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Nov 10, 2014 08:32:01   #
mffox Loc: Avon, CT
 
Can anyone point me to a resource explaining Tilt-Shift photography technique? Thanks.

mffox

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Nov 10, 2014 09:17:22   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
http://paulturounetblog.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/view-camera-movements.pdf

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Nov 10, 2014 09:49:45   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
I use the art filter in my camera for that effect:

http://douthittfamily.smugmug.com/2014/May-2014/i-bVZBDRp/0/XL/EM133730-20140523-XL.jpg

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Nov 10, 2014 10:18:01   #
Nightski
 
John Greengo has a segment in this class devoted to the Tilt-shift lens. I think for that segment alone it is worth the price of the classes, but he has 26 segments in this class. He goes over the cameras and lenses on the market from full frame, Cropped sensor, to mirror less. He covers the pros and cons of all and even visits the subject of view cameras. He talks about all the Canon and Nikon lenses. He covers composition and light. He covers so much and this class is so worth it. They do run sales on their classes though so go try to buy it to see if it's on sale.

http://www.creativelive.com/courses/nature-and-landscape-photography-john-greengo

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Nov 10, 2014 10:29:34   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
I thought there was software that could emulate tilt-shift.

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Nov 10, 2014 10:34:22   #
Nightski
 
Cdouthitt wrote:


Could you please explain which function of the Tilt-Shift you are emulating with this "art" filter?

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Nov 10, 2014 10:44:37   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Nightski wrote:
Could you please explain which function of the Tilt-Shift you are emulating with this "art" filter?


Scratch that (brain-fart...not enough coffee yet)...I was thinking Diorama...not tilt shift.

However, that said the new firmware does allow for keystone compensation.

In-Camera Digital Shift
Using two dials, firmware Version 2.0 features in-camera Digital Shift, or Keystone Compensation, allowing you to correct the converging lines of trapezoidal distortion in Live View, without the need for a shift lens or post-processing.

The issue for me is that they only apply it to jpgs, not the RAW files.

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Nov 10, 2014 10:46:01   #
Nightski
 
Indi wrote:
I thought there was software that could emulate tilt-shift.


You can emulate the effects in post with image stacking. Not with one photograph. As far as I know. One difference between the Tilt Shift and the wide angle lens is that you can get everything from from to back in focus with a more wide open aperture. This is because of something called the Scheimflug Principal.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/focusing-ts.shtml

Why is this important? Let's say you have a field of flowers in front of a Mountian. There is a slight breeze. If you stop down that aperture, your shutter speed with have to be slower and the flowers will have motion blur. There is no software that can correct motion blur.

I have permission from Creative Live to post examples of what I am talking about. I had a conversation with a woman in their copyright department over the phone and she said as long as I don't allow download, they are happy for me to advertise for them in this way.

An Example of Tilt shift photography
An Example of Tilt shift photography...

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Nov 10, 2014 11:03:10   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Nightski wrote:
You can emulate the effects in post with image stacking. Not with one photograph. As far as I know.


Half way down on the blog shows an example. with one shot.

http://robinwong.blogspot.com/2014/09/multiple-olympus-announcements-mzuiko.html

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Nov 10, 2014 11:47:32   #
Nightski
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Half way down on the blog shows an example. with one shot.

http://robinwong.blogspot.com/2014/09/multiple-olympus-announcements-mzuiko.html


The building? Yes, you can do vertical adjustments in lightroom and other software. That example is still not as true to life as examples I've seen done with the tilt shift.

You have to consider one more thing. When you do the shift adjustment in post, you lose about 40% of the pixels. It depends on how you are going to use the image, but if you need high IQ for architectural shots, you aren't going to get it in post.

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Nov 10, 2014 11:50:58   #
Nightski
 
If the OP has a tilt shift lens, telling him to do the corrections for a wide angle lens in post is not very helpful. It is nice when we answer the OP's question, and not a bunch of questions he didn't ask.

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Nov 10, 2014 12:08:44   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Scratch that (brain-fart...not enough coffee yet)...I was thinking Diorama...not tilt shift.

However, that said the new firmware does allow for keystone compensation.

In-Camera Digital Shift
Using two dials, firmware Version 2.0 features in-camera Digital Shift, or Keystone Compensation, allowing you to correct the converging lines of trapezoidal distortion in Live View, without the need for a shift lens or post-processing.

The issue for me is that they only apply it to jpgs, not the RAW files.
Scratch that (brain-fart...not enough coffee yet).... (show quote)


The photo you posted resembles what happens with front forward tilt and a wide aperture. Look at some of David Burnett's Olympics photos taken with a Speed Graphic

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Nov 10, 2014 12:13:08   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Maybe I wasn't so far off with my example...who the hell knows...apparently nightski knows best.
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/11/16/beautiful-examples-of-tilt-shift-photography/

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Nov 10, 2014 12:33:08   #
Nightski
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Maybe I wasn't so far off with my example...who the hell knows...apparently nightski knows best.
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/11/16/beautiful-examples-of-tilt-shift-photography/


Ahh .. I get it .. the miniature effect. That's why I asked what you were trying to emulate. I didn't get it. When I clicked on your link it was immediately apparent to me what they were using the lens for. You have just made my point. While you can get close in post, it pretty hard, if not impossible to get the same effect without multiple exposures.

I'm not saying I know best. I am simply stating a fact. You will not get exactly the same image with post processing adjustments as you will with the tilt shift lens.

Am I saying everyone should go out and buy a tilt shift? No .. in fact it's probably one of the last lenses you should ever buy, and then only if you have the extra money.

I also said it depends on your intent for the photograph.

All that having been said, I think my posts have been the most helpful in answering the question that was asked.

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Nov 10, 2014 14:36:58   #
mffox Loc: Avon, CT
 
Thank you.
mffox

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