NeilL
Loc: British-born Canadian
Twardlow wrote:
First of all, I edited my post, but the Hog showed both versions. I stand behind the second.
You know exactly what you are talking about?
You are talking about the intentions in Holders head! You are talking about how many agents should be in Ferguson!
You Know he is a race baiter? And you Know Obama is too?
And you Know what he is going to say before he says it?
And you Know he doesn't mean it?
And there's more, but I won't bother with it.
But--and this is the important part-- your opinion does not equal mine. My opinion may be wrong, but is informed, based on the best information I can find.
Your opinion is emotional flailing of reading other peoples minds and intentions, and vistas of what you want to be true.
I don't mean to be harsh, but please try to recognize what I'm saying.
This is important stuff.
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And why is YOUR opinion more important? Yours is based on misinformation, and Dennis's is from a white guy. You wear your racism on your sleeve. Now click on Letmedance's link above.
boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
zonedoc wrote:
According to his report, the cop told the victim to get the f**k on the sidewalk. Since the victim didn't comply with this order the cop drew his gun and shot him. Is this a legitimate use of deadly force? Was the "get the f**k on the sidewalk a reasonable police "request"? The cigar robbery did not figure in this incident untill the Chief of Police produced several days after the shooting.
According to whose report? There are eyewitness reports saying contradictory things. Do you actually think that any cop would shoot any one for not getting on the sidewalk? And do that in front of witnesses. If you really believe that I suggest you see some one about your paranoia
NeilL wrote:
And why is YOUR opinion more important? Yours is based on misinformation, and Dennis's is from a white guy. You wear your racism on your sleeve. Now click on Letmedance's link above.
I said why my opinion is more important, Can you read?
An informed opinion, even if it has to be modified as new information appears, is still better than emotional ravings and name calling.
I said it before, and I stand by it.
NeilL
Loc: British-born Canadian
Twardlow wrote:
I said why my opinion is more important, Can you read?
An informed opinion, even if it has to be modified as new information appears, is still better than emotional ravings and name calling.
I said it before, and I stand by it.
You gave no VALID reason.
Twardlow wrote:
I must ask if you are inside Holder's head, that you know his intentions better than he does?
And, are you the one who decides whether Holder goes or sends an assistant?
I think he can decide that for himself, thank you.
Now, Holder IS investigating a Federal crime, a violation of the Federal Civil Rights law.
And, I think he can decide how many agents need to be where; that's his job.
But, I'm sure he is happy to get your advice, now that you have your law degree.
And, he appreciates a nice demonstration of what happens when someone goes off half-cocked.
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Where's his investigation of the IRS?
Blurryeyed wrote:
Where's his investigation of the IRS?
What's that got to do with anything?
NeilL wrote:
You gave no VALID reason.
You're not capable of getting it; let's stop.
Twardlow wrote:
What's that got to do with anything?
It goes to Holder's prejudice, he is very selective in his prosecution and allocation of resources.
NeilL
Loc: British-born Canadian
Twardlow wrote:
You're not capable of getting it; let's stop.
Watch the Johnathan Gentry rant posted today on the "New wrinkle in....". He's looking you in the eye. He seems to have hit the nail on the head.
dennis2146 wrote:
I think you are forgetting the part about Michael Brown attacking the officer as he was getting out of his vehicle. Your version sounds a little like outright murder which it certainly isn't.
One of the witnesses to the incident seems to be the same man who was with Michael Brown in the store. I am not saying he was lying but to offer a different version of the incident seems has the likelihood of helping HIM in the end.
I don't know the size of the officer but I am about 5-7. When I was a street cop if someone the size of Michael Brown was to rush me after already having punched me as I got out of my vehicle I guarantee I would do exactly as the officer did. I would have shot to stop his attack. Try to remember police officers are not paid enough to get beaten up by anybody, criminal or not. Officers have as much right to go home to their family without gunshot/stab wounds, bumps and bruises as the rest of the population. People sometimes tend to think police are supposed to just accept abuse. Not so.
Dennis
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I agree....
Assault of a Police Officer is a serious matter, and the core of our Society and the wall from Tyranny.
Every Police Officer on Patrol is all Eyes, Ears and wears a cloth of Suspicion for his own safety and that of the Community He/She serves. Thus anyone acting suspicious or nervous is certainly a signal to an alert Officer to beware and investigate, including question anyone.
At one time their was a report used called a "Field Interrogation Card" that Officer's filled out on anyone they spoke with due to their suspicions, i.e. 2am someone driving around in a Warehouse with their lights off, etc., etc..
I know all this because of the fact I once held a State Police Officer Certification, had extensive Police Training and Experience.
and no at age 74, I am not a fxxxxg Bad Cop!@!
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NeilL wrote:
Watch the Johnathan Gentry rant posted today on the "New wrinkle in....". He's looking you in the eye. He seems to have hit the nail on the head.
I don't know what 'New Wrinkle in...' is.
zonedoc wrote:
According to his report, the cop told the victim to get the f**k on the sidewalk. Since the victim didn't comply with this order the cop drew his gun and shot him. Is this a legitimate use of deadly force? Was the "get the f**k on the sidewalk a reasonable police "request"? The cigar robbery did not figure in this incident untill the Chief of Police produced several days after the shooting.
That is no way to start an interaction. After that start, there was no way things could end without hostility. It was going to turn out bad, though no one had any idea how bad it would be.
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Jackinthebox wrote:
The cigar robbery does figure in this incident. It shows clearly that this is a person who would assault any one including a police officer. It will certainly be permitted in court and should be part of the disclosure to the mob demanding the officers name.
disagree, disagree, and disagree. we'll see.
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