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Oct 29, 2014 13:29:37   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
tita1948 wrote:
If you don't have the lens racked out to a ridicules length is there a mirrorless camera that takes tack sharp photos? So far what I have seen leaves me unimpressed. Everything always looks soft.

I hope someone can prove me wrong because I really want one :-)


Tita1948, sorry some are giving you grief. I know some have given you sites to go to and here is one more. Slrgear. They will give you a good idea of what a camera or lens is capable of. If you read about the Olympus E-M1 and the 12-40 mm f2.8 lens, you will be able to see it is more than able to produce pro quality photographs in the hands of a true pro photographer. Most pros want or need the larger sensors or the higher ISOs. But if it is not necessary for the work you do, 4/3rds may be an acceptable alternative to the larger, heavier, and more expensive full frame cameras. And Olympus is not the only 3/4rds camera manufacture with cameras of pro guality capabilities.

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Oct 29, 2014 13:51:33   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
tita1948 wrote:
If you don't have the lens racked out to a ridicules length is there a mirrorless camera that takes tack sharp photos? So far what I have seen leaves me unimpressed. Everything always looks soft.

I hope someone can prove me wrong because I really want one :-)


If I were you, I would look at the Sony RX10, Canon GX1 II, or the Sony A3000/NEX series APS-c with Sigma 19,30, and 60mm primes or Zeiss zooms.

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Oct 29, 2014 13:57:20   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Elskipo wrote:
Sony A6000 16-55 kit lens.

Sharp enough?


Actually I'm not sure that the gallery shot is not suffering from camera shake? The bust seems to have a slight ghosting effect to the head - evidenced along the edge-line of the nose?
Or is my screen playing tricks? or my eyes come to that?
The second shot certainly looks very sharp.

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Oct 29, 2014 13:58:36   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Delderby wrote:
Actually I'm not sure that the gallery shot is not suffering from camera shake? The bust seems to have a slight ghosting effect to the head - evidenced along the edge-line of the nose?
Or is my screen playing tricks? or my eyes come to that?
The second shot certainly looks very sharp.


it was shot at 1/20 sec...which if there was no IS on the lens or body, it lends itself to camera shake.

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Oct 29, 2014 13:59:17   #
josephnl Loc: Irvine,, CA
 
tita1948 wrote:
If you don't have the lens racked out to a ridicules length is there a mirrorless camera that takes tack sharp photos? So far what I have seen leaves me unimpressed. Everything always looks soft.

I hope someone can prove me wrong because I really want one :-)


I truly don't think you are correct. I own one of the less expensive mirrorless cameras, the Sony Alpha a6000 and have been using it for now with the kit lens, and virtually all of my images are perfectly in focus and super sharp. Now, there's no question in my mind that if I put a Zeiss/Sony lens on the camera, that the images will truly "pop" more, but I think that this will be more due to the lens characteristics, especially contrast, than the ability of the mirrorless camera to focus perfectly.

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Oct 29, 2014 14:09:27   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
[quote=GDRoth]My Fuji X100S......hand held f8, 1/125 ISO 2000

Yes - super sharp. I guess it couldn't be SOOC? Is your camera set on vivid? Great Pic. Can see no noise at ISO2000 and no jitter.

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Oct 29, 2014 14:26:16   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Delderby wrote:
Yes - super sharp. I guess it couldn't be SOOC? Is your camera set on vivid? Great Pic. Can see no noise at ISO2000 and no jitter.

The film simulations with Fuji cameras are pretty awesome.
They know a thing or two about color.
Out of all the camera makers out there today, Fuji is the only company that makes film too, and some damn good film at that. I still use a Fuji S5pro for studio portraits and just use jpeg.
Skin tones are fantastic.

They also made professional medium and large-format cameras and lenses. I fell in love with my X-E1- the ergonomics got me first, build and image quality are impressive.
Little known fact: they also made the Hasselblad X-pan.

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Oct 29, 2014 14:29:50   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
The film simulations with Fuji cameras is pretty awesome.
Remember, out of all the camera makers out there today, Fuji is the only one who makes film, and some damn good Film at that.


mmm, velvia 50...

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Oct 29, 2014 14:48:06   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
mmm, velvia 50...



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Oct 29, 2014 14:50:35   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
My sense of Fujifilm offerings, too.

I might add Adobe Camera Raw allows selection of several Fujifilm effects for the Raw image.

IMHO, Fujifilm has put itself on a leading edge in contemporary photography.
GoofyNewfie wrote:
The film simulations with Fuji cameras are pretty awesome.
They know a thing or two about color.
Out of all the camera makers out there today, Fuji is the only company that makes film too, and some damn good film at that. I still use a Fuji S5pro for studio portraits and just use jpeg.
Skin tones are fantastic.

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Oct 29, 2014 15:14:49   #
marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL
 
tita1948 wrote:
Sorry about your bad experience that must have been scary. But yes I would like to see other photos that you have taken with a mirrorless camera. Don't worry about when you send it. I just appreciate your help.

One other question does mirrorless mean the same as bridge? Maybe I'm confusing things.


A bridge camera has a permanently affixed zoom lens and a small sensor. A mirrorless camera has a system of lenses available to put on it and typically the same size crop sensor as a dSLR or a micro-4/3 sensor if it's an Olympus or Panasonic.

A mirrorless camera is basically the same internally as a dSLR except that because it is mirrorless it has many less moving parts inside and the body can be smaller and the lenses can be smaller thus the whole thing is more compact and weighs less.

The main difference is that because there is no mirror in a mirrorless camera, it won't have an optical viewfinder because the mirror is required to bounce a picture up to the eye piece for you to see. It will either have an EVF (electronic view finder) which is a little tiny TV screen for you to look at through the viewfinder hole or it won't have a viewfinder at all and will have only the LCD screen on the back.

I have an Olympus mirrorless, for example, and mine didn't come with a viewfinder at all but there is an optional one to slide into the hotshoe and a plug socket is on the back side of the camera for the EVF to plug into. More expensive mirrorless cameras many times have an EVF built in.

Being mirrorless or mirrored actually has nothing to do with tack sharp or razor sharp photos. The quality of the body and the quality of the glass are big factors, whether the auto focus is exceptional or not, whether you can see well enough to manual focus, whether you move a little during shooting, whether your image stabilization is excellent or lame, and many other factors.

There are people on here using bridge cameras that cost less than $400 and they have tack sharp results so that you can see every single hair on a lion's mane that was shot from 50 feet away. And birds that are as sharp as if they were on your hand shot from 1,000 feet away wtih a Canon bridge camera.

There are people on here who have $5000 wrapped up in their full-frame sensor dSLR cameras and they can't shoot as sharp as the person with the $400 bridge camera.

Mirrorless is right in there in the same category of sharpness as most all the crop sensor dSLRs so I think you're barking up the wrong tree about mirroless and non-sharp photos being related in any way.

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Oct 29, 2014 15:15:45   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
cuzinvin wrote:
If there's anything wrong with this shot, it's my fault, not that of the camera, a Fuji X-T1 with the 18-55 "kit" lens...

Interesting shot. It's sort of a "Where's Waldo Focusing?" with objects in the foreground, middle, and rear all in and out of focus. Not complaining, just unusual.

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Oct 29, 2014 15:56:44   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Cdouthitt wrote:
mmm, velvia 50...

The non-subliminal message made me to hold the box that Homer is fantasizing about. :lol:

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Oct 29, 2014 15:59:22   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
amehta wrote:
The non-subliminal message made me to hold the box that Homer is fantasizing about. :lol:

I even liked the taste of the adhesive Fuji used on the securing tab with their roll film. Mmmm...minty!

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Oct 29, 2014 16:19:32   #
pixelwars
 
There is nothing inherent in a mirrorless design that will inhibit sharpness, but there are advantages in eliminating the mirror box. First there is the mechanical precision required to align the mirror and ground glass focusing screen so that they are in identical focus and the autofocus is spot on. Then there are the constraints the mirror box forces on lens designs. I was talking to an Olympus techie about the challenges in bending the light for the very wide 7-14 for the E-series. His comment was: bending the light was not the hard part, straightening it out was.

My only issue with some of the mirrorless cameras is that they are too small to get a good grip on.

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