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Apr 14, 2014 20:27:46   #
Rosanna Loc: Montana
 
Can I get some help? I'm in awe of the photos I see of the Milky Way. I shot this using my Canon 5D III. Until I can afford it, all I have is the Canon 17-40 but would love to step up to something better, any suggestions? I've looked at the 16-35. Thanks.

Please, if there are suggestions, criticisms that would make this photo better, I'd love to know. Thank You again


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Apr 14, 2014 20:58:54   #
Straight Shooter Loc: Newfoundland, Canada
 
Looks pretty good to me, if a bit dark.

You might get more input if you gave details of what you did to get this.

As for a lens, a number of astrophotographers swear by the Rokinon 14mm Ultra Wide-Angle f/2.8 (fast & wide).

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Apr 14, 2014 21:07:49   #
Rosanna Loc: Montana
 
Thank You Straight Shooter - I shot with the Canon 5D III, Canon 17-40, shot at 17mm, f/4, 2500 iso, spot meter. I'd like to know what white balance is good for night time shots. I shoot RAW so I realize that part doesn't matter a whole lot but like to get things right in camera.

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Apr 14, 2014 22:10:52   #
Straight Shooter Loc: Newfoundland, Canada
 
As I said, it looks good. Focus seems fine. If you are shooting in RAW, try setting the white balance to tungsten and see what happens. It should give a nice celestial blue background, but that's pretty much what you have, so you may not see much difference. How long was the exposure? BTW, I'm no expert at this - like you, trying to find my way, and looking for pointers.

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Apr 15, 2014 00:52:08   #
Rosanna Loc: Montana
 
Usually shoot anywhere from 15-30 seconds

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Apr 15, 2014 04:21:24   #
RicknJude Loc: Quebec, Canada
 
After downloading it I just sat and stared. Wow, what a great shot. Certainly one to be proud of. :thumbup:

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Apr 15, 2014 08:48:42   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
The download looks great to me.

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Apr 15, 2014 11:12:15   #
Rosanna Loc: Montana
 
RicknJude wrote:
After downloading it I just sat and stared. Wow, what a great shot. Certainly one to be proud of. :thumbup:
Thank You RicknJude. Such kind remarks!

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Apr 15, 2014 11:13:30   #
Rosanna Loc: Montana
 
joehel2 wrote:
The download looks great to me.
Thank You joehel2.

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Apr 15, 2014 11:27:06   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
What was your shutter speed? Everything I've read says you should have your ISO as low as possible. It looks noisy down in the clouds but the color is great. Strike a balance between SS, ISO just to the point before you start to see trails.

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Apr 15, 2014 11:53:10   #
Rosanna Loc: Montana
 
The noise at the bottom bothers me too skylane. The shutter speed was 15 sec. I believe. When out I try all different kinds of settings and do not like any grain, that's why I'm questioning the lens, wondering if a better built lens would help. Thank you for your input.

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Apr 15, 2014 13:53:07   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
At 17mm, I think you could get to 20 sec or a bit more before you start to see trails. I don't know how much ISO would give you that extra 5 sec.
(I have a Tokina 11-16 2.8 on a UPS truck somewhere...)

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Apr 18, 2014 20:53:38   #
Algol Loc: Georgia
 
Northfork Walkabout wrote:
The noise at the bottom bothers me too skylane. The shutter speed was 15 sec. I believe. When out I try all different kinds of settings and do not like any grain, that's why I'm questioning the lens, wondering if a better built lens would help. Thank you for your input.
Noise is inherent on longer exposures as well and some chips/cameras have more noise than others. You can try stacking several exposures which reduces the noise a great deal, also take a dark frame (lens cap on and same exposure) and subtract it from the original, this helps get rid of any hot pixels that show up on longer exposures. Stacking multiple exposures will also blur the foreground, which is caused by the Earth's rotation, but the Milky Way will look much better. In addition, try lowering your ISO to 1600 and increasing your exposure to around 30 seconds might help. You can also open your lens up a bit more, try various settings and see what works. Exposure looks good as does the focus, keep up the good work and do not get discouraged. Astronomical photography is perhaps the most demanding of all the photography and you will always keep learning from the process.

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Apr 19, 2014 20:40:38   #
Rosanna Loc: Montana
 
skylane5sp wrote:
At 17mm, I think you could get to 20 sec or a bit more before you start to see trails. I don't know how much ISO would give you that extra 5 sec.
(I have a Tokina 11-16 2.8 on a UPS truck somewhere...)
Skylane, I'm real interested in knowing what you think of the Tokina!

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Apr 19, 2014 20:48:45   #
Rosanna Loc: Montana
 
Algol wrote:
Noise is inherent on longer exposures as well and some chips/cameras have more noise than others. You can try stacking several exposures which reduces the noise a great deal, also take a dark frame (lens cap on and same exposure) and subtract it from the original, this helps get rid of any hot pixels that show up on longer exposures. Stacking multiple exposures will also blur the foreground, which is caused by the Earth's rotation, but the Milky Way will look much better. In addition, try lowering your ISO to 1600 and increasing your exposure to around 30 seconds might help. You can also open your lens up a bit more, try various settings and see what works. Exposure looks good as does the focus, keep up the good work and do not get discouraged. Astronomical photography is perhaps the most demanding of all the photography and you will always keep learning from the process.
Noise is inherent on longer exposures as well and ... (show quote)
Thank You much for your help and suggestions Algol. I'm so ignorant in the tech department! I don't know how to "stack" images. I don't know how to subtract an image. I have to teach myself everything so I'll need to look those up. I have Lightroom 5 and Photoshop Elements 9 (P.E. I know nothing about). So discouraging to live in an isolated area where there are no classes, gets exhausting trying to teach myself, plus it takes so long to get something ingrained!

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