC
 
Leitz wrote:
There are no interchangeable lens point and shoots in MY future!


Not in My Future, there will always be a supply of incredible DSLRs around while I'm still around.

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Jun 3, 2015 09:44:48   #
tomeveritt Loc: Fla. + Ga,NY,Va,Md,SC
 
Leitz wrote:
Which mirrorless doesn't use glass?


The comment you quoted was "Glass for DSLR s", most of us know that the P&S use glass for lens.

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Jun 3, 2015 09:48:11   #
Shutter Bugger
 
Leitz wrote:
Which mirrorless doesn't use glass?


Basils post Leitz, made the implication that manufactures
will not produce mirrorless cameras that will mount DSLR
lenses.

Frankly I disagree with Basils belief. I think some manufactures
will produce high quality cameras without the prism and mirror
that will mount their older lenses.

You see, Nikon (and others)
could have produced Digital SLRs that would not
accept the lenses for the older film cameras; however the
ubiquitous "F" mount lenses that go back to the stone age
fit todays Nikon DSLRs.

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Jun 3, 2015 09:56:13   #
ralphc4176 Loc: Conyers, GA
 
I have two mirrorless cameras and one "essentially mirrorless" (Sony a58). I generally prefer and use my Canon 5D II, but sometimes I use my NEX6 because of its small size/light weight, and sometimes I use my a7R because of the larger number of pixels in the FF sensor. I suspect that conventional DSLR cameras will be around as long as people are willing to buy them. Like vinyl records and cassettes, which lost their popularity quickly when audio CDs became readily available. It's all about the wishes of the consumer.

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Jun 3, 2015 10:00:13   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Future of a DSLR Body... a shelf oddity. Gone replaced by a phone!!!

ME? Yes, I have two Sony DSLR to look professional. BUT, my new standard like my old folding 35mm camera of the late 50s is a pocket super zoom 20 mp, 30x Zeiss lens Sony HX50v. WiFi, GPS, remote shutter, fantastic IQ (small sensor) and as refurb $180. In my belt pack (not waste pack) containing extra battery, extra memory, ID and cards, and phone. Add my Pass Port and I can go anywhere!!

Go to a school, ask them what camera they have, most will hold up and wave their camera that is oh.. also a phone. Some will have surface 3 which has a 15" viewing screen not a 3" or eye view.

The world is going to be small... interchangeable lenses a small stick on group for about 100... from microscope to long telephoto. Post processing will be aps that are at most $10, most for free.

iPhone photo ninja:
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/apple-world-gallery-shows-how-you-can-become-an-iphone-photo-ninja-20150311-13ysb5.html

Lenses see top 10 review:
http://iphone-lens-kits-review.toptenreviews.com/

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