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Mar 2, 2012 00:32:16   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
PhotoMan1929 wrote:
rjb0765 wrote:
I am currently shooting a Nikon D3100 with a af-s 200 lens. I use paint shop pro 4x and aftershot for processing. My heart is in lanscape and wildlife photos so I find myself really pushing that little 200 mm lens to get me photos its not really meant to get. So i end up trying to blow them up for detail in paint shop and wind up with photo degredation. I can have a crystal clear shot of an eagle feeding as a 5x7 but when i try to make it grow i get noise. oh, by the way I view my pics on my tv, a visio 32 inch hi def. that may be part of the problem too. A 5x7 or 8x10 may always look noisy when it fills a 32 inch screen? I don't know. On the other hand I get some really great shots if conditions are right and i can get closer. Sorry about the blah blah....what I'd like is some advice on a great quality lens in the 500 to 600 mm range with auto focus that will work with my nikon (only because i've read that the manual focus on those is very tough to deal with) and some opinions as to whether i'm causing myself trouble by using my tv as a monitor. thanks to all. There is such a curve to this stuff i can use all the help i can get.
I am currently shooting a Nikon D3100 with a af-s ... (show quote)


Unfortunately, you do not give enough information for anyone to make a definitive recommendation. So I will make an assumption that your working distance will be 200 yards (600 feet). In that case, a Nikon 500 mm lens will give you a field of view of about 19 x 28 feet. If you add a Nikon 2.0 teleconverter, your field of view will be about 9 x 14 feet.

As for landscape lenses, there is a "newbie notion" that only a wide angle lens should be used. It is typical of newcomers that they usually want to include the whole world in their landscape shots. A wide angle lens will make a mountain range look like a row of low hills. There is no one "best" lens for landscape work. It all depends upon the scene and the image the photographer wants.
quote=rjb0765 I am currently shooting a Nikon D31... (show quote)


Do teleconverters degrade the sharpness of the picture? And for a non-related question, what is exif?

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Mar 2, 2012 08:10:33   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
planepics wrote:
PhotoMan1929 wrote:
rjb0765 wrote:
I am currently shooting a Nikon D3100 with a af-s 200 lens. I use paint shop pro 4x and aftershot for processing. My heart is in lanscape and wildlife photos so I find myself really pushing that little 200 mm lens to get me photos its not really meant to get. So i end up trying to blow them up for detail in paint shop and wind up with photo degredation. I can have a crystal clear shot of an eagle feeding as a 5x7 but when i try to make it grow i get noise. oh, by the way I view my pics on my tv, a visio 32 inch hi def. that may be part of the problem too. A 5x7 or 8x10 may always look noisy when it fills a 32 inch screen? I don't know. On the other hand I get some really great shots if conditions are right and i can get closer. Sorry about the blah blah....what I'd like is some advice on a great quality lens in the 500 to 600 mm range with auto focus that will work with my nikon (only because i've read that the manual focus on those is very tough to deal with) and some opinions as to whether i'm causing myself trouble by using my tv as a monitor. thanks to all. There is such a curve to this stuff i can use all the help i can get.
I am currently shooting a Nikon D3100 with a af-s ... (show quote)


Unfortunately, you do not give enough information for anyone to make a definitive recommendation. So I will make an assumption that your working distance will be 200 yards (600 feet). In that case, a Nikon 500 mm lens will give you a field of view of about 19 x 28 feet. If you add a Nikon 2.0 teleconverter, your field of view will be about 9 x 14 feet.

As for landscape lenses, there is a "newbie notion" that only a wide angle lens should be used. It is typical of newcomers that they usually want to include the whole world in their landscape shots. A wide angle lens will make a mountain range look like a row of low hills. There is no one "best" lens for landscape work. It all depends upon the scene and the image the photographer wants.
quote=rjb0765 I am currently shooting a Nikon D31... (show quote)


Do teleconverters degrade the sharpness of the picture? And for a non-related question, what is exif?
quote=PhotoMan1929 quote=rjb0765 I am currently ... (show quote)


When you use a convertor you're adding glass. Anytime you add glass, and even if it's a quality glass you are changing the light entering your camera. You will have to compensate with your exposure settings for an acceptable exposure. Quality glass should not degrade the sharpness.

Exif = Short for Exchangeable Image File, a format that is a standard for storing interchange information in digital photography image files using JPEG compression

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Mar 2, 2012 10:25:24   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
Rabbit wrote:
planepics wrote:
PhotoMan1929 wrote:
rjb0765 wrote:
I am currently shooting a Nikon D3100 with a af-s 200 lens. I use paint shop pro 4x and aftershot for processing. My heart is in lanscape and wildlife photos so I find myself really pushing that little 200 mm lens to get me photos its not really meant to get. So i end up trying to blow them up for detail in paint shop and wind up with photo degredation. I can have a crystal clear shot of an eagle feeding as a 5x7 but when i try to make it grow i get noise. oh, by the way I view my pics on my tv, a visio 32 inch hi def. that may be part of the problem too. A 5x7 or 8x10 may always look noisy when it fills a 32 inch screen? I don't know. On the other hand I get some really great shots if conditions are right and i can get closer. Sorry about the blah blah....what I'd like is some advice on a great quality lens in the 500 to 600 mm range with auto focus that will work with my nikon (only because i've read that the manual focus on those is very tough to deal with) and some opinions as to whether i'm causing myself trouble by using my tv as a monitor. thanks to all. There is such a curve to this stuff i can use all the help i can get.
I am currently shooting a Nikon D3100 with a af-s ... (show quote)


Unfortunately, you do not give enough information for anyone to make a definitive recommendation. So I will make an assumption that your working distance will be 200 yards (600 feet). In that case, a Nikon 500 mm lens will give you a field of view of about 19 x 28 feet. If you add a Nikon 2.0 teleconverter, your field of view will be about 9 x 14 feet.

As for landscape lenses, there is a "newbie notion" that only a wide angle lens should be used. It is typical of newcomers that they usually want to include the whole world in their landscape shots. A wide angle lens will make a mountain range look like a row of low hills. There is no one "best" lens for landscape work. It all depends upon the scene and the image the photographer wants.
quote=rjb0765 I am currently shooting a Nikon D31... (show quote)


Do teleconverters degrade the sharpness of the picture? And for a non-related question, what is exif?
quote=PhotoMan1929 quote=rjb0765 I am currently ... (show quote)


When you use a convertor you're adding glass. Anytime you add glass, and even if it's a quality glass you are changing the light entering your camera. You will have to compensate with your exposure settings for an acceptable exposure. Quality glass should not degrade the sharpness.

Exif = Short for Exchangeable Image File, a format that is a standard for storing interchange information in digital photography image files using JPEG compression
quote=planepics quote=PhotoMan1929 quote=rjb076... (show quote)


Thanks for the info.

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Mar 2, 2012 18:24:10   #
fishone0 Loc: Kingman AZ
 
as far as I know it will not degrade the image but you will lose stops of light.

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Mar 2, 2012 19:16:48   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
fishone0 wrote:
as far as I know it will not degrade the image but you will lose stops of light.


I strongly disagree. Whenever you add glass that magnifies you're changing the original formula.

Common sense tells me that something gonna suffer.

Here's what The Digital Photography School has to say about this topic and we're going with Canon glass, not aftermarket.

Image Degradation – Extenders multiply not only the focal length but also any aberrations of the lens you pair it with. As a result you’ll notice on many lenses that image quality suffers – I’m told this is particularly the case with longer extenders (x2) where sharpness and contrast suffer – particularly when shooting into light (where flare and ghosting can be a problem). Using the best quality lens possible will help keep such degradation to a minimum.

You can read the entire article here

http://www.digital-photography-school.com/the-pros-and-cons-of-using-tele-converters-extenders-on-your-dslr

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