ted45 Loc: Delaware

Rubbish.

In PA where I lived until two months ago, the State provides ID free of charge. If you can't get to a State Office they will send someone to your house and help you.
You simply voiced the lib talking point and it doesn't hold water.

Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY

Did you ever hear of mail-in or absentee ballots?

By the way, voter ID laws currently in the 30 or so states that have them are each different and include exceptions, photo vs non-photo ID's, the use of provisional ballots...etc., etc.

So to generalize in an attempt to show voter suppression is disingenuous. What specific state law do you find to suppress voting and how does it suppress one group over another? 8-)

bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona

You think we should ask George Soros what he thinks?

bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona

That was a good one, probably true!

bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona

Try to go to a DNC meeting or NAACP meeting, no ID you can't enter.

clanmack Loc: Asheville, NC

Romney said he didn't care about the "47%". IF they are that large a plurality, are poor, on the public dole, etc. they are the targets of voter ID/suppression. What percentage are well enough, mobile enough, able enough to get whatever picture ID needed to prove they are legal/ legitimate voters (particular if they have voted)? Where is the proof, of any kind, that voter fraud is anything but a shibboleth? Voter fraud numbers are infinitesimal, compared to the numbers whose votes are suppressed. Those who profess to change the voting requirements ought to prove fraud first. It is interesting that conservative Republicans are the only ones pushing these laws because they live in fear. Moderates, progressives and liberals aren't pushing for these changes.

Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA

Jimmy Carter is pro voter ID.

Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA

Of course not. Liberals and progressives are the beneficiary of fraud.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Wholeheartedly disagree with your statement, it is so easy for the left to villainize the Koch brothers, from my perspective it is Harry Reid himself who is un-American. The democrats have become the party of collectivism and of unrestrained government, spending, and debt... That is a fact, and that is not in accord with the traditional concept of the United States, in fact our constitution who most of us until recently assumed was governing charter of the federal government is a document that was designed to limit and restrict the federal government. To say that the Koch brothers, who support free markets and the liberty of the individual vs the power of the state in the name of collectivism, are only looking out for their own interest and pocket book in my opinion unfounded and slanderous. I suppose all the money that they donate to cancer research, hospitals, and the arts, which by far exceeds their political activity, also originates from their own personal greed.... somehow they must be cashing in on that charity, don't you think?

You are wrong in my opinion, you are just going along with the democrat crowd, demonizing any detractors of the progressive vision for our country. The Koch brothers are spending money to support the principles which they believe in, principles which apply and support individuals all across our country and across all classes of people.

ted45 Loc: Delaware

Romney never said that. The discussion was on how to get votes. What he said is that there is 47% of the available voters who would never vote for his platform no matter what they did. The liberal press put out their interpretation of what he said and you libs keep blowing that horn.

clanmack Loc: Asheville, NC

Since the issue raised was voter IDs as protecting voting rights vs suppression of voting, stick with the issue rather than defending the reputation of those who insist on Voter IDs. Offer information, data, facts or other substantiated proof that voter fraud exists, much less that it alters election processes or outcomes and let's talk. I am not challenging the character,virtues or defects of any of the people, Koch brothers, Soros, Adelson, etc. In defending any of them, you are engaging in argumentum ad hominum which just leads nowhere.

bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona

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Moderates, progressives and liberals aren't pushing for these changes because thats the only way to get the vote.

Vote 2-3 times, so what!
So whats the big deal if 127% of the registered voters vote.
That's how we win!

clanmack Loc: Asheville, NC

bvm
Are you implying that, without ID laws, previous elections, national, state or local, are invalid, post hoc? If so, where is the evidence? Show that and I am listening. If you can, then let's consider if the ID laws are the cure for this assault on our democratic republic.

ted45 Loc: Delaware

That's funny because it is so absurd. Every election in the past three decades has been marred with accusations of fraud from both sides. Voter ID would suppress if not eliminate that argument quickly. Almost 100% against voter ID are libs and democrats, the very people who cry fraud the loudest every election. Remember Florida and Gore?

Try to get into the DNC, a Federal building in DC, an NAACP meeting, or into the same room with Obama without showing ID.

Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY

Clanmack, you ask for evidence on voter fraud yet you provide none on voter suppression. What specific state voter ID law do you object to and how does it suppress one group of voters over another? DebJenRob hasn't answered, perhaps you can. 8-)