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May 14, 2014 09:02:37   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
dsmeltz wrote:
I tried that, but I kept cutting my face. Maybe mirrorless and a safety razor. What do you think, should I upgrade to the Gillette Fusion ProGlide? :wink:

But if it is an all around camera for a variety of needs in an APS-C DSLR, 70D all the way.


I definitely recommend the ProGlide, but stick with the mirror, or at least post some photos if you don't! :D

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May 14, 2014 09:03:24   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
I think you need to spend your time reading and studing how to do photography and do it with what you have and that will give you more of an idea of what would be best for you. I will pitch the Nikon D7100 - One of your concerns was cold look to Nikon's pictures. The D7100 has to Auto white balance settings the 2nd one is warmer. You could check with the other models too. The other is that the D7100 (and the full frame) have a motor for auto focus. That way you can buy older lenses at super prices used. Just My Not So Humble Opinion. - Dave

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May 14, 2014 09:05:38   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
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May 14, 2014 09:12:05   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
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May 14, 2014 09:29:47   #
plumgecko
 
Can't argue with success and experience!

plumgecko

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May 14, 2014 09:58:21   #
haroldross Loc: Walthill, Nebraska
 
You are in a great position to choose your next camera. The lens on your 30D is mediocre to say the least (works great on older camera bodies but not so good on the newer bodies) so there is no real investment in lens.

Go to a camera store and check out what is available. Handle the different cameras, get a feel for the controls, check out the menus, and remember that you are buying into a 'system' and not just a camera and lens.

Canon, Nikon, Sony, Pentax, and others all make good camera systems. I choose the Canon line years ago when I got the Digital Rebel 300D and have stayed with them. The T5i, 70D and 6D are all good options if you are into 'general' photography. I would determine a starting budget and get the best body and good lens within that budget. A T5i with a good lens will be better than a 70D with an average lens. The fullframe 6D is a good general purpose camera. I would not be concerned about the 'limited' autofocus system or the slower frames per second on the 6D. The center AF point works very well, coming from the 30D, the AF will be simply amazing. The low light performance of the 6D, again is amazing compared to the older cameras. I think that the 6D is a good camera for the hobbyists who want to have a full frame camera.

The other companies also have great cameras to offer so don't neglect to check them out.

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May 14, 2014 10:02:21   #
craggycrossers Loc: Robin Hood Country, UK
 
rthompson10 wrote:
You people are killing me! -My first post on this informative site
I WANT to upgrade my Canon 30D. Have taken some decent pictures with the kit lens(18-55) as the only lens but now want to make photography a serious hobby. So major analysis paralysis after doing lots of reading on here and other sites.
My thoughts so far,,,,and by the way want to buy by this weekend as Canon has some rebates IF I go Canon.
So the choices so far are Canon 70D, Canon 6D, maybe even Nikon 7100 or 610(have a flavor of Canon camera for over thirty years- causing me to be a little shaky :) )
Of course your going to ask me what I'm going to shoot- Answer a little of everything. Most of my thousands of pix are people at parties, travel photos, informal event photos- weddings, proms. I'd like to play around with sports photography as there are lots of kids in the 'hood who play sports
Here is what my reading is telling me- While I'd like to plunge into a full frame budget is an issue. On the Canon side the 6D probably isn't best for sports- low FPS, and I need to see the focusing in action.
Concerned about Nikon on 2 fronts- one quality issues on 610- dust on sensor? and then concerned with how people look vs Canon- a bit "cooler", not as warm?
Going to camera store today to touch and feel and maybe rent. Again too much reading, not enough doing.
Gut lean right now is 70D but with an EF lens in case I go FF in future. Do need to touch, play with Nikon.
Or punt, keep the 30D and get better glass plus off camera flash. Or....
I apologize for my on-line brainstorming- losing sleep over-analyzing. Any thoughts would be appreciated
RT
You people are killing me! -My first post on this ... (show quote)


My tuppenceworth ....... think USED Nikon D700. Read about it here :

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond700/

http://www.bythom.com/nikond700review.htm

http://blog.mingthein.com/2012/03/25/long-term-review-the-nikon-d700/

http://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-d700

Look on eBay or ASK about availability on the members buy/sell/trade section here. People are selling their D700's now. There are some good bargains to be had.

Lenses - you can get all 3 used if you really try ...... Nikkor AF-S 28mm f1.8G, AF-S 50mm f1.8G, AF-S 85mm f1.8G

Buy well and you'll have a great camera and 3 lenses that'll give you a lot of versatility in terms of usage, be great in low light if and when necessary, and last you for some considerable time to come.

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May 14, 2014 10:35:49   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
rthompson10 wrote:
You people are killing me! -My first post on this informative site
I WANT to upgrade my Canon 30D. Have taken some decent pictures with the kit lens(18-55) as the only lens but now want to make photography a serious hobby.
RT


Since you have very little invested in equipment you have no reason not to switch to a mirrorless system.

My suggestion would be Fuji XT-1.

With new technology ,except for certain situations, the need for a mirror in a camera has been eliminated.

Since you can start from scratch why not start with a system that is as up to date as possible.

Canon and Nikon, in my opinion, are not offering a serious mirrorless camera. They have had for a long time loyal followers of their SLR cameras.

Sony has a full frame mirrorless.

You will hear that lenses are limited for these cameras; however how many lenses will you buy at a time.

Get a good body and a good lens. When you have learned to get the full potential from that lens, you won't have to ask what lens you need next, you will know.

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May 15, 2014 05:47:36   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
rthompson10 wrote:
You people are killing me! -My first post on this informative site
I WANT to upgrade my Canon 30D. Have taken some decent pictures with the kit lens(18-55) as the only lens but now want to make photography a serious hobby. So major analysis paralysis after doing lots of reading on here and other sites.
My thoughts so far,,,,and by the way want to buy by this weekend as Canon has some rebates IF I go Canon.
So the choices so far are Canon 70D, Canon 6D, maybe even Nikon 7100 or 610(have a flavor of Canon camera for over thirty years- causing me to be a little shaky :) )
Of course your going to ask me what I'm going to shoot- Answer a little of everything. Most of my thousands of pix are people at parties, travel photos, informal event photos- weddings, proms. I'd like to play around with sports photography as there are lots of kids in the 'hood who play sports
Here is what my reading is telling me- While I'd like to plunge into a full frame budget is an issue. On the Canon side the 6D probably isn't best for sports- low FPS, and I need to see the focusing in action.
Concerned about Nikon on 2 fronts- one quality issues on 610- dust on sensor? and then concerned with how people look vs Canon- a bit "cooler", not as warm?
Going to camera store today to touch and feel and maybe rent. Again too much reading, not enough doing.
Gut lean right now is 70D but with an EF lens in case I go FF in future. Do need to touch, play with Nikon.
Or punt, keep the 30D and get better glass plus off camera flash. Or....
I apologize for my on-line brainstorming- losing sleep over-analyzing. Any thoughts would be appreciated
RT
You people are killing me! -My first post on this ... (show quote)


All of your options are perfectly valid - sensor grime is no longer an issue for either the D600 or the D610, nor are the light leaks that appeared in the 5D Mk III.

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May 15, 2014 06:51:18   #
buddah17 Loc: The Bahamas
 
I have a 70D as well. Presently I am taking photo courses at a college, and just yesterday the professor made a very good point. You can buy Canon Nikon, (etc..etc..) And they ALL have good reasons to buy them. BUT the final image quality, (un-doctored) has a LOT to do with the quality of the lenses. (Which is why I am glad that I chose the Canon line..)
And remember that famous line, "It's NOT the camera, but the a**^*^e behind it!!!"
If you REALLY want to overanalyze, check out the Lytro camera that allows you to "refocus parts of the scene" AFTER you took the photograph..


RegisG wrote:
Love my 70D but, chose the same path as you're thinking with the lens. My deciding factor was that I don't do portraits and the 6D would be better for that. I like outdoors and think that alonge with dabbling in short video pushed me to my 70D

Best of luck and as far as I know/read, all of your choices are great!

RegisG

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May 15, 2014 07:02:01   #
ocbeyer Loc: Baltimore
 
Semi punt; go with a used 40D. The IQ is as good as the 30D, better than the 50D (and arguably the 60D), the upgrades are worthwhile and you are already familiar with the controls and it uses the same long lasting batteries you have. Built like a tank. Shutter is made for 100K clicks and many for sale have used just a fraction of that.With the money you save you can invest in some very nice glass (although contrary to what was said your 18-55 is a good lens, to this day). Keep your 30D as back up or a second camera mounting a different lens.

I seriously doubt that anyone can take better pictures with newer equipment, unless they need video, art filters or want to make posters. (Though I've seen great posters shot with 30 and 40Ds)

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May 15, 2014 07:12:22   #
phlash46 Loc: Westchester County, New York
 
What is it that the current camera cannot do that you need? Make a list of IMPORTANT things and then find a crop sensor Canon that fits the bill. You needn't go full frame to get a terrific camera. If the list isn't terribly long, or, you cannot think of much, then keep the current body (still a very good camera) and buy better glass. The 24-105 is a fine lens; so is the 70-200 (the f/4 may be plenty for you if you shoot mostly in daytime).

I've been a Nikon shooter for over 30 years, but, Canon makes perfectly good equipment as well. Why relearn controls at this point?

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May 15, 2014 07:15:12   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
rthompson10 wrote:
You people are killing me! -My first post on this informative site
I WANT to upgrade my Canon 30D. Have taken some decent pictures with the kit lens(18-55) as the only lens but now want to make photography a serious hobby. So major analysis paralysis after doing lots of reading on here and other sites.

I apologize for my on-line brainstorming- losing sleep over-analyzing. Any thoughts would be appreciated
RT

All I can say is, "Welcome to our forum!"

I'm sure you'll get an assortment of conflicting answers. Good luck!

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May 15, 2014 07:30:04   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
ptcanon3ti wrote:
I'm a Canon user and honestly if I going to start over I'd go FULL FRAME and go NIKON. Get the D610....better sensor than anything Canon offers. Shoot raw...problem solved on the "coolness" of people.


The D610 does not have a "better" sensor than anything Canon offers. It has a very good sensor that is very well-mated to its imaging software. Canon's are also very good, and well-mated to their imaging software. Don't be led solely by resolution measurements taken in a laboratory, because there are many other factors that affect a picture. Go to a store and look at what's available, and if you're upgrading to full-frame, then both Canon and Nikon will serve you well (6D and D610, respectively). If you're staying with APS-sized sensors, then it'll be 70D and D7100, respectively. Good luck, and there is not a bad decision in the bunch! Those cameras all will totally outperform what you have now, and will push your abilities to their creative limits, I'm sure. ;) :D

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May 15, 2014 07:34:36   #
buddah17 Loc: The Bahamas
 
By the way.. Going to class soon. We will be shooting photos in Downtown Miami, PROCESSING B&W negatives and then choosing images to PRINT ON AN ENLARGER..
Film is making a comeback... !!!

buddah17 wrote:
I have a 70D as well. Presently I am taking photo courses at a college, and just yesterday the professor made a very good point. You can buy Canon Nikon, (etc..etc..) And they ALL have good reasons to buy them. BUT the final image quality, (un-doctored) has a LOT to do with the quality of the lenses. (Which is why I am glad that I chose the Canon line..)
And remember that famous line, "It's NOT the camera, but the a**^*^e behind it!!!"
If you REALLY want to overanalyze, check out the Lytro camera that allows you to "refocus parts of the scene" AFTER you took the photograph..
I have a 70D as well. Presently I am taking photo ... (show quote)

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