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Mar 11, 2012 06:42:53   #
JJJ
 
Hi, I hope someone will be able to help me out. I am buying a new Digital camera and was looking at the Cannon mark II around 2200.00 I take alot of wildlife, and when i read the reviews people were saying it was more for landscape. I just want to make sure its right because I do not plain on buying another one for a long time!!! i just read on the forum that the cannon 7D is better for faster speeds. Could someone that takes wildlife pictures help me out!!

Thank you

JJJ

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Mar 11, 2012 07:51:31   #
donrent Loc: Punta Gorda , Fl
 
"reviews people were saying it was more for landscape."
============================================================Ya, ya know I once had a camera that would take great portrait pictures, but was terrible and could not take a decent picture of a car....

Now- you believe that don't ya ? ? :roll:

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Mar 11, 2012 09:33:25   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Go here:
http://www.dpreview.com/
Compare those bodies directly. Also be sure to compare to a couple Nikon bodies so you see the whole picture. (No pun intended)

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Mar 12, 2012 08:21:38   #
JeffT Loc: Central NY
 
I suspect that the full sized sensor on the 5D Mark II vs the cropped sensor of the 7D is at the heart of the discussion here. The 7D includes a 1.6x multiplier on a given lens due to its smaller sensor size. For wildlife pictures you can fill the frame more completely (for instance a 300mm lens on the 7D would fill the frame like a 480 mm lens on the 5D). The 5D has the advantage on the wide end (good for landscapes) since there is not crop factor involved. So to get the same frame filling on both cameras, a 7D would need to be about 18mm vs 28 mm for the 5D. Not too bad at that lens length, but if you want wider (say 20 mm on the 5D) the cost for a lens that would do 12.5 mm on the 7D goes up considerably.

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Mar 12, 2012 10:34:03   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
I think your splitting hairs! You can make any decent DSLR shoot good wildlife or good lanscape photos. I don't think any one camera make is better at shooting one or the other.

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Mar 12, 2012 11:48:02   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
JJJ wrote:
Hi, I hope someone will be able to help me out. I am buying a new Digital camera and was looking at the Cannon mark II around 2200.00 I take alot of wildlife, and when i read the reviews people were saying it was more for landscape. I just want to make sure its right because I do not plain on buying another one for a long time!!! i just read on the forum that the cannon 7D is better for faster speeds. Could someone that takes wildlife pictures help me out!!

Thank you

JJJ


The problem is that most people dont know what they are talking about. Any camera is a good camera. Its not the camera that makes the picture its the person with a brain that makes a picture. You have to decide wether you want a half frame sensor or a full frame sensor, thats all. Personally I would go with a full frame camera because you end up with a better file over all. Thats the only reason. It has nothing to do at all with the capability of a camera to make landscapes or portraits or wildlife. All cameras do the same thing, they make images.

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Mar 12, 2012 12:42:12   #
ward5311 Loc: Georgia
 
Personally I would buy a mid-level DSLR and then spend your money on good glass. Just make sure you use the same class of lense that you will eventually want to upgrade your camera to (DX or FX). I was amazed at the difference. In photography you get what you pay for. From your comment I would do more research on what is available in Nikon or Canon. Cameras lose value but lenses not as much. Also stay away from cheap lense filters.

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Mar 12, 2012 12:48:56   #
lbruck1 Loc: Logansport, IN
 
For the last 3 years I have been shooting with a Canon T1i and love it but I wanted more. As I worked on my lense collection I have been planning my next camera. For the longest time I was set on the mark II but then I started following the Canon 7D. I decided that when all is said and done , the MarK II would be my main camera (for weddings and portraits) and the 7D (for sports and wildlife) would be my backup.The T1I would be passed to my daughter. I new that it would be a few years for this to come about , so I went with the 7D as my main camera (just got it) and the T1i as backup. I love it. The 8 fps is great for my bird shots. Check out the 7D as an alternate to the Canon 5D Mark II.

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Mar 12, 2012 15:35:53   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
cjkorb wrote:
I think your splitting hairs! You can make any decent DSLR shoot good wildlife or good lanscape photos. I don't think any one camera make is better at shooting one or the other.


I disagree with this. Yes, they "can" shoot good wildlife or good landscape photos, but which one is better suited for wildlife? Definately the 7D. The crop sensor is desireable over a full frame as meantioned before, but mainly the reasons are that the 7D shoots at 8fps and has a very fast processor for superior focusing on moving subjects.

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Mar 12, 2012 17:03:08   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
Well truth is that the Canon 7D has two processor that why its fast. The Canon 5d Mk ll is a top of the line professional camera if you purchase it you can't go wrong. Read the booklet that comes with it learn it well or some after market books. this camera is great for all types of photography.




jeep_daddy wrote:
cjkorb wrote:
I think your splitting hairs! You can make any decent DSLR shoot good wildlife or good lanscape photos. I don't think any one camera make is better at shooting one or the other.


I disagree with this. Yes, they "can" shoot good wildlife or good landscape photos, but which one is better suited for wildlife? Definately the 7D. The crop sensor is desireable over a full frame as meantioned before, but mainly the reasons are that the 7D shoots at 8fps and has a very fast processor for superior focusing on moving subjects.
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Mar 12, 2012 17:41:07   #
William Bennett Loc: Il
 
I have the 7D was going to get the MarkII seeing that the 7D shoots 8 frames a sec. an the Mark does 3 frames per. I nee to keep the 7D [ I shoot Wild life,drag racing, dirt bikes an other things that go fast

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Mar 12, 2012 20:56:36   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
Get the 7D - - spend the leftover ca$h on great glass!!
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You can only use EF lenses on the 5D
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You can use EF AND EF-S lenses on the 7D - there is some VALUE there !!
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Also - with the 7D - due to it's crop sensor - you get less vignetting with your EF "L" grade lenses !! PLUS more reach!

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Mar 12, 2012 23:09:50   #
larrycumba
 
As any pro if they would rather have full frame or crop.

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Mar 12, 2012 23:37:26   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
You were told correctly - The 5D is better suited for landscape , the 7D for wildlife because of the speed (due to smaller mirror - also less vibration and noise ) and crop factor of the telephoto lenses !

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Mar 13, 2012 00:47:16   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
larrycumba wrote:
As{k} any pro if they would rather have full frame or crop.
And therein lies the rub!! As some of us are NOT pros - we can look for the best VALUE {and as previously mentioned - the 5D and 7D have different strengths that play to different needs}. We're talking USABLE bang for your buck! If you lock into a FF body - you CAN'T use lenses designed for crop sensors, whereas using the 7D you get the best of both worlds (for Canon - the EF as well as the EF-S). And certainly any of the top-tier cameras from Nikon, Canon, Pentax, etc will take photos that will max out most of our hobbyist capabilities. If I want to spend the extra bux, I will put it towards better glass. My 7D will probably be the last camera body I need. It is probably more camera than I will ever be able to master.
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My sense of the OP's question was - - what camera should I get that will stand the test of time - for the serious hobbyist. For me - that's the 7D. I don't need to get to ISO 25600, and with the dual Digic processors - I get to take 8 mistakes per second instead of only 3 :-)
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Just my $0.02 worth - and of course - opinions are like - - belly buttons - - everybody's got one :0 {and SOME have 2 }

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