rolf Loc: Kenora Ont.Canada

By today's standards, none of us were supposed to ever make it past High School.

HIGH SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2013

Scenario 1:
Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2013 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario 2:
Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2013 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it .

Scenario 3:
Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2013 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The family gets extra money (SSI) from the government because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario 4:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.
2013 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse, Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused (spanked) herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.

Scenario 5:
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock .
2013 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.




Scenario 7:
Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2013 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents - and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario 8:
Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2013- Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

Picdude Loc: Ohio

I'd say most are pretty accurate.

True story:

In 1977, one of my High School teachers was an armature gunsmith. My dad had an old German 7.65mm semi-auto handgun that we wondered if would still fire. When I mentioned it to my teacher, he said to bring it in the next day and he would check it out. The next morning I handed him the pistol wrapped in a towel. He took it home, checked it out, brought it back a couple days later and at the end of the day handed me back the pistol and said there were no defects that he could find to keep it from firing. Then he told me that 7.65mm was the same cartridge as .32 auto and handed me a brown bag with 100 rounds of .32 auto ammunition for the gun.

NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian

Corporal punishment is sadly lacking from our society today. If we publicly flogged violent criminals, with the promise that repeat offenders would get even worse the next time, I bet recidivism would be near zero.

HEART Loc: God's Country - COLORADO

Don't ya just love happy endings! :thumbup: Life, as it should be. :) :)

HEART Loc: God's Country - COLORADO

Thanks for the reality check of schools today. Just had a discussion with one of my daughters about our grandchild. She and her husband have already said that the grandson will either be home-schooled, or in a charter school. Don't know who will be left in public schools in another decade.

tschmath Loc: Los Angeles

Kinda like the death penalty being a deterrent. Yeah, right. Yours is one of the stupidest ideas I've heard in quite a while.

NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian

Where's your answer? You're so judgmental and you don't voice an opinion? That makes you the idiot.

tschmath Loc: Los Angeles

I'm smart enough to know that I don't have an answer that makes sense. It's too complex an issue to offer mindless platitudes and simplistic idiotic solutions, so I don't.

NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian

Your answer would go like this:-
"You don't understand. It's all his/her mother's fault. He/she didn't have a father and we must blame society and blame Christianity. You have tell these people, "Please don't murder or rape again, it isn't very nice. Now run off and have a nice day."
Our bleeding-heart, small-ell liberal socialists who run the penal system have been treating criminals this way for far too long. Most violence is perpetrated by cowards. Cowards love to bully but hate pain, so make it hurt.
As I said: "Recidivism will drop."

Photographer Jim Loc: Rio Vista, CA

As someone who taught in a public high school for 34 years (retiring in 2009) all I can say is that the amount of hyperbole in these 2013 scenarios is staggering. While there are certainly instances appearing in the news where over zealous principals, staff, or school boards act in extreme ways, the examples posted are far from accurate depictions of how things are generally handled in a modern high school. They certainly don't reflect the observations of someone who has much first hand knowledge.

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

When my son was in grade school( had to be about 1980, he got into a foght at the school yard. My wife got a call from the principal about it. He said that it was just a schoolyard scuffle and niether kid got hurt badly. When I got home from work she told me about the fight. I took my son aside and asked him only 1 question. Did you win?

NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian

:thumbup:

bobbear777 Loc: New Jersey

Far fetched! I think not! I remember my buddy and I walking to school with our shotguns we wound put them in the vestment closet in the church and go to class. After class we met up with Father Kevin and his dog and we would go hunting. Last year during a locker check a miniature leatherman was found in my son's backpack. Even thought the knife blade on the mini leatherman is less than three quarters of an inch, the idiot principal pressed weapon charges against my son. It cost several thousand dollars for the lawyer and we were very lucky to get an understanding judge. The case was thrown out of court.

Cragzop Loc: NYC

The future does not bode well.

Cragzop Loc: NYC

Sometimes "complex" issues call for simple solutions.