Follow-Up to Traffic Ticket
Mar 19, 2015 13:55:44 #
About three months ago, I posted that a man on my street got a ticket for "not stopping completely" at a Stop sign in the mall. Whether or not the sign was in the mall or on Town property is a moot point. He finally went to court, and there were lots of other people who received a ticket for the same "offense." He stopped counting at six. He plead it down to a parking violation, so he got no points on his license. He got a $75 fine plus a $25 surcharge from the State. Usually, the surcharge is $93, but for parking, it's just $25.
If you figure ten people a day times 30 days in the month, that's a lot of money rolling into the Town every month.
He was surprised at the number of people driving 60 - 70 MPH in 45 and 55 zones. Two of them did not have a driver's license. One was a 15 year old boy, and another could not speak English.
From now on, when I come to a Stop sign, I stop and count to two before driving away.
If you figure ten people a day times 30 days in the month, that's a lot of money rolling into the Town every month.
He was surprised at the number of people driving 60 - 70 MPH in 45 and 55 zones. Two of them did not have a driver's license. One was a 15 year old boy, and another could not speak English.
From now on, when I come to a Stop sign, I stop and count to two before driving away.
Mar 19, 2015 14:02:34 #
jerryc41 wrote:
About three months ago, I posted that a man on my ... (show quote)
I wait for my gps to show '0' as the speed or to feel the setback from the stop, you know when the nose comes up. BTW have you noticed how most car commercials seem to encourage bad driving, speeding , dangerous maneuvers, not letting other cars pass you, lately the line is, you got passed by a Passat! is that chamber music I hear, get out of the car
not the way to encourage safe sensible driving!
Mar 19, 2015 14:08:07 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter
Loc: Los Angeles
Many traffic rules have nothing to do with safety and everything to do with tearing money out of the burdened citizen. CA cities had a scam going with "red light" cameras where they'd reset the yellow to only a 2-second yellow, giving the motorist a choice of being ticketed or being rear-ended. A little known fact is that most of the automated tickets were issued not for running reds, but for imperfect stops before right turns. The city of Santa Monica is infamous for larcenous traffic fines. When the Los Angeles riots happened, Santa Monica still was busy issuing profitable tickets for several days before dealing with looting and violence.
Mar 19, 2015 14:25:36 #
They call rolling thru a stop sign like that a "California Stop"... At least that's what they were called in Maryland when I still lived there...
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/California_stop
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/California_stop
Mar 19, 2015 15:06:13 #
bobmcculloch wrote:
BTW have you noticed how most car commercials seem to encourage bad driving, speeding , dangerous maneuvers...
But they often have that disclaimer: "Trained driver on a closed course." That's their way out.
Mar 19, 2015 15:10:51 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
Many traffic rules have nothing to do with safety and everything to do with tearing money out of the burdened citizen.
Definitely. Stopping before turning right on red can be dangerous because most people barely slow down. When I stop before turning, I always check my rear view mirror and hope the person behind me decides to stop. I've seen cops pull people over for making that "rolling turn."
I just remembered something my friend told me from traffic court. One guy was ticketed for driving 70 in a 55 zone. He said he didn't know how fast he was going, but it wasn't 70. "When my truck goes over 65, it starts to shake." That doesn't sound like a great defense. The judge said that even if he could somehow prove that he was going 56, it would still be a speeding offense. He took the lower charge.
Mar 19, 2015 15:11:44 #
jerryc41 wrote:
But they often have that disclaimer: "Trained driver on a closed course." That's their way out.
But the average young driver or teen getting his/her license doesn't notice that , just the ZOOM ZOOM, oh that's fun,
Mar 19, 2015 16:17:24 #
Your friend had a legitimate defense but can you imagine all the crappy things a judge hears a day? I know you've listed a couple but to be a traffic judge has to be the lowest rung on the judge pole! :D
Mar 19, 2015 16:19:59 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter
Loc: Los Angeles
Some traffic judges are honest. Others are not, and think of their job as just a glorified form of tax collector or shakedown thug.
Mar 19, 2015 17:30:08 #
bobmcculloch wrote:
But the average young driver or teen getting his/her license doesn't notice that , just the ZOOM ZOOM, oh that's fun,
Of course.
Mar 20, 2015 06:32:56 #
I was caught speeding and had the choice of a fine and points on my licence or attending a Speed Awareness Course.
This took four and a half hours and I am now more careful.
This took four and a half hours and I am now more careful.
Mar 20, 2015 06:50:09 #
viscountdriver wrote:
I was caught speeding and had the choice of a fine and points on my licence or attending a Speed Awareness Course.
This took four and a half hours and I am now more careful.
This took four and a half hours and I am now more careful.
Good deal.
Mar 20, 2015 07:14:31 #
Florida2117
Loc: Melbourne, FL
I teach the stop, look, and listen rule that is taught about crossing a street. Too many these days dont even look when crossing the street, but thats another story.
STOP Come to a COMPLETE stop.
LOOK Look both ways.
LISTEN listen for sirens (emergency vehicles).
STOP Come to a COMPLETE stop.
LOOK Look both ways.
LISTEN listen for sirens (emergency vehicles).
Mar 20, 2015 08:00:22 #
Florida2117 wrote:
I teach the stop, look, and listen rule that is taught about crossing a street. Too many these days dont even look when crossing the street, but thats another story.
STOP Come to a COMPLETE stop.
LOOK Look both ways.
STOP Come to a COMPLETE stop.
LOOK Look both ways.
Pedestrians with cell phones are dangerous!
Mar 20, 2015 08:12:22 #
viscountdriver wrote:
I was caught speeding and had the choice of a fine and points on my licence or attending a Speed Awareness Course.
This took four and a half hours and I am now more careful.
This took four and a half hours and I am now more careful.
We take that class every 3 years, get a discount on the auto insurance.
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