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Mar 18, 2012 10:03:29   #
jfrrn117 Loc: chicago
 
It's a pot of coffee for me, lol....

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Mar 18, 2012 10:37:17   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
tramsey wrote:
I hate this forum. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I hate this forum. Two reasons: First, It's addictive. I'm sure you all understand what I'm taking about so I won't explain. Second, A lot of years ago I bought a camera that I thought I could handle. I took all kinds of pictures, grand kids, flowers, at the zoo, etc, etc, etc. Perfectly happy. then I ran across this forum and saw all the really, really sharp photos. All of a sudden mine didn't look so good. I posted a couple and got blasted. That's fine. I was told my focus was off several feet from the subject and my compostion was nonexsitent and several other things. That's good. MWAC told me in no uncertain terms, GET OFF P(program,automatic). Hey that's scary!
Things are coming along and now I'm trying to get good bokeh, blur out the background. Unable to accomplish this. What am I doing wrong? All the pictures were taken with a bridge camera a Lumex DMC FZ 20. (I said a lot of years ago)

#1 F 2.8
1/640

#2 F3.7
1/400

#3 F2.8
1/25

I have a thick skin so don't spare the horse power. I want to know why my bokeh stinks
I hate this forum. I've said it before and I'll s... (show quote)


one can only do so much to control bokeh......your background in #1&2
is flat, uniform in color, luminiosity, and tone - there is nothing there to create bokeh in the first place.

#3 the flower - you are shooting down - so where is the light supposed to emanate from that could cause "circles of confusion?" I believe - could be wrong - bokeh is as much a function of the light as all the other stuff - and these are all shot in flat light.

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Mar 18, 2012 13:16:10   #
mdhatt
 
Ha Ha I like you already!!! Me too. 1st camera brownie starmight. My mom swore those were her pictures of the grand canyon! The only way I proved they were mine was I had black and white, she had color. I then got one of the 1st Canon Powershots. It didn't even have auto focus but I got great bokeh and it had one built in lens that was the best. One easy trick I learned with portraits for sure, is to go outside and use natural light. Have the subject stand in front of something colorful like a maple tree or purple flowers or a painted fence BUT NOT TOO CLOSE. Zoom in to the subject for the best focus. By zooming in, you are forcing your camera to pick a depth of field. Play with the distances of your subject to the background and more importanty, your disance to the subject. I'm just strictly hobby but have gotten lucky with this technique that does not take a lot of brain power for me.

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Mar 18, 2012 14:46:39   #
wsmethers Loc: Cody, Wyoming
 
Hope she gets better! Then you can play with Bokeh, wife first, bokeh later.
tramsey wrote:
Sorry about the long delay. My wife just had another episode, don't know what else to call it. Looks and acts like a heart attack but isn't. Had to take her to the hospital and now I'm back to get some things for her. Don't know how long I'm going to be gone.

The info sounds good, haven't read or heard anything like that before. I'm going to try it and soon as I'm able.
Thanks again.
I owe you big time,

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Mar 18, 2012 14:48:13   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
photogrl57 wrote:
Try using the largest aperture (smallest number) and zoom in so you are using a longer focal length. A longer focal length will blur just about everything but your focal point. .. giving shallow depth of field


I think this is the idea. I don't know if this will work as well on your camera since your lens and camera uses point and shoot zooming technology. I just use PS CS5 to create something close to what you're looking for. I'm not very good at making tight selections but with practice you can do it.



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Mar 18, 2012 15:10:45   #
photocat Loc: Atlanta, Ga
 
There are various software options to help create a similar look, Topaz labs has one and it is still on sale until tonight if you use the code topazgold.

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Mar 18, 2012 15:16:06   #
BigTomN
 
Take a look at Topazlabs site and view the "Lenseffects" program.

My wife had that and it turned out to be panic attacks.
Tom

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Mar 18, 2012 15:21:11   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
The question here is not about post processing that can do just almost anything but about how to do it on the field w/o PP crutches.

Using PP special effects s something anyone can do. Creating it on the field is demonstrating photographic skills. The difference between a good photographer and a garbage collector.

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Mar 18, 2012 15:48:18   #
RC0448 Loc: Tacoma WA
 
English_Wolf wrote:
The question here is not about post processing that can do just almost anything but about how to do it on the field w/o PP crutches.

Using PP special effects s something anyone can do. Creating it on the field is demonstrating photographic skills. The difference between a good photographer and a garbage collector.


:-) :thumbup:

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Mar 18, 2012 15:54:03   #
photocat Loc: Atlanta, Ga
 
English_Wolf wrote:
The question here is not about post processing that can do just almost anything but about how to do it on the field w/o PP crutches.

Using PP special effects s something anyone can do. Creating it on the field is demonstrating photographic skills. The difference between a good photographer and a garbage collector.


True, but some equipment is a limitation and folks can't /don't want to buy a new camera and are looking for ways to make do.

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Mar 18, 2012 15:59:16   #
senad55verizon.net Loc: Milford, NJ
 
You may be looking for good bokeh in an image that's pretty far from ideal.

First, the background doesn't go with the foreground, it actually clashes with it.

The main feature of the picture is the elves in the foreground. These need to be fully illuminated, sharp, with appropriate contrast. They need to "jump off the page".

Worry about bokeh after those corrections are made.

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Mar 18, 2012 16:15:35   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
As stated your background is too close and the other thing you may want to do is use your lense zoomed out as far as it will go. Use your largest apeture. Anyuthing to cut your depth of field so the subject is sharp and the backround is out of focus. - Dave

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Mar 18, 2012 16:24:25   #
senad55verizon.net Loc: Milford, NJ
 
Bokeh okay? Download for a better view.

(Point: There's more to bokeh than distance and f/ stop)



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Mar 18, 2012 16:27:19   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
I am out of here, this becomes idiotic.

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Mar 18, 2012 18:39:35   #
BigTomN
 
English Wolf and all...
Being of advanced years and serene contemplation, Iwill take no umbrage at your remarks.
But to the topic, I take snapshots of what I see around me and frequently must edit them afterwards.
Easy to get brokeh if you have time to adjust camera etc., but darkroom time is valuable for great catches so both are valuable.
Tom

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