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Mar 18, 2015 09:12:54   #
studavis
 
Every one has a camera that they like and recommend. But, what do you want? Go to a store and handle the cameras and find what fits you.

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Mar 18, 2015 09:48:30   #
Leon S Loc: Minnesota
 
Aunt Wawa wrote:
it is for the Pittsburgh Art Institute - Associate Degree in Digital Photography.
That's what I know for now, until I talk to her later.


I talked to a young gal who signed up for a photo course from a private school. Upon graduation, she had a nice diploma and a $60,000 school loan to pay. She was working at a respected camera store and learning more there than she did at the school. She could have gotten the same education or better from one of the local vocational or two year colleges for a lot less. She has no idea now how she will be able to pay off her loan working at a store. Not my words, they were hers. As far as a camera is concerned, she can find a Nikon d200 and a 50mm lens for about three hundred.

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Mar 18, 2015 10:18:07   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Touche!



bsprague wrote:
With humility, I beg your forgiveness. My excuse it that I've become a mirrorless addict. It is the "SLR" part of the requirement that I object to. Not, the lens part. I've gotten used to not having noisy mirrors flapping around!

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Mar 18, 2015 10:34:40   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 
I went through this a few years ago with my niece. Check to see if the school uses a particular brand of camera/lenses because students can sometimes borrow stuff to use for assignments!

As I'm Nikon guy I recommended that brand, which her parents bought her. After she went to school she found out they use Canon and can borrow cameras/lenses.

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Mar 18, 2015 11:00:32   #
Don Fischer Loc: Antelope, Ore
 
A Canon Rebel huh? Like this? B&H used section-refurbished.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1123880-REF/canon_9126b029_eos_dig_rebel_t5.html

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Mar 18, 2015 12:01:16   #
Bill gomberg
 
AMEN !

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Mar 18, 2015 12:05:49   #
Bill gomberg
 
Wise advice .

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Mar 18, 2015 12:23:42   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
SteveR wrote:
Aunt Wawa...If your niece is enrolled in a degree in digital photography she will definitely need a decent dslr. I would suggest having her call B&H Photo. If she is going to be using this camera in future classes, I would suggest that she purchase the Nikon D7000, which is available from them for $429, body only. A 50mm f1.8D lens would run app. $130. The two purchases should keep you within budget and would be a good combination with which to start. Note...do not get the 50mm f1.8G lens which will cost double and is not necessary for the D7000. The only real difference is that the G has a motor in the lens for focusing which is not needed on the D7000.

Note: The D7000 is not the latest release from Nikon, but was released about four years ago and is an excellent camera. It was $1100 new when first released. I have one and was amazed by the photos it took right out of the box. She'll like it.
Aunt Wawa...If your niece is enrolled in a degree ... (show quote)


IMHO the D5100 is a far superior choice for a student. It takes the same quality images as the D7000 but is about half the price and has extra features such as the articulated screen and light weight that make it a better choice IMHO.

The are several legit reasons one might choose a D7000 over a D5100 but they don't apply here. They are:
1. You have a bunch of old Nikon lenses that need the focusing motor in the body.
2. You are really going to shoot in the rain or blowing dust and need the additional weatherproofing.
3. You are a very advanced flash photographer and need to flash Command mode.
Otherwise the D5100 is a better choice. Many are available used and refurbished. In fact, I'm about to list one for sale, with lens, for under $300.

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Mar 18, 2015 12:25:37   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Don Fischer wrote:
A Canon Rebel huh? Like this? B&H used section-refurbished.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1123880-REF/canon_9126b029_eos_dig_rebel_t5.html


That appears to be an excellent choice!

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Mar 18, 2015 12:31:04   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
I would still like to know what is in the school's offered $600 package. If the course requires an "interchangeable lens system" I kind of think the package must have more than one lens. Otherwise what's the point of the requirement?
Maybe it is a t5i and two L lenses, in which case it is a great deal! But probably not.

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Mar 18, 2015 13:19:08   #
ralphc4176 Loc: Conyers, GA
 
For $599, you can get a Canon EOS Rebel T3i with an EF-S 18-55 mm IS Lens. It's a kit lens, but it's a place to start. Camera included a built-in flash but has a hot shoe for mounting a Canon flash with E-TTL control. For a little more money ($698), you can get a Sony a6000 mirrorless camera with a 16-50 mm lens. It also has a built-in flash and a hot shoe. For a little less money, you can get a Sony a58 DSLR with an 18-55 mm lens for $448. The a58 also includes a built-in flash and a hot shoe. The a58 is not truly mirrorless but functions like one. I bought my daughter a Canon T3i, and she likes it very much. I bought myself a Sony a58 for "cheap" shooting, and I like it very much for all but the most critical photography. All listed prices are from B&H (www.bhphotovideo.com). There are other places to get good prices and good service, but I have only ever used B&H for new stuff.

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Mar 18, 2015 13:22:38   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Aunt Wawa wrote:
Not sure if I'm putting this in the right section, but I only have a few minutes to post.
My niece is beginning a photography course and has to upgrade to a new camera.

Her words - So I'm gonna have to get a new camera for my classes. A Digital SLR camera with an interchangeable lens system, 8 megapixel minimum, and a RAW file setting. My current camera is perfect for the job, except I can't change lenses.

The school has a camera kit that she can purchase for $600 but if she can go cheaper, that would always be nice.

Any suggestions for her?

If so, thanks so much and you all have a great day!
Not sure if I'm putting this in the right section,... (show quote)


Is your first name Bawbwa, and didn't you appear on SNL?

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Mar 18, 2015 13:27:24   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
boberic wrote:
Is your first name Bawbwa, and didn't you appear on SNL?


I miss Gilda :cry:

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Mar 18, 2015 13:43:32   #
alliebess Loc: suburban Philadelphia
 
robertjerl wrote:
I just looked that school up, does not appear to be a good idea.
They seem to be a for profit diploma mill. And over priced to boot. Several ratings and reviews of unhappy customers, esp when it comes to required gear and software expenses.
Better to take photography at a community college or other state/public school associated institute. At least here in California were have a state controled and regulated system of 2 year community colleges. Does Pennsylvania have a similar system?

Yes, PA has community colleges. There are also adult classes offered in local high schools, at least in several school districts near my home.

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Mar 18, 2015 14:17:13   #
Don Fischer Loc: Antelope, Ore
 
MtnMan wrote:
IMHO the D5100 is a far superior choice for a student. It takes the same quality images as the D7000 but is about half the price and has extra features such as the articulated screen and light weight that make it a better choice IMHO.

The are several legit reasons one might choose a D7000 over a D5100 but they don't apply here. They are:
1. You have a bunch of old Nikon lenses that need the focusing motor in the body.
2. You are really going to shoot in the rain or blowing dust and need the additional weatherproofing.
3. You are a very advanced flash photographer and need to flash Command mode.
Otherwise the D5100 is a better choice. Many are available used and refurbished. In fact, I'm about to list one for sale, with lens, for under $300.
IMHO the D5100 is a far superior choice for a stud... (show quote)


I was going through my new D7000 last night and found it does have a command mode. My old D70 also has it. I bought two SB 600 flash's. they work very well but I seldom use them!

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