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Jul 17, 2014 13:48:33   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
dljen wrote:
Stalking isn't against the rules.


This thread is not about stalking! Please try to stay on message.

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Jul 17, 2014 13:54:21   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
idaholover wrote:
This thread is not about stalking! Please try to stay on message.


Are you hi-jacking another thread? What is this, something like 11 posts? I warned Cat and was asked a question and answered it, I suggest you mind your own business.

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Jul 17, 2014 13:54:26   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
dljen wrote:
Stalking isn't against the rules.


I wouldn't worry about it. The personal intent of debate is the crafting of a cogent argument based on one's perception of facts. It does not matter in the least if the response is name calling or other childish retorts, because these only betray the lack of creativity or intelligence on the part of the opponent, and are obvious to all.

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Jul 17, 2014 14:03:13   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
dljen wrote:
Are you hi-jacking another thread? What is this, something like 11 posts? I warned Cat and was asked a question and answered it, I suggest you mind your own business.


I am minding my own business! You don't own this thread. My post to you is nothing any different than those I have received from you many times! Start a topic on stalking or stick with the topic. Besides you don't read anything I post, remember?

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Jul 17, 2014 14:05:09   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
idaholover wrote:
I am minding my own business! You don't own this thread. My post to you is nothing any different than those I have received from you many times! Start a topic on stalking or stick with the topic.


Let me intervene here. If Donna wants to veer off into the weeds, she should be allowed.

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Jul 17, 2014 14:05:25   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
CatMarley wrote:
I wouldn't worry about it. The personal intent of debate is the crafting of a cogent argument based on one's perception of facts. It does not matter in the least if the response is name calling or other childish retorts, because these only betray the lack of creativity or intelligence on the part of the opponent, and are obvious to all.


Agreed.

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Jul 17, 2014 14:05:45   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
dljen wrote:
Nobody *knows* for sure what happened, word is coming in every minute but right away you jump into blaming the president. I realize your children have chosen to be in the military but don't you think that their leaders would have a huge impact on how big the military is? Even the neocon, McCain wasn't ready to jump to conclusions. You were.

I heard that US airlines were forbidden by the FAA to fly over that space. If you're going to make a thread, why not supply facts? That would be better appreciated w/o the editorials.
Nobody *knows* for sure what happened, word is com... (show quote)


It has become quite clear that it was the separatists who are comprised of Russian special forces as well as local militias who were using missiles supplied to them by Russia, the plane was at 33,000 ft when hit, that is not your backyard variety type missile and the separatists are confirming that they shot down a plane on social media...

What is funny is that currently a State Department meeting going on right now in which the State Department is playing a game of cat and mouse doing everything they possibly can to not answer the press's questions.

Apparently the press has gotten a hold of the flight manifest which lists 23 American citizens aboard the flight but the State Department will not confirm that any Americans were aboard... Now are we supposed to believe that the State Department does not have the manifest?

Typical culture of the Obama Government, the American people are better off left in the dark.

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Jul 17, 2014 14:18:10   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
Blurryeyed wrote:


Typical culture of the Obama Government, the American people are better off left in the dark.


Do you think it is because the OB government thinks we are ignorant little children that need to be protected from these ugly facts, lest we be upset? It reminds me of the chapter from Dostoyevsky's "Brothers Karamazov "- the conversation between Christ and the Grand Inquisitor in Ivan's dream.

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Jul 17, 2014 14:18:15   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
CatMarley wrote:
Let me intervene here. If Donna wants to veer off into the weeds, she should be allowed.

Fair enough. This is your topic and the content should be at your pleasure!

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Jul 17, 2014 14:25:41   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
It has become quite clear that it was the separatists who are comprised of Russian special forces as well as local militias who were using missiles supplied to them by Russia, the plane was at 33,000 ft when hit, that is not your backyard variety type missile and the separatists are confirming that they shot down a plane on social media...

What is funny is that currently a State Department meeting going on right now in which the State Department is playing a game of cat and mouse doing everything they possibly can to not answer the press's questions.

Apparently the press has gotten a hold of the flight manifest which lists 23 American citizens aboard the flight but the State Department will not confirm that any Americans were aboard... Now are we supposed to believe that the State Department does not have the manifest?

Typical culture of the Obama Government, the American people are better off left in the dark.
It has become quite clear that it was the separati... (show quote)


Unfortunately this issue, like most of the the other international disasters, has Obama's finger prints, along with many others, all over it. He has taken his Alinsky agenda to the international level. Heaven help the world should this cretin ever become Secretary General of the United Nations and with his ego it will be tried, don't doubt me!
By this issue I mean the whole Ukraine cacophony not just the plane being shot down.

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Jul 17, 2014 14:32:35   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
CatMarley wrote:
Let me intervene here. If Donna wants to veer off into the weeds, she should be allowed.


Thank you, Cat.

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Jul 17, 2014 14:37:00   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Interesting take on this from a lady caller on Rush just now. Suggests it could have been Chechens. Hmm!
If it is they may take credit for it like a good jihadist would.

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Jul 17, 2014 14:39:59   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
Well we will never know now whodoneit! The Separatists have the black box, and despite an earlier claim by the leadership that they shot down a plane, they are now denying it - everyone is denying it. The Black box will not be going to Kiev, but to Moscow, so we can forget about ever getting the truth! But it really doesn't matter. Whoever used that equipment to shoot down an airliner at 33,000 feet, was technically proficient in the use of Russian military antiaircraft missiles. Which in turn means Russian trained personnel, which means Russian military! Whatever anybody says, we know whodoneit.

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Jul 17, 2014 14:41:13   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Obama just said it looks like it COULD be a terrible tragedy and then went off to tell jokes! Even Piers Morgan was disgusted!

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Jul 17, 2014 14:45:06   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
CatMarley wrote:
Well we will never know now whodoneit! The Separatists have the black box, and despite an earlier claim by the leadership that they shot down a plane, they are now denying it - everyone is denying it. The Black box will not be going to Kiev, but to Moscow, so we can forget about ever getting the truth! But it really doesn't matter. Whoever used that equipment to shoot down an airliner at 33,000 feet, was technically proficient in the use of Russian military antiaircraft missiles. Which in turn means Russian trained personnel, which means Russian military! Whatever anybody says, we know whodunit.
Well we will never know now whodoneit! The Separat... (show quote)

Go easy on me here. I just finished with the last season of 24, Jack Bower is still in my head especially since the Russians once again have him and will torture him for as long as it takes to get a new series up and running! :lol: :roll:

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