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Feb 10, 2012 13:31:18   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
So since this is a FX/35mm format and the D300 a DX you basically use it as a 750mm!!!

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Feb 10, 2012 13:47:08   #
LittleRedFish Loc: Naw'lens (New Orleans)
 
Adubin wrote:
I used a Nikon D300 with a Nikon 500mm f-4 manual focus lens to take this photo. Camera was set-up to ISO 640, speed 1/2000, f-stop f-5.6. It was a cloudy, day so I had very poor lighting.

I used OnOne Perfect Mask and their background to add the sky to this photo, and further enhanced it with Photoshop CS4 this photo.

I would appreciate your critiques and feedback how I could improve this photo. Thanks, Arnold


Alright, I really don't know much, but I'm thinking that your ISO was a little to high. Even though the sun is not out the glare and brightness is still intense. An ISO around 400 or even 200 might have worked better. Also a polorizing filter would have added a bluer background. If you used the filter, the the ISO at 600 might have been the right setting. but, it does not look like you used a polarize filter. I guessing you did have a UV filter though.

That's just my opinion, you can take it with a pinch of salt and a shot of tequilla if you want. ;-)

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Feb 10, 2012 13:57:13   #
Bill Pinto Loc: Metairie, Louisiana
 
GREAT SHOT and photoshop work. The only thing I can think about is that your eye go to the brightest (whitest) areas of the image, the clouds they are distracting. If you can take them out your eye would be on the bird, only. Again great shot.

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Feb 10, 2012 13:57:21   #
Bill Pinto Loc: Metairie, Louisiana
 
GREAT SHOT and photoshop work. The only thing I can think about is that your eye go to the brightest (whitest) areas of the image, the clouds they are distracting. If you can take them out your eye would be on the bird, only. Again great shot.

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Feb 10, 2012 14:08:41   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
Adubin wrote:
.../... I'm not going to post this original photo on my website, because it doesn't meet my standards. .../...
Considering your standar displayed on your web site, I can't argue with you about it!!!

Why on earth did you even consider this image in the first place? (You do not have to answer that, it is rhetorical)

Jacques

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Feb 10, 2012 14:18:10   #
Adubin Loc: Indialantic, Florida
 
Rachel, Yep, I could have reduced my ISO, but that would have not improve the poor lighting conditions. I find lower ISO only helps reduce noise in the shadow areas. Since this is such a large lens I can't use a UV filter in front of the lens. I believe a polarize filter wouldn't have helped since there was no blue sky. BTW - Normally I would have just rejected a photo like this, since it takes a lot time to enhance it, and never looks as good when you capture very good photograph.
Arnold
Rachel wrote:
Adubin wrote:
I used a Nikon D300 with a Nikon 500mm f-4 manual focus lens to take this photo. Camera was set-up to ISO 640, speed 1/2000, f-stop f-5.6. It was a cloudy, day so I had very poor lighting.

I used OnOne Perfect Mask and their background to add the sky to this photo, and further enhanced it with Photoshop CS4 this photo.

I would appreciate your critiques and feedback how I could improve this photo. Thanks, Arnold


Alright, I really don't know much, but I'm thinking that your ISO was a little to high. Even though the sun is not out the glare and brightness is still intense. An ISO around 400 or even 200 might have worked better. Also a polorizing filter would have added a bluer background. If you used the filter, the the ISO at 600 might have been the right setting. but, it does not look like you used a polarize filter. I guessing you did have a UV filter though.

That's just my opinion, you can take it with a pinch of salt and a shot of tequilla if you want. ;-)
quote=Adubin I used a Nikon D300 with a Nikon 500... (show quote)

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Feb 10, 2012 14:20:05   #
Adubin Loc: Indialantic, Florida
 
Bill, Thanks for your comments, Arnold

Bill Pinto wrote:
GREAT SHOT and photoshop work. The only thing I can think about is that your eye go to the brightest (whitest) areas of the image, the clouds they are distracting. If you can take them out your eye would be on the bird, only. Again great shot.

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Feb 10, 2012 14:24:23   #
Adubin Loc: Indialantic, Florida
 
Wolf, I just learned how to use OnOne Perfect Mask, and figured this would enhance it enough to look OK to put it on my website. From your feedback, plus it others, it convinced it was a waste of my time. Arnold

English_Wolf wrote:
Adubin wrote:
.../... I'm not going to post this original photo on my website, because it doesn't meet my standards. .../...
Considering your standar displayed on your web site, I can't argue with you about it!!!

Why on earth did you even consider this image in the first place? (You do not have to answer that, it is rhetorical)

Jacques

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Feb 10, 2012 14:59:30   #
Bill Pinto Loc: Metairie, Louisiana
 
I just thought that a polarizer filter may help, because it would have taken out the glare, a lower ISO and a tripod would have let you achieve a better all around photo. Using a tripod if possible would have stabilize the image and lower ISO for better color rendition. The polarizer is use for getting rid of glare, but it will cut down you f/stop. That where the tripod into play.

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Feb 10, 2012 17:13:02   #
LittleRedFish Loc: Naw'lens (New Orleans)
 
Adubin wrote:
Rachel, Yep, I could have reduced my ISO, but that would have not improve the poor lighting conditions. I find lower ISO only helps reduce noise in the shadow areas. Since this is such a large lens I can't use a UV filter in front of the lens. I believe a polarize filter wouldn't have helped since there was no blue sky. BTW - Normally I would have just rejected a photo like this, since it takes a lot time to enhance it, and never looks as good when you capture very good photograph.
Arnold
Rachel wrote:
Adubin wrote:
I used a Nikon D300 with a Nikon 500mm f-4 manual focus lens to take this photo. Camera was set-up to ISO 640, speed 1/2000, f-stop f-5.6. It was a cloudy, day so I had very poor lighting.

I used OnOne Perfect Mask and their background to add the sky to this photo, and further enhanced it with Photoshop CS4 this photo.

I would appreciate your critiques and feedback how I could improve this photo. Thanks, Arnold


Alright, I really don't know much, but I'm thinking that your ISO was a little to high. Even though the sun is not out the glare and brightness is still intense. An ISO around 400 or even 200 might have worked better. Also a polorizing filter would have added a bluer background. If you used the filter, the the ISO at 600 might have been the right setting. but, it does not look like you used a polarize filter. I guessing you did have a UV filter though.

That's just my opinion, you can take it with a pinch of salt and a shot of tequilla if you want. ;-)
quote=Adubin I used a Nikon D300 with a Nikon 500... (show quote)
Rachel, Yep, I could have reduced my ISO, but tha... (show quote)


Ya know, I think I'm going to ask a friend of mine about using the polorizing filter on white overcast days. He's a pro photography who makes his living from teaching others.
You have a very good point about "if theres no blue in the sky". It also could have given the bird strange shadows and coloring. Like I said, really out of my box here.

Now I must ask? Why can you not use a UV filter on your lens? I mean one is not made for it, or you find it interfears with the white balance and causes a lot of noise?

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Feb 10, 2012 17:26:31   #
Adubin Loc: Indialantic, Florida
 
Rachel, The front of this Nikon 500mm lens is over 5 inches wide and nobody I know makes a UV filter for it. I also checked and Nikon doesn't an insert UV filter either. Arnold

Rachel wrote:
Adubin wrote:
Rachel, Yep, I could have reduced my ISO, but that would have not improve the poor lighting conditions. I find lower ISO only helps reduce noise in the shadow areas. Since this is such a large lens I can't use a UV filter in front of the lens. I believe a polarize filter wouldn't have helped since there was no blue sky. BTW - Normally I would have just rejected a photo like this, since it takes a lot time to enhance it, and never looks as good when you capture very good photograph.
Arnold
Rachel wrote:
Adubin wrote:
I used a Nikon D300 with a Nikon 500mm f-4 manual focus lens to take this photo. Camera was set-up to ISO 640, speed 1/2000, f-stop f-5.6. It was a cloudy, day so I had very poor lighting.

I used OnOne Perfect Mask and their background to add the sky to this photo, and further enhanced it with Photoshop CS4 this photo.

I would appreciate your critiques and feedback how I could improve this photo. Thanks, Arnold


Alright, I really don't know much, but I'm thinking that your ISO was a little to high. Even though the sun is not out the glare and brightness is still intense. An ISO around 400 or even 200 might have worked better. Also a polorizing filter would have added a bluer background. If you used the filter, the the ISO at 600 might have been the right setting. but, it does not look like you used a polarize filter. I guessing you did have a UV filter though.

That's just my opinion, you can take it with a pinch of salt and a shot of tequilla if you want. ;-)
quote=Adubin I used a Nikon D300 with a Nikon 500... (show quote)
Rachel, Yep, I could have reduced my ISO, but tha... (show quote)


Ya know, I think I'm going to ask a friend of mine about using the polorizing filter on white overcast days. He's a pro photography who makes his living from teaching others.
You have a very good point about "if theres no blue in the sky". It also could have given the bird strange shadows and coloring. Like I said, really out of my box here.

Now I must ask? Why can you not use a UV filter on your lens? I mean one is not made for it, or you find it interfears with the white balance and causes a lot of noise?
quote=Adubin Rachel, Yep, I could have reduced m... (show quote)

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Feb 10, 2012 18:10:17   #
LittleRedFish Loc: Naw'lens (New Orleans)
 
Adubin wrote:
Rachel, The front of this Nikon 500mm lens is over 5 inches wide and nobody I know makes a UV filter for it. I also checked and Nikon doesn't an insert UV filter either. Arnold

Rachel wrote:
Adubin wrote:
Rachel, Yep, I could have reduced my ISO, but that would have not improve the poor lighting conditions. I find lower ISO only helps reduce noise in the shadow areas. Since this is such a large lens I can't use a UV filter in front of the lens. I believe a polarize filter wouldn't have helped since there was no blue sky. BTW - Normally I would have just rejected a photo like this, since it takes a lot time to enhance it, and never looks as good when you capture very good photograph.
Arnold
Rachel wrote:
Adubin wrote:
I used a Nikon D300 with a Nikon 500mm f-4 manual focus lens to take this photo. Camera was set-up to ISO 640, speed 1/2000, f-stop f-5.6. It was a cloudy, day so I had very poor lighting.

I used OnOne Perfect Mask and their background to add the sky to this photo, and further enhanced it with Photoshop CS4 this photo.

I would appreciate your critiques and feedback how I could improve this photo. Thanks, Arnold


Alright, I really don't know much, but I'm thinking that your ISO was a little to high. Even though the sun is not out the glare and brightness is still intense. An ISO around 400 or even 200 might have worked better. Also a polorizing filter would have added a bluer background. If you used the filter, the the ISO at 600 might have been the right setting. but, it does not look like you used a polarize filter. I guessing you did have a UV filter though.

That's just my opinion, you can take it with a pinch of salt and a shot of tequilla if you want. ;-)
quote=Adubin I used a Nikon D300 with a Nikon 500... (show quote)
Rachel, Yep, I could have reduced my ISO, but tha... (show quote)


Ya know, I think I'm going to ask a friend of mine about using the polorizing filter on white overcast days. He's a pro photography who makes his living from teaching others.
You have a very good point about "if theres no blue in the sky". It also could have given the bird strange shadows and coloring. Like I said, really out of my box here.

Now I must ask? Why can you not use a UV filter on your lens? I mean one is not made for it, or you find it interfears with the white balance and causes a lot of noise?
quote=Adubin Rachel, Yep, I could have reduced m... (show quote)
Rachel, The front of this Nikon 500mm lens is ove... (show quote)


I think ya need to talk to NASA or some other group on making you a UV filter to fit that monster. Not to mention a bionic arm to hold it up before you shoot. 8-)

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Feb 10, 2012 18:12:40   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Arnold, your edited photo is fine. I think you did a superb job. 8-)

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Feb 10, 2012 18:56:45   #
Adubin Loc: Indialantic, Florida
 
Mmac, Thanks for your comments, Arnold

Bmac wrote:
Arnold, your edited photo is fine. I think you did a superb job. 8-)

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Feb 10, 2012 19:10:40   #
Adubin Loc: Indialantic, Florida
 
Can somebody in the UHH community please tell me why this thread was moved to the "Photo Gallery" from the "Photo Analysis" by the UHH admin? Arnold

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