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Mar 20, 2015 08:13:08   #
Robert R Loc: Indianapolis and Naples
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Definitely. Stopping before turning right on red can be dangerous because most people barely slow down. When I stop before turning, I always check my rear view mirror and hope the person behind me decides to stop. I've seen cops pull people over for making that "rolling turn."

I just remembered something my friend told me from traffic court. One guy was ticketed for driving 70 in a 55 zone. He said he didn't know how fast he was going, but it wasn't 70. "When my truck goes over 65, it starts to shake." That doesn't sound like a great defense. The judge said that even if he could somehow prove that he was going 56, it would still be a speeding offense. He took the lower charge.
Definitely. Stopping before turning right on red... (show quote)


In Florida the driver is supposed to stop for 3 seconds before turning right on red. When I do that I usually get honked at or worse.

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Mar 20, 2015 08:33:40   #
Michael Hartley Loc: Deer Capital of Georgia
 
When was the last time you seen a cop, actually 'stop', at a stop sign?

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Mar 20, 2015 09:09:08   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
Ft Myers, FL is the 'horn center' of the US I bet. Light changes and immediately somehone honks.

We was leaving my community where we have a 'bike/golf cart lane' on the right the other day and speed limit of 30 miles an hour. Wife says 'check this out' and on our right in the bike/golf lane some kid passes us with a little VW Golf.

Others are older drivers slowing down for stop signs but never coming to a halt.

We have a Lee County Sheriff patrol here and each month there are 10-15 violations within the communty.

Drivers suck in Florida

Sarge69

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Mar 20, 2015 09:20:09   #
RiverNan Loc: Eastern Pa
 
I got stopped once in Philadelphia by a cop on a bicycle...I kid you not. He was frantically blowing a whistle. Turns out I was on a one way road going the wrong way...I pleaded with him as I told him there was no one way sign on the road when I made my turn...he ticketed me anyway.
Since I did not know exactly where I was going I asked him if he could advise me as to where to park...I was a few blocks away from my destination. I parked exactly where he indicated.
as I was parallel parking he popped up and rapped on my window...HOLY WTF I was thinking.
He took the ticket from me claiming he went back and checked the road signs...turns out the one way sign had been smashed and turned making it useless as an indicator.
BEST COP EVER!!!

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Mar 20, 2015 09:21:07   #
picturesofdogs Loc: Dallas, Texas.
 
sarge69 wrote:
Ft Myers, FL is the 'horn center' of the US I bet. Light changes and immediately somehone honks.

We was leaving my community where we have a 'bike/golf cart lane' on the right the other day and speed limit of 30 miles an hour. Wife says 'check this out' and on our right in the bike/golf lane some kid passes us with a little VW Golf.

Others are older drivers slowing down for stop signs but never coming to a halt.

We have a Lee County Sheriff patrol here and each month there are 10-15 violations within the communty.

Drivers suck in Florida

Sarge69
Ft Myers, FL is the 'horn center' of the US I bet.... (show quote)


It was the golf lane, which is what he'd probably argue if caught.

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Mar 20, 2015 09:22:48   #
Robert R Loc: Indianapolis and Naples
 
sarge69 wrote:
Ft Myers, FL is the 'horn center' of the US I bet. Light changes and immediately somehone honks.

We was leaving my community where we have a 'bike/golf cart lane' on the right the other day and speed limit of 30 miles an hour. Wife says 'check this out' and on our right in the bike/golf lane some kid passes us with a little VW Golf.

Others are older drivers slowing down for stop signs but never coming to a halt.

We have a Lee County Sheriff patrol here and each month there are 10-15 violations within the communty.

Drivers suck in Florida

Sarge69
Ft Myers, FL is the 'horn center' of the US I bet.... (show quote)



Same in Naples, the horn is most important accessory on the car.

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Mar 20, 2015 09:31:47   #
alandg46 Loc: Boerne, Texas
 
Back in the 80's and early 90's when I had a Mazda RX 7, I used to get a lot of other people's tickets.Police radar doesn't know which vehicle it locks onto, it locks on the fastest and the cop has to make the call on which vehicle. The sports car was always the fastest, not the white Camry that was passing it.

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Mar 20, 2015 09:56:06   #
chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon
 
I always appreicate it when I am doing a ride-a-long and the deupty/officer pulls a bicyclist over and issues them a ticket usually for failing to obey a traffic control device (i.e. red light).

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Mar 20, 2015 10:07:49   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
I remember years ago (70's) when I got stopped for doing 45 in a 35 mph zone while on my 10 speed racing bike. I knew the cop though & didn't get a ticket... I used to sell bikes (& swimming pools in the summer) for the old E J Korvette stores ( in Maryland). Used to work in the photo center at times too & was the store photographer. Even had a district manager take me to a Falls Church Virginia store to photograph their ,at the time, state of the art camera survellience system
chapjohn wrote:
I always appreicate it when I am doing a ride-a-long and the deupty/officer pulls a bicyclist over and issues them a ticket usually for failing to obey a traffic control device (i.e. red light).

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Mar 20, 2015 10:11:18   #
coj Loc: NJ, USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Of course.


Remember the Mazda commercial mantra? Zoom Zoom Zoom?

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Mar 20, 2015 10:24:13   #
coj Loc: NJ, USA
 
chapjohn wrote:
I always appreicate it when I am doing a ride-a-long and the deupty/officer pulls a bicyclist over and issues them a ticket usually for failing to obey a traffic control device (i.e. red light).


OMG I wish that would happen around here! Living in a moderately rural area we get SOO many cyclists clogging the road, blowing through stop signs, and generally creating traffic hazards it makes me crazy. I have been so close to hitting them because of stupid things done multiple times. The worst offense is riding in packs on rural roads taking up the entire lane so vehicular traffic is prohibited. Or, one time there was a group of them sitting in my driveway taking a break (I don't really care) but they got perturbed when I told them to leave so I could get my pickup in my driveway! It just seems that there is a lack of courtesy & common sense out there. OK, no more ranting.

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Mar 20, 2015 10:31:26   #
RicknJude Loc: Quebec, Canada
 
To coj

When bikers pull on the spandex they turn into A******S.

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Mar 20, 2015 10:34:13   #
Cape Codder Loc: Cape Cod
 
Seems as if recently there was a joke here about the difference between stop and slow down.

A fellow rolled through a red light and was pulled over. The cop wrote a ticket and the driver was incensed. Said slowing down while looking was as good as a stop.

The policeman asked him to step out of his car. Then the policeman gave the driver a few hard whacks with his billy club. Then he asked the man if he would rather he stop or slow down.

Apologize in advance if I've plagiarized or stolen anyone's thunder.

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Mar 20, 2015 10:44:04   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
alandg46 wrote:
Back in the 80's and early 90's when I had a Mazda RX 7, I used to get a lot of other people's tickets.Police radar doesn't know which vehicle it locks onto, it locks on the fastest and the cop has to make the call on which vehicle. The sports car was always the fastest, not the white Camry that was passing it.


Actually that's not quite correct. The radar doesn't read the fastest vehicle, it reads the largest target. Thus, you can have the RX7 going 90, but the radar will read the semi behind it doing 65, for example. I am a retired LEO up here, and have 20 years experience using the K55 moving traffic radar.

What I expect is that different agencies have different training and rules regarding the use of the traffic radar. For instance, up here, the Alaska State Troopers (yes, that was me) require that the operator visually detect a vehicle appearing to be going in excess of the posted speed limit, then make a visual estimate of the speed, and only after that may the radar be taken out of the standby mode and an actual speed reading taken. The radar reading must be within +/- 5 mph of the visual estimate. Unfortunately, there is a lot of misunderstanding regarding traffic radar.

OTOH, there are a lot of dangerous drivers out there who blatantly disregard the rules of safe driving. Up here, red lights seem to be mere suggestions for a lot of drivers. Same for speed limits. For my part, I always think of speed in two ways: IMO, speeding involves a certain amount of careless, or reckless behavior along with excessive speed, while the other is simply driving fast. Driving fast may or may not constitute dangerous driving, depending on traffic, roadway, weather, etc., conditions and driver experience. I always gave drivers about a 10 mph "fudge factor" before pulling anyone over.

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Mar 20, 2015 11:02:54   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
chapjohn wrote:
I always appreicate it when I am doing a ride-a-long and the deupty/officer pulls a bicyclist over and issues them a ticket usually for failing to obey a traffic control device (i.e. red light).


Don't even mention bicyclists. They ignore stop signs and you better be ready to slam on your brakes. And then they tend to give you the finger or dirty looks because you say something. They are subject to motor vehicle laws the same as any car.

Sarge69

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