Has anybody heard from Canon? The new 750 blows away the best Canon (5D Mark IV). The dynamic range and low light alone would shame Canon users. Glad I went Nikon.
(Okay - send me the hate mail)
I already have a d800 and was thinking about a d810. Of the d750 I see another feature that would be nice is the U1 and U2 settings wheel. Even 51 focus settings now I keep it set to just 9.
The tilt screen is nice. Wifi is not really a factor for me.
For now I'm going to wait for the d820 and hope it has a tilt screen.
OviedoPhotos wrote:
I already have a d800 and was thinking about a d810. Of the d750 I see another feature that would be nice is the U1 and U2 settings wheel. Even 51 focus settings now I keep it set to just 9.
The tilt screen is nice. Wifi is not really a factor for me.
For now I'm going to wait for the d820 and hope it has a tilt screen.
I wonder if the screen is just tilt, or if it will swivel, too. Not swiveling is a negative.
jerryc41 wrote:
People seem to say that every time a new body is announced. We move ahead by small steps, not by leaps and bounds. Compare that to a D70. I'm sticking with what I have, but for people looking to upgrade, it would be a good choice.
I agree. I think the change from the D700 to the D800 was a leap, but we need to realize that that is the exception, not the rule. Advances are slowing down, and these models are coming out faster. It was 4 years from the D700 to the D800, but 2 years from the D800 to the D810. The D750, meanwhile, needs to fit in between the D810 and D610, so there was a limit to how good it could be.
The D750 seems to go head-to-head with the 5D Mark III (24MP vs 22MP, 51 point AF vs 61 points AF, 6.5 fps vs 6 fps, dual memory card slots in both, upgraded build/sealing, etc. Note: there's no such thing as a 5D Mark IV...yet.)
But, the D750 has a more than $1000 lower list price! I love it and am very glad to see this! I've been planning to upgrade from my 5DII to 5DIII soon, and maybe this direct competition will drive the price of the 5DIII down a bit more. There was a substantial increase in price from the 5DII to the 5DIII... maybe this will help turn that around.
(Note: On the other hand... the D750 in kit with 24-105 Nikkor lens is $1500 higher list price than the body only. The 5DIII in kit with 24-105 is sells for only $600 more than the body only price. That must be one hell of a 24-105 Nikkor to go for that price!)
Yes, the "dynamic range" statement is true... as far as it goes. At their native ISOs in lab testing the newer Nikon sensors offer one or two stops wider DR than the Canon sensors. One key benefit is that Nikon images can be recovered from underexposure more easily. But so long as one is careful to avoid underexposure it really ends up a pretty minor difference in most real world situations. There also is progressively less difference when higher and higher ISOs are used, to the point there's little or no difference at 3200 or above.
So, no... Canon users aren't feeling any shame... We just make sure to get our exposures correct. ;) Besides, for more than 15 years Canon has been making it's own sensors rather than buying them from another camera manufacturer. And Canon has been putting CMOS sensors in their DSLRs instead of inferior CCDs, plus stabilization in their lenses, both for nearly a decade longer than other folks. ;)
But seriously folks... The D750 seems quite a nice camera and I'm glad to see it. Competition is a good thing and benefits all us consumers.
Canon hasn't made their official Photokina announcements yet... They are expected to do so on Monday. Some pretty solid leaks are: a 7D Mark II, new EF-S 24mm f2.8 "pancake" lens for APS-C, new full frame compatible EF 24-105mm "STM" IS lens (stepper motor, ideal for videography, but this will no doubt be a lower priced/kit lens to sell alongside the current 24-105/4L IS USM), and a 400mm f4L DO IS Mark II (diffractive optics, that make for a more compact/lighter super tele option). Also at least couple new Powershot models (G7 X and SX60 HS)... rumors are there might be a third. Also some hints of an EOS Cinema announcement.
Bram boy
Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
Nikon_DonB wrote:
I don't know amehta, 51 points versus the 39 of the D600. Is that really that much of a big deal. Just more cluttering up the viewfinder if you ask me. And those will get used "how often?"
But then again, "What do I know?" J M H O!
and the price between the d610 and the d750 isent such a big difference , also
you can be pretty sure that there will be no oil or dust showing up on the censor after what they went through with the d600 . isent that why they brought out the d610 before it's time . just to fix the d600 problem . it was so bad they wound up giving d600 owners new D610 to save face and try to heal
old sore spots . you know the old saying , better late than never .
Nikon_DonB wrote:
I don't know amehta, 51 points versus the 39 of the D600. Is that really that much of a big deal. Just more cluttering up the viewfinder if you ask me. And those will get used "how often?"
But then again, "What do I know?" J M H O!
Is it just the 51 points or the upgraded software too? I'd bet the two come as a package, which makes it an upgrade to take notice of.
amehta wrote:
I think it's more the speed of the AF system than the number of focus points. The module with 39 points (Multi-CAM 4800) is not as capable as the older 51 point module (Multi-CAM 3500FX), much less the newer one (Multi-CAM 3500FX II).
Those 51 pts are important if you are shooting wildlife, sports but if you are doing portrait or landscape photography, it is not that important. The group focus system that Nikon has recently introduced will just add to the superior AF system that Nikon incorporates into their cameras.
Nikon_DonB wrote:
I personally don't see what all the fuss is about. It is basically a D6x0 with a tilt screen and built in wifi.
From DP Review after a Hands on with the D750. "It's a shame that the D750 does not feature the Split Screen Display Zoom feature of the D810 and some people will miss 1/8000 minimum shutter duration but aside from these omissions, arguably the only other thing of any significance that the D810 offers which the D750 doesn't is those extra 12 million pixels. "
D750 versus D610 versus D810
Nikon D610
Nikon D750
Nikon D810
Sensor resolution (type)
24.3MP CMOS
24.3MP CMOS
36.3MP CMOS (no OLPF)
Autofocus System
39 points with 9 cross-type
(Multi-CAM 2700)
51-points with 15 cross-type
(Multi-CAM 3500 II)
51-points with 15 cross-type
(Multi-CAM 3500)
Metering System
2,016 pixel RGB sensor
91,000 pixel RGB sensor
91,000 pixel RGB sensor
ISO sensitivity range
100-6400
(25,600 expanded)
100-12,800
(51,200 expanded)
64-12,800
(51,200 expanded)
Maximum shutter speed
1/4000th
1/4000th
1/8000th
Shutter rating
150,000 releases
150,000 releases
200,000 releases
Accessory connector
Multi-interface
Multi-interface
10-pin screw-in type
Memory card slots
2 SD slots
2 SD slots
1 SD, 1 Compact Flash
Aperture control in live view/video
No
Yes
Yes
LCD
Fixed 3.2"
920,000 dots
Tilting 3.2"
1.2m dots
Fixed 3.2"
1.2m dots
Maximum framerate
6 fps
6.5 fps
5 fps
Movie Mode
1080p/30
1080p/60
1080p/60
Wi-Fi
Optional WU-1b
Internal
Optional WT-5A
Battery life (CIPA)
900 shots
1230 shots
1200 shots
Dimensions
141 x 113 x 82 mm
(5.6 x 4.4 x 3.2 in)
140.5 x 113 x 78mm (5.6 x 4.5 x 3.1 in)
146 x 123 x 82 mm
(5.8 x 4.9 x 3.3in)
Weight (with battery)
760 g (1.7 lb)
755 g (1.7 lb.)
880 g (1.9 lb.)
The D750 will be sold body only for $2299.95 or bundled with the AF-S Nikkor 24-120mm F4 VR from mid-October.
Bram boy
Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
Mark7829 wrote:
Has anybody heard from Canon? The new 750 blows away the best Canon (5D Mark IV). The dynamic range and low light alone would shame Canon users. Glad I went Nikon.
(Okay - send me the hate mail)
I'm a nikon guy . and nothing is blowing anything away untel they run the
gauntlet Side by side . and even then the difference will be so small that it's going to take sensitive insterments to note the difference . even then it is not going to mean any thing in the grand scheme of things .
Bram boy wrote:
I'm a nikon guy . and nothing is blowing anything away untel they run the
gauntlet Side by side . and even then the difference will be so small that it's going to take sensitive insterments to note the difference . even then it is not going to mean any thing in the grand scheme of things .
Compare EVS 11.8 vs 14.8 that is three whole stops of light. Nikon D800 vs Canon 5D IV - superior detail in highlights and shadows - never mind the 12 MP difference in resolution These are not small differences.. they are incredibly singificant
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