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Nov 12, 2014 15:02:38   #
Zone-System-Grandpa Loc: Springfield, Ohio
 
Shutter Bugger wrote:
I noticed the poor syntax in your first post. Did it take you "all night long last night and throughout this day" to compose that?

Dont bother answering, the question is rhetorical.

I said it before and I'm saying it again, you need to try psychotherapy
instead of retail therapy.

142... lol

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You might want to check the timing on that racecar of yours because the last lap you had taken in it had sounded like it was a wee bit retarded !

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Nov 12, 2014 15:10:56   #
Shutter Bugger
 
Zone-System-Grandpa wrote:
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And you are the one who had talked about syntax :lol:


You cant see an analogy in "perspective of the lowest common denominator". That's your inability, not mine.

The syntax of what I wrote is ok.

You are a drowning man clutching at, in this case, a non existent straw.

The smoke screen you have tried to create is not working bud.

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Nov 12, 2014 15:13:04   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Zone-System-Grandpa wrote:
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Most all of our Western Mountain States are inhabited either by wealthy ranchers or others who are in a service related industry making little money.. If you are unable to convince those wealthy land owners in your neck of the woods to part with their money, why is it that you are directing your poverty stricken situation upon an old man who resides 1800 miles from you here in Ohio ?

My wife and I together tithe at our church and we also give money to our local charities, especially, the Salvation Army and any and all good clothing that can be taken as being new, as well as hard goods, including canned foods too, is always given to our local nearly new shops that sell to those who eke out a living at a low income level. The canned goods and boxed food products we purchase and they are collected by a local charity that serves to the homeless.. Each year during Thanksgiving Day and on Christmas Day, not only do we purchase meats and cheeses for the needy, but we also assist with cooking and serving the needy in our church basement during those two most important holidays..

Both my wife and I worked all of our lives whereby after I had worked as an Engineer forty five years for Navistar, we've been blessed in life whereby we have no debts whatsoever.. No one had handed us our good fortune upon a silver platter and the lifestyle which we now have had been earned..

I would be interested to know the grade level that you teach, albeit, teachers with a masters degree who teach classes at the high school level can make a good wage, but if you teach classes for the toddlers and or pre-teens and you are without a masters degree, you probably don't make much money at all. Unless you have a love for teaching, perhaps you should had targeted another major when in college and by now, you would, no doubt, be making far more money..

It's also disturbing to read a message from a teacher who has a bitter opinion of a person who had earned his good fortunes in life, for it's people like you who have influence upon our children today whereby if you teach them your ways of thinking, I would hate to discover one day where their lives will had taken them..

In closing, may I suggest that you make contact with some of the local ranchers in your area and see if they can help your cause by supplying cameras for your students..

Lastly, may you have a good life and try to provide your students an even playing field when it comes to your personal beliefs which certainly affect theirs and don't ever overlook the fact that if everyone were to have your socialistic beliefs, the freedoms that we enjoy today will be totally taken away from all of us.

I send you my best regards and please know that I am not insulted nor do I have hard feelings toward you; however, it saddens me to, perhaps, have to come to the realization that there are more among us who think just as do you.

Try to enjoy the remainder of you day and I wish for you the very best,
~Doug~
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Perhaps he teaches Potato 101 in Idaho. I have no idea about Idaho but all public school teachers make fairly good salaries and excellent benefits in California. Actually none enough though since they end up paying for a lot of supplies and educational materials out of their own pockets.

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Nov 12, 2014 15:13:09   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
Zone-System-Grandpa wrote:
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How is your dental insurance working for you?
;-)


About the same as my health insurance........

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Nov 12, 2014 15:14:06   #
Shutter Bugger
 
Zone-System-Grandpa wrote:
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You might want to check the timing on that racecar of yours because the last lap you had taken in it had sounded like it was a wee bit retarded !


pffft.

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Nov 12, 2014 15:25:44   #
Shutter Bugger
 
Just for the hell of it:

Check the timing on your racecar. It sounded retarded last lap.

Versus:

You might want to check the timing on that racecar of yours because the last lap you had taken in it had sounded like it was a wee bit retarded !

If you are "wondering" dear reader, see the first entry on this page.

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Nov 12, 2014 15:54:44   #
Carl 383 Loc: Southampton UK
 
Zone-System-Grandpa wrote:
Well, guys, after taking delivery of another new Nikon D810 from B&H last week, I am now wanting to purchase another one !

My thinking is to have (3) Nikon D810's along with the D800E which I've had for nearly six months.. My reasoning is to have enough camera bodies so that I won't be needing to change lenses which could enable dust and other unwanted particles to enter into the camera body and, then, those particles come to rest upon it's sensor..

Other reasons for wanting (3) Nikon D810's with the D800E are so that I can mount my Sigma 180mm macro lens on the D800E, mount my Sigma 24-105mm on one of the D810's for everyday shots, mount my Nikon 16-35mm VRII on another D810 for wide angle needs, and to mount my Nikon 70-200mm f2.8 or my Nikon 200 f2 VRII on the final D810 for portraiture.. By doing it like this, there will never be a need to remove a lens which will guarantee that should any dust ever collect upon one of the sensors, it will had made entry due to air movement with one of the lenses having zoom capabilities..

Is there anyone else among our membership who would give consideration to doing the same as I will be doing ?
Well, guys, after taking delivery of another new N... (show quote)


No, you are aiming for a perfect sensor with no dust, yet as you said, dust will be able to enter via the lens. Back in the mid eighties I purchased two Canon T90's, not to prevent dust ingress (which was never a problem with film) but so that I could shoot both with print and slide film. It resulted in a lot of lens swapping in order to take the same image twice and more importantly, lugging two bodies everywhere. I find I am carrying enough weight with the number of lenses I use, never mind carrying (and purchasing) another four or five bodies and despite what Cholly thinks, I am not that rich :cry:
I would save my money (and back) and buy some decent cleaning tools or put money aside for the occasional professional clean. By all means have two bodies for those rare times when a body is in the shop being cleaned.
Will you have five bodies with you at all times with lens attached so that you will never miss a shot?
Now I am not telling you what to do with your own money, it is your life, don't live it by my criteria, I am just replying to your original question.
I will now ask a question;
"Is there nothing else you can do for this severe attack of GAS, such as going over to Sony?"
Just a suggestion :) :) :)
Hmm, thinking about it, it would give a perfect reason to acquire more bodies - "Honey, I'm just defending against dust, it's not GAS this time!"

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Nov 12, 2014 16:01:51   #
Carl 383 Loc: Southampton UK
 
Mr PC wrote:
Does Optech or anyone else make any kind of harness or sling that would accommodate all of that gear? It would have to be some kind of Lazy Susan. And you are going to have to bulk up, Grandpa! Will all of the cameras have the same settings? Maybe you could get a camera just for AP shots, another one for Manual and keep one in reserve for when you just have to have Shutter Priority... The possibilities are endless...Then you would never have to bother with the Mode Dial either. Just sayin...
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He could get a point and shoot - no lens changing = no dust.

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Nov 12, 2014 16:03:10   #
Zone-System-Grandpa Loc: Springfield, Ohio
 
Shutter Bugger wrote:
You cant see an analogy in "perspective of the lowest common denominator". That's your inability, not mine.

The syntax of what I wrote is ok.

You are
The smoke screen you have tried to create is not working a drowning man clutching at, in this case, a non existent straw.
bud.

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Have you any idea about that which you are writing ?
I mean, really think about the things which you have written.

For starters, on a photography forum, I had brought up the subject about wanting to purchase a camera and the last time that I had checked, talking about cameras on a photography forum was nothing out of the norm.

Then, you come along telling me that my syntax is amiss followed by suggesting that I need to see a psychotherapist followed by your saying that I cannot see an analogy in "perspective of the lowest common denominator, followed by your saying that I am a drowning man clutching at, in this case, a non existent straw and, then, you call me "bud" while telling me that, as you call it, "my smoke screen is not working for me?"

Now, put all of the aforementioned together and ask yourself if you feel that your responses have anything to do with a UHH member on a photography forum talking about his wanting to purchase a new camera ?

I am no expert, but in lay terms, there is a strong possibility that you are in need of counseling for anger management and if you don't think that you have demonstrated anger for all to read, you may be in need of some serious professional help.. No kidding, and I wish you the best should you ever decide to seek help.

Meanwhile, I will cease participating with this subject any longer and although my original topic had been related to photography on a photography forum, you have twisted and contorted the original idea into something which no longer is appropriate for discussion.

I wish you well..
~Doug~

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Nov 12, 2014 16:04:40   #
Oknoder Loc: Western North Dakota
 
Well I made a cheeky comment earlier that I have no idea if it was answered because it got buried by all the posts, but have refrained from making any real serious post. Many people have shown negativity and even open hostility towards the OP for a multitude of reasons. Whether you disbelieve him or not, I personally do not see why it matters enough to anyone to actually take time to post about their disbelief. I don't believe too much I see in text form on these, or any other forums for that matter. While I would choose a different path, it does not mean I offer any judgement to his own avenues that only his logic can decide if appropriate or not.

I do understand the allure of having the same bodies as backup, since you do not have to re-orientate one's self to the different body, just to use a different lens. Personally I rented two D800e bodies when I went to the Middle East, where I did not want to expose the innards to the harsh elements, this gave me three identical cameras to quickly change between, without worrying about fouling up the sensor or shutter mechanisms. Granted I did break down the cameras when back at the hotel to verify the sensors were clean, without having to check photos for dust. Some people do not feel comfortable cleaning their own sensors and it can be a real PITA if you have to lose your main body for the week or two it would take to have it professionally cleaned. In my own opinion though I went for different bodies for my everyday shooting, because I never know what style of photography will tickle my fancy that week. Stretching from the range of astro and light-painting, all the way to landscape, wildlife and macro, has led me down a path that is more advantageous to have different bodies with separate abilities. But again this is my path not the OP's so his logic may lead him elsewhere.

I have seen many state in not so nice of words that he is wasting his money, and he should be using that money to help other people in one way or another. To this I have to say, bullshit. I cannot speak for anyone but myself, but I have no idea how much this man donates or assists in his private life. To be honest, it is none of our business and has nothing to do with the original question posed. When stated that he could instead assist other people who do not have it as well off as himself, I would turn this around on the poster posing such a scenario. We all are here on a photography site and the vast majority of us do not do this as a way to feed our family, it is a hobby. I would say that those who think we should share the wealth, as the RANGERS say "lead the way", give away all of your belongings that have nothing to do with your everyday "needs" before coming to me broaching how I should distribute my own money. I have worked very hard for every bit of wealth I have attained, and I am by no means claiming to be filthy rich, but I am comfortable. As far as I am concerned, as long as my bills are paid, have a nice nest-egg, as based on my age, it is no one else's concern what I deem worthy of spending my money on. No one on here needs a camera or a computer for that matter and many in the world get by with far less. I'm sure there are impoverished youths that could use the laptop you use to criticize the OP, but instead you decided that you needed it more than the poor impoverished people. Something odd about Americans I have come to notice is they are the richest people in the world and yet they are the most hateful of those that have more than themselves. I know this is a generalization and does not apply to all, but it is just something I have noticed especially dealing with those online.

While I think many of the objectors got the feeling that the OP was bragging, and maybe he was, it does not matter. If you cannot offer a reasonable response to his question, do not judge and then berate someone you do not know, and have no idea about this person, other than what they choose to share through some random moniker on a random website (no offense UHH). I tend to think people take these posts far too serious, questioning someone's, who could be all imaginary for all I know, integrity based on the amount of photos they have posted seems tacky. I too have not posted too many actual photos on the site, other than asking questions and using photos to show the actual issue I am discussing. Does this mean I do not have the equipment I say I have or that I only shoot a couple of shots a month? Some people do things that they believe are logical, but when viewed by others seems odd and random, trying to understand someone else's logic is an effort in futility. By the time you think you understand how someone thinks they go ahead and do something completely random and unexpected. I can barely understand my own logic, let alone everyone else's.

Before I get attacked for my horrendous grammar or syntax, English is not my first language and in no way strive for perfection of written speech on some website. As my father said "listen to what I mean, not what I say"

Then again what do I know
FLAME on...

Best of luck in your endeavors,
Matthew

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Nov 12, 2014 16:04:56   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
Zone-System-Grandpa wrote:
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Brother Boz, you guys have been really tough on me today, but I do realize that I had asked for it :)

Here I am, some poor old man talking about cameras on a photography forum and all I have gotten in return has been a serious pounding for the past 18 hours or more.

It's amazing to be hated by so many for my having posted a message about wanting to purchase more camera bodies.

~ Doug ~


Always amazing how anonymity and the internet encourages haters to hate with full venom.
:XD:

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Nov 12, 2014 16:16:09   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
Zone-System-Grandpa wrote:

I never carry more than 2 cameras, but even then, mostly, I carry only 1 camera...
whenever a situation arises requiring a camera with a certain lens mounted upon it, I will have that camera/lens combination available to me instantly


Not if you're not carrying them.

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Nov 12, 2014 16:49:58   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
Zone-System-Grandpa wrote:
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Thank you... She is my daughter and her name is Kendra although she prefers to be addressed as Kendi..

Truly, the photo was a snapshot which, if I recall correctly, had been taken out in our garden area about a month ago and I do thank you for your positive comment.

Kendi, along with my wife (Vicki) & Yours Truly, had been trying to clean up our raised bed garden bed areas which was when it had been decided to take a few photos of the girls when their tasks had been completed... Although the camera used was either my D810 or the D800E, the lens used was a Sigma 24-105mm with image stabilization. The shot had been hand held and if I remember correctly, the shutter speed may had been somewhere around 1/60th of a second ? Actually, I had the camera set on Program mode and had permitted the camera to choose whatever setting it liked. :D This is the reason why I have called it a snapshot.
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That's quite a snapshot indeed. Thanks for the very entertaining post.
Marion

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Nov 12, 2014 16:56:55   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Zone-System-Grandpa wrote:
Well, guys, after taking delivery of another new Nikon D810 from B&H last week, I am now wanting to purchase another one !

My thinking is to have (3) Nikon D810's along with the D800E which I've had for nearly six months.. My reasoning is to have enough camera bodies so that I won't be needing to change lenses which could enable dust and other unwanted particles to enter into the camera body and, then, those particles come to rest upon it's sensor..

Other reasons for wanting (3) Nikon D810's with the D800E are so that I can mount my Sigma 180mm macro lens on the D800E, mount my Sigma 24-105mm on one of the D810's for everyday shots, mount my Nikon 16-35mm VRII on another D810 for wide angle needs, and to mount my Nikon 70-200mm f2.8 or my Nikon 200 f2 VRII on the final D810 for portraiture.. By doing it like this, there will never be a need to remove a lens which will guarantee that should any dust ever collect upon one of the sensors, it will had made entry due to air movement with one of the lenses having zoom capabilities..

Is there anyone else among our membership who would give consideration to doing the same as I will be doing ?
Well, guys, after taking delivery of another new N... (show quote)

I have two bodies, I always carry with that in mind, but I still have to switch lenses (have more then 20). For how many lenses are you trying to go on with this, you will need an extra person to carry all those cameras? Sometime I do carry four, but that's two around my neck and another two in the car close by.

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Nov 12, 2014 16:59:04   #
Shutter Bugger
 
Zone-System-Grandpa wrote:
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Have you any idea about that which you are writing ?
I mean, really think about the things which you have written.

For starters, on a photography forum, I had brought up the subject about wanting to purchase a camera and the last time that I had checked, talking about cameras on a photography forum was nothing out of the norm.

Then, you come along telling me that my syntax is amiss followed by suggesting that I need to see a psychotherapist followed by your saying that I cannot see an analogy in "perspective of the lowest common denominator, followed by your saying that I am a drowning man clutching at, in this case, a non existent straw and, then, you call me "bud" while telling me that, as you call it, "my smoke screen is not working for me?"

Now, put all of the aforementioned together and ask yourself if you feel that your responses have anything to do with a UHH member on a photography forum talking about his wanting to purchase a new camera ?

I am no expert, but in lay terms, there is a strong possibility that you are in need of counseling for anger management and if you don't think that you have demonstrated anger for all to read, you may be in need of some serious professional help.. No kidding, and I wish you the best should you ever decide to seek help.

Meanwhile, I will cease participating with this subject any longer and although my original topic had been related to photography on a photography forum, you have twisted and contorted the original idea into something which no longer is appropriate for discussion.

I wish you well..
~Doug~
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The screen shot below is conclusive evidence that the above is a gigantic
pile of steaming hypocrisy.

As for "anger" and "Haters" you're far too amusing for that. Ive been laughing my head off at you for hours.

You should be aware though, that when you post bull shit, you are going
to get negative feed back. You had the stupidity to post that about 12 members were agro at you in this thread... Doesnt that tell you something? IQ of 142... that's right, and the Kennedys
dont have black clothes.

You created the shit sandwich, you eat it.


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