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Part I Of Darwin's Doctrine Of Delusion Debunked
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Aug 28, 2014 22:32:05   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
This is your fairy tale, not mine. I really don't know why somebody would not go where he has an audience. Nutty bible thumpers...

Racmanaz wrote:
I know you would love nothing better than to censor a Christian point of view. You have a choice to NOT click on my posts and to NOT comment if it's not your cup of tea. Why do you feel the need to keep commenting if you do not agree and why should I stop, because you want me to? Not on your life, I will continue as long as I please, and you still have a choice to ignore my posts. How about we save time and you just decide to not respond to my posts?? I never go to any posts on any website and click on it if the title includes "evolution" or and anti-Christian bias.

I have not argument, I have posts to encourage those the want it and are open to it. It is YOU that have started this argument by responding. If you do not like it then read something else that pleases you. One thing, my posts is NEVER about religion as you keep accusing me of, it's about God and His creation not religion. Another error you have commented on, I am not a new convert at all....but I have a renewed dedication to my Lord. Sorry if you do not approve of my faith, that's my business not yours.

Please stop trying to tell me where to post, I will post anywhere I please as long as it's under Uglyhedgehogs terms of service and I will not violate this term. Maybe you need to grow up some and stop trying to control people, this just shows how insecure you are and that's not becoming of you. Anyways, God bless you and your family. :)
I know you would love nothing better than to censo... (show quote)

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Aug 28, 2014 22:34:43   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
dljen wrote:
This is your fairy tale, not mine. I really don't know why somebody would not go where he has an audience. Nutty bible thumpers...


Kind of like you are fairy tale monkey evolution thumping??? works both ways so stop making yourself look like a hypocrite. Go thump your Darwinism somewhere else :)

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Aug 28, 2014 22:55:41   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Kind of like you are fairy tale monkey evolution thumping??? works both ways so stop making yourself look like a hypocrite. Go thump your Darwinism somewhere else :)


You're right in one regard, between the two of us, there is one hypocrite but it isn't me.

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Aug 28, 2014 22:59:44   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
dljen wrote:
You're right in one regard, between the two of us, there is one hypocrite but it isn't me.


Yes that would be YOU, and you are now on ignore... Goodbye and God bless.

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Aug 29, 2014 00:23:22   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
I have already received a few emails about my posts with thanks and appreciation, so you are wrong. I'm not posting to convince anyone of anything, my purpose is to encourage those in faith and for those that are wanting and ready to hear the truth of God. If anyone is having doubts it would most likely be those that continue to post comments with opposing views over and over again on each of my posts. You say I will not change anyone's mind one iota, are your continual post opposing this view going to change anyone's mind? Then why are you trying to discourage me if you in your mind are doing the same exact thing??? :)
I have already received a few emails about my post... (show quote)


So, as I have asked several times. The earth and the universe supposedly was created in 6 days. On the 3rd day all the plants were created and on the 4th day the sun and the moon were created. If this is so, how could there be days before the sun and the moon were created. Any rational person knows that in order the have a day you must have a sunrise and sunset and a moon rise and a moon set. Any dictionary will say that a day is from sunrise to sunset and moon rise to moon set. So how do you explain this? I am anxiously awaiting your answer.

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Aug 29, 2014 00:27:21   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
wingincamera wrote:
I often wondered why some people who say they don't believe in a God the Creator feel so threaten by something they don't believe exists. If I stated I believed in a stone carving as a god, most would just laugh or feel sorry for me, but they wouldn't feel threaten by my beliefs.

When I see a post about something I either don't believe in or have no interest in, I just skip it. I have a delete key on the keyboard.

But those who die in the lord will live; their bodies will rise again! Those who sleep in the earth will rise up and sing for joy! For your life-giving light will fall like dew on your people in the place of the dead! Isaiah 26:19
I often wondered why some people who say they don'... (show quote)


The problem is the bible thumpers that constantly try to force their beliefs on everybody. They even have missionaries that go to un developed countries trying to "spread the word" to those poor unfortunates that are happy living their lives without "the word" and in the process completely destroy indigenous systems.

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Aug 29, 2014 04:19:38   #
Bazamac Loc: Manchester, UK
 
silver wrote:
So, as I have asked several times. The earth and the universe supposedly was created in 6 days. On the 3rd day all the plants were created and on the 4th day the sun and the moon were created. If this is so, how could there be days before the sun and the moon were created. Any rational person knows that in order the have a day you must have a sunrise and sunset and a moon rise and a moon set. Any dictionary will say that a day is from sunrise to sunset and moon rise to moon set. So how do you explain this? I am anxiously awaiting your answer.
So, as I have asked several times. The earth and t... (show quote)


You'll never get an answer from Racmanaz to that sort of question. You know, the thought out, well argued, logical sort.

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Aug 29, 2014 04:34:51   #
Bazamac Loc: Manchester, UK
 
Racmanaz wrote:
I know you would love nothing better than to censor a Christian point of view. You have a choice to NOT click on my posts and to NOT comment if it's not your cup of tea. Why do you feel the need to keep commenting if you do not agree and why should I stop, because you want me to? Not on your life, I will continue as long as I please, and you still have a choice to ignore my posts. How about we save time and you just decide to not respond to my posts?? I never go to any posts on any website and click on it if the title includes "evolution" or and anti-Christian bias.

I have not argument, I have posts to encourage those the want it and are open to it. It is YOU that have started this argument by responding. If you do not like it then read something else that pleases you. One thing, my posts is NEVER about religion as you keep accusing me of, it's about God and His creation not religion. Another error you have commented on, I am not a new convert at all....but I have a renewed dedication to my Lord. Sorry if you do not approve of my faith, that's my business not yours.

Please stop trying to tell me where to post, I will post anywhere I please as long as it's under Uglyhedgehogs terms of service and I will not violate this term. Maybe you need to grow up some and stop trying to control people, this just shows how insecure you are and that's not becoming of you. Anyways, God bless you and your family. :)
I know you would love nothing better than to censo... (show quote)


The man complains about people trying to censor Christians or telling him where to post, but heads some of his threads with "this is not for debate and negative comments". He also says you shouldn't open or respond to his posts but complains about others trying to control him. And where he does back up his original posts (culled from creationist websites) it is usually in a puerile fashion,but he tells you to "grow up". Hypocrisy doesn't even get it started.

Racmanaz, you claim that your posts are about god, but they aren't really. What they are about is trying to rubbish science. Well, not all science, just the science that proves that the biblical account of creation is complete nonsense. And I've noticed that you pretty much give up once someone takes the trouble to point out, and evidence, where these videos go so wrong.

The reason that some people mention alternative places to post is not to try and control you. You do, of course, have the right to post wherever you like. I suspect, though, that people feel you are being dishonest, or at least disingenuous in your stated motives.

You say that you are only trying to reach others who share your faith in the hope of helping them to strengthen and deepen it. That would sound more convincing if you posted on a Christian website. The fact that you choose (as is your right) to post here suggests that it might be about something more than that. Being provocative, perhaps?

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Aug 29, 2014 05:10:15   #
terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii
 
and your point is...just to attack him
Gnslngr wrote:
Racmanaz keeps posting, keeps screaming, that he has proof of the make-believe god, that evolution is wrong, etc.

He says nothing, posts nothing, about, say, gravity. He knows gravity exists. He doesn't need to prove it to himself. He doesn't know about evolution and make-believe gods. He doubts those beliefs, so he continually posts about them.

He posts about them because he doesn't believe.

I don't either, but I'm okay with it.

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Aug 29, 2014 11:32:16   #
LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley
 
Bazamac wrote:
The man complains about people trying to censor Christians or telling him where to post, but heads some of his threads with "this is not for debate and negative comments". He also says you shouldn't open or respond to his posts but complains about others trying to control him. And where he does back up his original posts (culled from creationist websites) it is usually in a puerile fashion,but he tells you to "grow up". Hypocrisy doesn't even get it started.

Racmanaz, you claim that your posts are about god, but they aren't really. What they are about is trying to rubbish science. Well, not all science, just the science that proves that the biblical account of creation is complete nonsense. And I've noticed that you pretty much give up once someone takes the trouble to point out, and evidence, where these videos go so wrong.

The reason that some people mention alternative places to post is not to try and control you. You do, of course, have the right to post wherever you like. I suspect, though, that people feel you are being dishonest, or at least disingenuous in your stated motives.

You say that you are only trying to reach others who share your faith in the hope of helping them to strengthen and deepen it. That would sound more convincing if you posted on a Christian website. The fact that you choose (as is your right) to post here suggests that it might be about something more than that. Being provocative, perhaps?
The man complains about people trying to censor Ch... (show quote)


Bazamac, I find your passionate opposition to Racmanaz very curious.

If it's true that you believe God does not exist and that the creation "fairy tale" has no credibility why do you oppose him so vehemently?

It appears that you feel threatened and that you are attempting to discredit him thereby validating his argument all the more.

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Aug 29, 2014 12:21:52   #
randomeyes Loc: wilds of b.c. canada
 
Bazamac wrote:
You'll never get an answer from Racmanaz to that sort of question. You know, the thought out, well argued, logical sort.





Your are 100% correct with this "link master troll". This fellow does not have an original thought in his head. His way of "presenting" things is to always post a link of someone else's opinions.

The best way to deal with this vacuous individual is to ignore him, not respond to his postings.
He will soon get tired of the obsequious responses to his threads by the sycophants.

A troll cannot live without food.
I for one am moving on.
I cannot waste anymore time trying to decipher gibberish.

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Aug 29, 2014 12:37:27   #
Bazamac Loc: Manchester, UK
 
LarJgrip wrote:
Bazamac, I find your passionate opposition to Racmanaz very curious.

If it's true that you believe God does not exist and that the creation "fairy tale" has no credibility why do you oppose him so vehemently?

It appears that you feel threatened and that you are attempting to discredit him thereby validating his argument all the more.


Yes, well as an apparent believer yourself, I guess you might see it that way. My "passion" is for science and it's use to discover the nature of the universe. It's true that I am an atheist and I do have issues with religion, particularly organised religion, but my opposition to the ideas that Racmanaz keeps promoting are much more to do with the fact that they are basically bad science. All I am seeking to do is to pint that out.

I find Racmanaz himself more as a source of amusement than anything, certainly not a threat. And I really don't agree that pointing about the many, many flaws in the videos and articles he posts does anything to validate them.

If I make personal comments about him it's usually because of the quality (or lack of) his posts, his tendency to launch personal attacks on anyone who doesn't agree with him, his refusal to listen to anything that contradicts his narrow world view and his attempts to stop others from posting. I probably shouldn't, but sometimes I can't help myself!

And if I can correct one thing you said. I prefer to say that I do have not seen any good evidence to support the hypothesis that a god or gods exist rather than that I do not believe there is a god. As a supporter of science I try not to do too much "believing", unless it's backed up by evidence.

Hope that clarifies my position for you.

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Aug 29, 2014 13:20:40   #
LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley
 
Bazamac wrote:
Yes, well as an apparent believer yourself, I guess you might see it that way. My "passion" is for science and it's use to discover the nature of the universe. It's true that I am an atheist and I do have issues with religion, particularly organised religion, but my opposition to the ideas that Racmanaz keeps promoting are much more to do with the fact that they are basically bad science. All I am seeking to do is to pint that out.

I find Racmanaz himself more as a source of amusement than anything, certainly not a threat. And I really don't agree that pointing about the many, many flaws in the videos and articles he posts does anything to validate them.

If I make personal comments about him it's usually because of the quality (or lack of) his posts, his tendency to launch personal attacks on anyone who doesn't agree with him, his refusal to listen to anything that contradicts his narrow world view and his attempts to stop others from posting. I shouldn't ,but sometimes I can't help myself!

And if I can correct one thing you said. I prefer to say that I do have not seen any good evidence to support the hypothesis that a god or gods exist rather than that I do not believe there is a god. As a supporter of science I try not to do too much "believing", unless it's backed up by evidence.

Hope that clarifies my position for you.
Yes, well as an apparent believer yourself, I gues... (show quote)


Not really. For me it still begs the question, why oppose nonsense so urgently because as you stated:

Bazamac wrote:
I shouldn't ,but sometimes I can't help myself!


Perhaps you could get some help.

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Aug 29, 2014 13:27:49   #
Bazamac Loc: Manchester, UK
 
LarJgrip wrote:
Perhaps you could get some help.


Oh dear. That comment about not being able to help myself was a light hearted one, specifically referring to the more personal comments. Which should have been pretty clear from the paragraph structure of what I wrote.

And no, I don't need help, thank you.

You have, of course, completely ignored the rest of my reply. Why oppose nonsense? Because a frightening number of people actually believe this creationist garbage. Because it's not just nonsense, it's mendacious dishonesty. Because what I'm actually trying to do is promote a scientific, evidence-based approach to these things. Those seem pretty good reasons to me.

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Aug 29, 2014 13:42:06   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
So, Razmatazz, another lukewarm, steaming bowlful of tasteless garbage.

And I suppose you contend that all of THIS was "created" in a day or two, six thousand years ago?

Stuck on stupid.



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