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Nov 21, 2014 10:29:56   #
raferrelljr Loc: CHARLOTTE, NC
 
Mark7829 wrote:
You will likely enjoy the 36 MP of the D810. It is a significant difference over the 24 MP of the D750 and D610. The processor and low light capabilities of the D810 exceed that of the D610. The buffer in the D810 is better as well and you can take a great number of images in burst mode. Again what I like with 36 MP is that I can crop significantly (finding the picture within the picture) and still able to create a very large print. The sensor is incredible. You can now add full frame lenses to compliment the camera. The movie mode of the D810 is at 60 fps at hi res. The D610 can't touch. There are many more differences between the D810 and D610. The D750 is excellent but the 36 MP is really worth the big bucks for landscape.

To help you make a choice - I have added the shot below from a D810, Nikon 16-37 f/4, Lee 6-stop ND, in the pacific ocean about two weeks ago.
You will likely enjoy the 36 MP of the D810. It i... (show quote)


Great shot, Mike. Don't get me wrong, I would love to get the 810, just don't know if I deserve it. Thanks.

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Nov 21, 2014 10:31:30   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Saleavitt10 wrote:
I am saving my pennies for a full frame camera. Currently using a D7100 mostly with the Tamron 150-600 for general wildlife with the emphasis on birds. Happy with this set up but want to add a full frame to my bag.

I know I will need new glass since all I have is DX except for the Tamron. What gets the nod between the 610 (great price right now), the 750 and the 810. Looking for good low light/low noise combo. I think the new rig will be mostly for landscapes. What first lens would you recommend to go with the camera?

Thanks for any and all thoughts!
I am saving my pennies for a full frame camera. C... (show quote)


I have a D800. If I were doing it now I'd get the D750 because it is lighter, has a tilt screen, and has better options for remote triggering.

I'd never get another D8xx because it has a threaded connector for remote release that totally sucks...you can't work it because your fingers get jammed against the camera body when you try. I really like the infrared release for my D5100 but they don't include it on the D8xx. Not sure about the D750 on infrared but it has other good choices.

Your DX lenses will work with all of them. All have a DX mode and some of your lenses will work in full FX mode over a limited range of zoom. The D8xx also has two intermediate picture area choices that work over a wider range of zoom. The other choices maybe one alternative.

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Nov 21, 2014 10:33:04   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
BboH wrote:
"...mostly landscapes..." consider the 28-300.


While the 28-300 is a great lens for all around purposes it isn't super sharp as a landscape lens. The 16-35 is MUCH sharper and now also comes with VR. I own both.

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Nov 21, 2014 10:34:42   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Saleavitt10 wrote:
Thanks David. I do plan on keeping the D7100. It is a wonderful camera and I have gotten some very nice photos with it.


It is better for your wildlife shots. It gives you 24MP on the DX area. The FX choices give you about 16 (D8xx) or about 10 (other two) MP on the DX area...which I use frequently for wildlife.

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Nov 21, 2014 10:37:03   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
raferrelljr wrote:
Great shot, Mike. Don't get me wrong, I would love to get the 810, just don't know if I deserve it. Thanks.


You obviously enjoy photography, and practice to improve your skill sets. The additional capabilities of any of the newer full frame camera will just flame the passion even more. Good luck.

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Nov 21, 2014 10:40:46   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
MT Shooter wrote:
One other advantage to the D610 is that its controls are virtually identical to the D7100 so there will be no learning curve at all, it will feel like an old friend the moment you take it out of the box.
Good luck.


I'm not sure that's an advantage. I hated the controls on the D7000. The ones on the D800 are much easier for me to use.

I actually much preferred the control approach on my D5100 where the INFO screed is active. I had set the function key to ISO so could do most of what I needed looking through the viewfinder with P or A mode and just pressing the function key for ISO.

But the buttons on the D7000 were a pain because my fingers didn't know where they were and I often couldn't read the info on the little green screen without reading glasses. The D800 solves the latter a bit by enabling an option so the on switch lights up the LCD with the info on the unreadable green screen...I didn't find that when I had the D7000 so don't know if it is there. I also had a problem with the front wheel of sometimes turning off the camera so found it more of a liability than a help. Yes, not doubt a real fumble-fingers. After a couple of years with the D800 they are finally learning the buttons and wheel, though.

Since you are happy with your D7100 this isn't an issue for you.

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Nov 21, 2014 11:10:01   #
RKL349 Loc: Connecticut
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Unless you decide to go shooting sports then the D610 is probably the very best buy in a full frame camera on the market today. For your landscapes and portraiture it is superb and will give fantastic 24x36 prints. It is also one of the highest rated low noise,high ISO cameras on the matket.
Use it and the Nikon 16-35mm F4 lens and your landscapes will impress regularly.
And if you want to do wildlife the D7100 will always be close by I am sure. One other advantage to the D610 is that its controls are virtually identical to the D7100 so there will be no learning curve at all, it will feel like an old friend the moment you take it out of the box.
Good luck.
Unless you decide to go shooting sports then the D... (show quote)


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Nov 21, 2014 12:08:32   #
Joecosentino Loc: Whitesboro, New York
 
I now have 2 610's Shot with great results, I watch people at workshops with 800's say hey look at this I can crop in and get 2 or 3 photos out of this one, so they then end up with 3, 12 mp photos.

I can see where an 800 would be useful but you need to use all the resolution

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Nov 21, 2014 13:30:13   #
Db7423 Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
MtnMan wrote:
While the 28-300 is a great lens for all around purposes it isn't super sharp as a landscape lens. The 16-35 is MUCH sharper and now also comes with VR. I own both.


Right on, MtnMan. I too own both and agree with your analysis. ;)

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Nov 21, 2014 13:56:50   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
mikeroetex wrote:
Maybe for Christmas?? I currently shoot a D7100, but the buffer fills so quick that I get off one burst and wait. I understand the 610 is similar, but maybe better in low light because of FX?

Maybe next year a used D3s comes into the budget (lenses too)!


I ran some tests about the buffer. Discovered with the superfast sdcards, the buffer does fill up, but since it is also dumping to the sdcard at the same time, I can get 7-8 shots in a fast burst. And that is on my D7000 set up to make duplicate cards for backup. I was using two Sandisk Extreme Pro with a nominal write speed of 95mbs, read speed is slightly slower--but who cares.

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Nov 21, 2014 13:58:39   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Reinaldokool wrote:
nominal write speed of 95mbs, read speed is slightly slower--but who cares.


"Read" speed of any card is always 30% to 50% faster than the same cards write speed. That is why all cards are advertised at their maximum READ speed.

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Nov 21, 2014 14:04:48   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
Reinaldokool wrote:
I ran some tests about the buffer. Discovered with the superfast sdcards, the buffer does fill up, but since it is also dumping to the sdcard at the same time, I can get 7-8 shots in a fast burst. And that is on my D7000 set up to make duplicate cards for backup. I was using two Sandisk Extreme Pro with a nominal write speed of 95mbs, read speed is slightly slower--but who cares.


I can motor thru 7-8 shots and about 2 fps thereafter if I turn everything off and shoot jpeg on crop mode. Would much prefer being able to fire a sequence of 15-20 RAW shots for baseball or night football and such, but that would require D4s, which I can't afford yet. :?

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Nov 21, 2014 16:27:12   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Saleavitt10 wrote:
I am saving my pennies for a full frame camera. Currently using a D7100 mostly with the Tamron 150-600 for general wildlife with the emphasis on birds. Happy with this set up but want to add a full frame to my bag.

I know I will need new glass since all I have is DX except for the Tamron. What gets the nod between the 610 (great price right now), the 750 and the 810. Looking for good low light/low noise combo. I think the new rig will be mostly for landscapes. What first lens would you recommend to go with the camera?

Thanks for any and all thoughts!
I am saving my pennies for a full frame camera. C... (show quote)


Camera wise I would go for the D-810. Although not much different than the D-800E it is far quieter and has a few other nice features.

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Nov 21, 2014 18:27:39   #
dggeiser Loc: Pittsboro, NC
 
Saleavitt10 wrote:
I am saving my pennies for a full frame camera. Currently using a D7100 mostly with the Tamron 150-600 for general wildlife with the emphasis on birds. Happy with this set up but want to add a full frame to my bag.

I know I will need new glass since all I have is DX except for the Tamron. What gets the nod between the 610 (great price right now), the 750 and the 810. Looking for good low light/low noise combo. I think the new rig will be mostly for landscapes. What first lens would you recommend to go with the camera?

Thanks for any and all thoughts!
I am saving my pennies for a full frame camera. C... (show quote)


I have a D7000 and loved the camera but wanted to get to a full frame. I have the 18-300mm DX and a 35mm 1.8G ED lens. Well, I got GAS and purchased the D750. Reason FF, low light, and low noise. The DX lens works well on the D750 as it has the option to chose the image area ( FX, 1.2x , or DX). So my DX lens will hang around for a while as I save up to upgrade the lens. I take mainly slow sports pictures like running, triathlons, etc.

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Nov 21, 2014 18:32:19   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
raferrelljr wrote:
Great shot, Mike. Don't get me wrong, I would love to get the 810, just don't know if I deserve it. Thanks.


Of course you deserve the 810--we all do.

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