Pet peeve. It's not pronouced "off ten."
Mar 3, 2015 19:58:36 #
It's "offen." I hear "off ten" on tv every time it's said. Don't English teachers, writers, editors, and directors of today know the correct pronunciation?
Mar 3, 2015 20:01:53 #
Mar 3, 2015 20:03:58 #
the_seadog
Loc: Rhode Island
From dictionary.com
"Often was pronounced with a t -sound until the 17th century, when a pronunciation without the [t] came to predominate in the speech of the educated, in both North America and Great Britain, and the earlier pronunciation fell into disfavor. Common use of a spelling pronunciation has since restored the [t] for many speakers, and today [aw-fuh n] and [awf-tuh n] or [of-uh n] and [of-tuh n] ] exist side by side. Although it is still sometimes criticized, often with a [t] is now so widely heard from educated speakers that it has become fully standard once again.
"Often was pronounced with a t -sound until the 17th century, when a pronunciation without the [t] came to predominate in the speech of the educated, in both North America and Great Britain, and the earlier pronunciation fell into disfavor. Common use of a spelling pronunciation has since restored the [t] for many speakers, and today [aw-fuh n] and [awf-tuh n] or [of-uh n] and [of-tuh n] ] exist side by side. Although it is still sometimes criticized, often with a [t] is now so widely heard from educated speakers that it has become fully standard once again.
Mar 3, 2015 20:05:36 #
Mar 3, 2015 20:09:42 #
willowpix wrote:
And if you listen for it, you will hear it, rather than here... sorry, couldn't help it.
Laf
Mar 3, 2015 20:15:03 #
Mar 3, 2015 20:15:11 #
willowpix wrote:
And if you listen for it, you will hear it, rather than here... sorry, couldn't help it.
Here, here !!! lol
Mar 3, 2015 20:17:33 #
the_seadog wrote:
From dictionary.com br br "Often was pronoun... (show quote)
"Offen" was taught throughout the school systems in the 50's and 60's. I consider it a sign of poor up-bringing, such as when I hear somebody pronounce the state "Illinoise." Do you have anything to backup your thesis that "off ten" is now acceptable English other than the fact that it is hear "offen?"
If, indeed, "off ten," is now acceptable, I would see that as indicative of the general decline in the use of our language.
Mar 3, 2015 20:18:57 #
DaveO wrote:
Ba-tween, bee-tween...
That's right ba-hynd Nu-Yawk....right?? :roll:
Mar 3, 2015 20:20:29 #
This is almost as much fun as watching two dogs on a rainy night, if you know what I mean! :XD: :lol:
Mar 3, 2015 20:20:47 #
TucsonCoyote wrote:
That's right ba-hynd Nu-Yawk....right?? :roll:
I don't care what the heck accent they use as long as they don't pronounce the silent letters!!
Mar 3, 2015 20:21:40 #
TucsonCoyote wrote:
That's right ba-hynd Nu-Yawk....right?? :roll:
Right next to Joysey! :lol:
Mar 3, 2015 20:23:26 #
Mar 3, 2015 20:25:00 #
DaveO wrote:
This is almost as much fun as watching two dogs on a rainy night, if you know what I mean! :XD: :lol:
Oh, heck, Dave.....let's ratch it up a notch. The Jews conspiracy to take down the twin towers on 9/11 is indicative among their other hijinks of just how offten they will attempt to subject their will upon other nations to rule the world.
I thought you might be missing LP by now.
Mar 3, 2015 20:26:04 #
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