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Mar 31, 2014 09:51:12   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
Accelerator wrote:
Did the (we should be in charge of the world) UN also tell you how this planet never changes and has been the same for millions of years ? There were never any droughts until now. There was never an ice age. Dinosaurs had to be wiped out by the UN to protect us and our world because when they belched or farted the Methane was just destroying the atmosphere just like the cows are doing now. Oh and the Horses and Deer and Elk and Buffalo and People. Did they then jump on their eco friendly jumbo jets and zoom off to their next speech stop or vacation or their palatial homes to figure out how to best protect all us peasants from our self destructive ways. Or was it off to another war they are running that is non polluting and eco world friendly. Your hallowed UN is nothing more then a bunch of money grubbing power hungry thugs with zero consideration for you, me or this planet. If you die a horrible death tomorrow not one of them will know or care unless they can use your death to further their agenda. And that's the fact Jack.
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Did the deniers ever factor in the fact that there were never 7 billion wasteful greedy humans on the planet with there increasing supply of farting animals & their lust for raping natural resources etc, before. That's not cyclical, that's a fact of what's having an effect now.
We need to cull a few of them, starting with the denyers.

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Mar 31, 2014 09:52:24   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
Rcox wrote:
Since when does the U.N. have any credibiltiy?


Well----- They have as much credibility as the Obama administration.

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Mar 31, 2014 10:08:11   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
One volcanic eruption will far exceed the output of all those humans... So are you suggesting genocide to cure the issue ?
Bunko.T wrote:
Did the deniers ever factor in the fact that there were never 7 billion wasteful greedy humans on the planet with there increasing supply of farting animals & their lust for raping natural resources etc, before. That's not cyclical, that's a fact of what's having an effect now.
We need to cull a few of them, starting with the denyers.

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Mar 31, 2014 10:16:23   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
One volcanic eruption will far exceed the output of all those humans... So are you suggesting genocide to cure the issue ?


It may come to that when we are all struggling to find food & water to live & we are standing elbow to elbow & up to our knees in crap.

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Mar 31, 2014 10:45:33   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
What you say is so, but this change is rather different. Look at the data and then make up your mind.




madshad wrote:
I believe that global warming is a fact. that being said I also believe that we have less effect on it than politicians and even scientists tell us. the worlds climate has been changing since the beginning of time and their has been numerous ice ages and warm ups. while we do need to find an alternative to fossil fuels, I don't believe that the change will actually make any long term effect on the climate! my educated opinion! mom nature takes care of her own!!!

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Mar 31, 2014 10:47:21   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
I would urge many to look at this site. You may just change your mind.

http://climate.nasa.gov/climatechangeFAQ

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Mar 31, 2014 10:57:16   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Looked at the site, didn't change my mind as it didn't say definitively that the change was man made, just "likely"... When they state things like "Scientists agree it is very likely " or this segment in it's entirety "Why does the temperature record shown on your climate key indicators page begin at 1880?

That happens to be when most of the land areas of the northern hemisphere started to report surface temperatures measured by thermometer to government weather authorities, who recorded and archived them. Scientists call this the “instrumental record” of climate. Prior to 1880, there are not enough of these instrumental records from enough of the world to produce estimates of global temperatures. Instead, temperatures from further back in the past are reconstructed from proxy records like tree rings, pollen counts, boreholes and ice cores. They’re less accurate, and because they’re fundamentally different kinds of data, scientists don’t generally put these proxy-based temperatures on the same chart as the instrument-derived temperatures." or this section "f we stop all greenhouse gas emissions, will global climate change stop?

Industrial activity has already pumped billions of tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, and we have yet to see the full effect of warming from those gases. A great deal of excess energy imbalance is stored in the ocean and will be released gradually over time, continuing to warm the planet.

In other words, some degree of climate change is irreversible. Scientists call this the "committed warming," and estimate that the Earth would continue to warm about 1 degree Fahrenheit (.6 degrees Celsius) even if greenhouse gas levels in the atmosphere stopped growing immediately. That is, if all human greenhouse gas emissions stopped tomorrow, the Earth would still warm for at least a half-century. " which supports my contention that we need to "cope" with warming changes as opposed to trying to stop things outright...Note they use the word "estimate" in the reply, meaning they don't know, but are assuming this will happen.... Inexact science if you ask me... We all know what happens when we ASSume things.
ole sarg wrote:
I would urge many to look at this site. You may just change your mind.

http://climate.nasa.gov/climatechangeFAQ

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Mar 31, 2014 11:11:29   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
Rcox wrote:
Since when does the U.N. have any credibiltiy?


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

The U.N. has been turned into a wacko incubator. It wastes more money, more lives, and has no common sense. It has never, anywhere stopped any mass saluter of humanity.

Get out, it's a waste of money and lives.

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Mar 31, 2014 11:12:19   #
Calsnap Loc: Seattle/Montana/San Diego
 
Accelerator wrote:
Did the (we should be in charge of the world) UN also tell you how this planet never changes and has been the same for millions of years ? There were never any droughts until now. There was never an ice age. Dinosaurs had to be wiped out by the UN to protect us and our world because when they belched or farted the Methane was just destroying the atmosphere just like the cows are doing now. Oh and the Horses and Deer and Elk and Buffalo and People. Did they then jump on their eco friendly jumbo jets and zoom off to their next speech stop or vacation or their palatial homes to figure out how to best protect all us peasants from our self destructive ways. Or was it off to another war they are running that is non polluting and eco world friendly. Your hallowed UN is nothing more then a bunch of money grubbing power hungry thugs with zero consideration for you, me or this planet. If you die a horrible death tomorrow not one of them will know or care unless they can use your death to further their agenda. And that's the fact Jack.
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:thumbup: :thumbup:
Cold is the enemy of life, a little heat may return the earth to the lush jungles filled with bio-diversity of our planetary past. This all happened when CO2 levels were many times what they are today. The human factor is an unproven supposition.

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Mar 31, 2014 11:23:20   #
charlie Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota
 
Calsnap wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup:
Cold is the enemy of life, a little heat may return the earth to the lush jungles filled with bio-diversity of our planetary past. This all happened when CO2 levels were many times what they are today. The human factor is an unproven supposition.


I like what you're saying. Good post.

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Mar 31, 2014 11:44:34   #
Michael Hartley Loc: Deer Capital of Georgia
 
dljen wrote:
We are going to feel the effects of the drought that CA has been having. I know there will be a shortage at the grocery stores in fresh fruits and vegetables. Nobody can deny that.


Maybe they can divert some of the water currently going to the golf courses, and let the farmers have some.

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Mar 31, 2014 13:11:22   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
Michael Hartley wrote:
Maybe they can divert some of the water currently going to the golf courses, and let the farmers have some.


That would upset the CA. politician's fun.

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Mar 31, 2014 14:10:34   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
dljen wrote:
We are going to feel the effects of the drought that CA has been having. I know there will be a shortage at the grocery stores in fresh fruits and vegetables. Nobody can deny that.


So you are claiming the effects of the California drought somehow make global warming undeniable? I agree the effects of the draught will be felt but bridging that to global warming is anecdotal at best. Rather odd logic, or lack thereof.

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Mar 31, 2014 14:29:02   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
gmcase wrote:
So you are claiming the effects of the California drought somehow make global warming undeniable? I agree the effects of the draught will be felt but bridging that to global warming is anecdotal at best. Rather odd logic, or lack thereof.


And the EPA isn't helping.

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Mar 31, 2014 14:35:24   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
dljen wrote:
We are going to feel the effects of the drought that CA has been having. I know there will be a shortage at the grocery stores in fresh fruits and vegetables. Nobody can deny that.


Yes, but the drought has nothing to do with CO2 or Global Warming.... that's why they call it "Climate Change" so that they can point to anything and everything to scare you.

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