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Feb 19, 2012 07:06:41   #
noknees438 Loc: NYC
 
Here’s a problem I don’t see posted and was wondering how many others have this problem. I am color blind, not terribly and not with primary colors but more so with subtle earth tones (I may see an earthy brown as an off-color green). Anyway, when I take a shot I’ll run it through PP with GIMP/Paint etc. and do an “auto-level”. When I get the result, I usually think the result is awful and revert back to the original shot, but is my assessment accurate because of my “impairment”? It only gets even more extreme if you venture into “tone-mapping”; one could easily go off the rails big time. This is only relevant, for example, if I were submitting for a contest and I produced something that I was happy with but the rest of the normal-sighted world hated. Any others have this issue and what do you do, if anything?

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Feb 19, 2012 07:21:42   #
Erv Loc: Medina Ohio
 
I am not real bad yet. I do see some colors ok just like you. But if it is an important picture I always go to the wife and ask. She lets me know what I have to fix. She just smiles and says I better get a new hobby :-D I am on some other sites, and the folks there help out a lot. And i am sure folks here would do the same.
Erv

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Feb 19, 2012 08:01:08   #
Old Timer Loc: Greenfield, In.
 
A lot of men have trouble on shades and tonal value. I do on pink and orange, and some blue and blue-green. In your earth tones there is a lot of yellow in the sienna, if you mix blue with them you get green. Same with your yellows, some have more red than others. I studied color theory some and you can understand some of problems and compensate by sqinting your eyes and some time helps. As I understand it your eyes process the reflection of light and we are not all same in the process.

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Feb 19, 2012 08:58:13   #
naturalite Loc: Up state NY
 
Yup...red and green deficient....me too. It never is a problem when I shoot B&W.

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Feb 19, 2012 10:02:58   #
TNmike Loc: NW TN
 
Yep! I've got the same issue. Always have to have the wife check the colors for me. I didn't even know I had a problem until my mid 20's. In grade school I always wondered why some kids needed the box of 100 crayons, the box with 10 was just fine for me. :-D

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Feb 19, 2012 10:15:56   #
modest genius Loc: joshua tree park CA
 
What an interesting question. I know there have been legally blind photographers. Black and white seems a great answer. I wonder if any two humans see exactly the same colours? Or is vision as unique as fingerprints? Do we all see black and white the same? What did you do pre digital? When correctional systems are designed what cardinal base is decided? And by whom? Oh Dear! its Sunday morning and have racing brain syndrome again. Better get out there with my camera and figger out f-stops, apertures and all that other stuff to make it go away! quote=noknees438]Here’s a problem I don’t see posted and was wondering how many others have this problem. I am color blind, not terribly and not with primary colors but more so with subtle earth tones (I may see an earthy brown as an off-color green). Anyway, when I take a shot I’ll run it through PP with GIMP/Paint etc. and do an “auto-level”. When I get the result, I usually think the result is awful and revert back to the original shot, but is my assessment accurate because of my “impairment”? It only gets even more extreme if you venture into “tone-mapping”; one could easily go off the rails big time. This is only relevant, for example, if I were submitting for a contest and I produced something that I was happy with but the rest of the normal-sighted world hated. Any others have this issue and what do you do, if anything?[/quote]

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Feb 19, 2012 10:40:47   #
TNmike Loc: NW TN
 
If you Google there are several different color blind charts on the internet. Here is a link to one of them. I'm red/green color blind. Mike


http://www.toledo-bend.com/colorblind/Ishihara.asp

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Feb 19, 2012 10:51:05   #
noknees438 Loc: NYC
 
Yeah, I'm red-green also thanks to the chart TNMike supplied, thanks (I think...lol)

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Feb 19, 2012 11:14:35   #
normanhall Loc: Leslie Missouri
 
Erv wrote:
I am not real bad yet. I do see some colors ok just like you. But if it is an important picture I always go to the wife and ask. She lets me know what I have to fix. She just smiles and says I better get a new hobby :-D I am on some other sites, and the folks there help out a lot. And i am sure folks here would do the same.
Erv


I am also color blind. subtle changes in color are hard for me to see.

I too have to ask my wife Lisa for help with color. under proof setup in photoshop cs5 they have away to set for colorblindness but not sure if they will help me or not. And not really sure what they are for as of yet.

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Feb 19, 2012 11:22:45   #
MsJ Loc: Northern Indiana
 
soounds to me as if you are all men...I'm a woman and it's very unusual...but I, too, cannot see all colors accurately. I went into a jewelry
store once an told them I loved the shade of blue the used for the display. When I left the store a friend who was with me said, you know that blue display you loved? It was purple! No wonder they both looked at me as if I were crazy. So...it's definitely shades of pink and red that I seem to leave out of some colors. If my kids like my photos, they are fine with me. I just do what feels good to me and that's all I can do.

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Feb 19, 2012 11:22:47   #
normanhall Loc: Leslie Missouri
 
TNmike wrote:
If you Google there are several different color blind charts on the internet. Here is a link to one of them. I'm red/green color blind. Mike


http://www.toledo-bend.com/colorblind/Ishihara.asp


I took the test and i am red/green colorblind. the actual name for this red/green color blindness is protanopia.

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Feb 19, 2012 11:55:12   #
normanhall Loc: Leslie Missouri
 
jaedmund wrote:
soounds to me as if you are all men...I'm a woman and it's very unusual...but I, too, cannot see all colors accurately. I went into a jewelry
store once an told them I loved the shade of blue the used for the display. When I left the store a friend who was with me said, you know that blue display you loved? It was purple! No wonder they both looked at me as if I were crazy. So...it's definitely shades of pink and red that I seem to leave out of some colors. If my kids like my photos, they are fine with me. I just do what feels good to me and that's all I can do.
soounds to me as if you are all men...I'm a woman ... (show quote)


it is unusual for a women to be colorblind. what i usually do in pp is use the auto settings to get close and then make tweaks to what i like and then get lisa to look at it and tell me where i have turned someone red or green. lol

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Feb 20, 2012 05:56:16   #
hj Loc: Florida
 
Well, I can't help with your handling of colors as a photographer, but Just a comment here. I used to say "I am color blind" and someone corrected me to say that I am not color blind, I am color deficient. Makes sense, as I only have tonal problems with some colors. I once wore a pair of slacks for weeks that I thought were beige until my wife said "no they are light green" :-)

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Feb 20, 2012 07:35:02   #
rthurlow
 
Before digital I had a local lab that did my color and was happy. Digital opened a new can of worms, I'm lucky my wife hasn't murdered me. I also am a retired printer, but getting the color to match a customers swatch was not a problem because the color I see may be wrong but the color on the press also looked the same.

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Feb 20, 2012 07:59:16   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
I am shade blind (Pinks, Purples, etc.) and never knew it before going into the Army in 1964. I wanted to be in the Nuclear, Biological and Chemical division of the service but being shade blind ruled me out, instead they put me in the map reproduction division working behind a huge camera that took poster size negatives (don't figure). Anyway my wife helps me out with color.

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