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Mar 29, 2014 16:09:58   #
DavidM Loc: New Orleans, LA
 
Camera buyer wrote:
Your collection of lenses would be much more effective on the full frame body.
You're 18 to 135 would in affect still be 18 to 135 instead of a 27 to roughly 200. Why add another system which would require buying new lenses?
I have the Canon 16-35, the 25-105 and the 100-400 and I'm a happy camper. They cover ALL my requirements. I have a Canon Powershot 110s as my carry around camera. You'd be better off finding a clean used Canon 5D Mk Ii or a 6D. You'll be amazed at the improved quality of images.
Your collection of lenses would be much more effec... (show quote)


Your probably right, I'm going to research this.

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Mar 29, 2014 16:30:09   #
rob s Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
Just remember that EFS lenses are crop frame only.
Since the 7D is a crop frame (APSC) camera EFS lenses would not prove a problem were you to get one.
I miss mine. It was the best action camera I've ever owned. The only downside was it's relatively noisy images in low light situations.

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Mar 29, 2014 17:00:27   #
DavidM Loc: New Orleans, LA
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Hi David,

We're all different....

But if I had your kit I'd first get the Canon EF-S 10-22mm. Wide angle takes some practice, but once you learn what you can accomplish with them, can be a lot of fun. There are cheaper options (Sigma, Tokina, Tamron) but the 10-22mm is the best of the ultrawide bunch for use on Canon cameras.

Next thing I'd do is upgrade from the 50/1.8 "thrifty fifty". A lens I'd recommend is the Tamron 60/2.0... which I'm currently experimenting with. It is a very good macro lens, plus an excellent portrait lens. No other macro lens offers an f2.0 aperture (well, except for a manual focus 100mm Zeiss). It's not got Tamron's relatively new "USD" drive, so isn't fast focusing, and can't really serve for sports/action... but is fine for macro and portraits. Really shouldn't be a problem replacing a 50/1.8, though, since that's not only slow focusing, it's also hit-and-miss in ffocus accuracy and noisy. The Tamron is internal focusing (doesn't grow longer when focused closer), which is nice when shooting macro. And the front barrel doesn't rotate when shooting (which is nice if using a polarizing filter). I got mine on sale for $400 not too long ago. The Canon EF-S 60/2.8 is also a great mscro lens, has better USM focus, but is only f2.8... The f2.0 of the Tamron is nicer for portraiture or other types of photography where you want a particularly shallow depth of field or need to shoot in lower light.

I agree, the EF-S 15-85mm would be an excellent upgrade from your 18-135mm (though the later, STM version of that is supposedly pretty darned good).

If you didn't have the 50/1.8 (or a Tamron 60/2.0), I'd suggest the EF-S 17-55/2.8 IS instead. But since you have a fast prime, there's probably no need to go to a more expensive and focal range limited f2.8 walk-around zoom.

Speaking of faster primes, I also carry a Canon EF 28/1.8 and like it as a slightly wide "normal" lens on my crop cameras. It's very compact, even with it's matched lens hood. I might try the new EF 24/2.8 IS sometime, for it's slightly wider angle of view on a crop camera. But it's slightly larger, more expensive and f2.8 instead of f1.8. An alternative "fast normal" lens is the crop only Sigma 30/1.4.

I disagree with the suggestion about a 70-200. You have a 100-400mm, so don't need a 70-200mm.

I also would not recommend going to a full frame camera unless wanting lower light capabilities or planning to make really large prints (5D "Classic" would be a step backward in many respects, don't settle for less than a 5DII or 6D). In fact "your collection of lenses" not only would be less effective on full frame, the EF-S 18-135 wouldn't even fit!

Switching to full frame is more than just buying the camera. You'd also have to replace any EF-S lenses completely with bigger, heavier more expensive full frame compatible lenses... In your case, that includes the 18-135 or 15-85mm (24-105 is a little more expensive, 24-70/2.8 is a whole lot more expensive and much bigger/heavier)... and, if you get it the 10-22mm (16-35 II is much more expensive, plus bigger and heavier, and actually isn't as sharp corner to corner)... plus your 100-400mm would also suddenly be "shorter", so you might find yourself looking for a 500mm or 600mm lens and a tripod to sit it on.

I know it's the latest fad and there are lots of full frame famboyz and fangirlz around... but many people don't actually need full frame. A crop camera system can be a lot cheaper, smaller, lighter and still meet or exceed all their needs. Unless you are shooting in moonlight or making 20x30" prints a lot, stick with your 60D (which has a better AF system than either 5D, 5DII or 6D, in all but the lowest light conditions).

I wouldn't go with a different brand for a compact point n shoot camera. What I might do is wait for the new Canon M2 "mirrorless", which apparently has only been released in Japan so far. While it uses M-specific lenses (EF-M), and there is a limited selection of those, there is an adapter available for it that would allow you to use any of the above EF/EF-S mount lenses on it, too.
Hi David, br br We're all different.... br br ... (show quote)


WOW amfoto1, Thank for this lengthy write-up, really appreciate it, One thing I'm looking at it a refurbished 24-105L lense, Is this a good deal from Amorama on eBay? There website shows same lens for $100 more!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EF-24-105mm-f-4L-IS-AF-Telephoto-Lens-Refurbished-0344B005AA-/390807127140?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item5afdeb8464

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Mar 29, 2014 17:07:34   #
DavidM Loc: New Orleans, LA
 
rob s wrote:
Good advice. I used a EFS 15-85 and a EF 70-200 L is for several years. I began thinking that one day I might upgrade to full frame. With that in mind I bought a used EF 24-105 L is from Craigslist for $600 and would now recommend this + the EF 70-200 L is as being the best lenses I've had for general purpose photography. Although I had a 7D when I made the 24-105 my walk around lens I almost never took it off the camera. On a crop factor the 24mm end of the zoom really isn't quite wide enough sometimes but Photomerge takes care of that nicely and on the 6D I'm now using it's fine.
I would recommend these two 'cheap' L series lenses above anything else even if they are a bit of a stretch financially you'll just be saving yourself from trading and buying until you own them. The 15-85 isn't a great deal cheaper than the 24-105 but the difference in quality is significant. Get the 24-105 and learn how to use Photomerge.
A lot of people (like myself) buy the 24-105 in a kit, mine came with the 6D. This makes them cheap enough to resell on Craigslist new and unused for $700 - 750 and discount the cost of the body a little. (I resold my 'old' one and kept the new one instead).
The EF 70-200 L is is simply excellent. Unless you have lots of money and really need the speed get the f4. It's optically as good and light and easy enough to carry around easily. Check the reviews.
Good advice. I used a EFS 15-85 and a EF 70-200 L... (show quote)


Thanks Rob, Is this 24-105 a good deal from Adorama:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EF-24-105mm-f-4L-IS-AF-Telephoto-Lens-Refurbished-0344B005AA-/390807127140?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item5afdeb8464

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Mar 29, 2014 17:23:43   #
rob s Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
DavidM wrote:
WOW amfoto1, Thank for this lengthy write-up, really appreciate it, One thing I'm looking at it a refurbished 24-105L lense, Is this a good deal from Amorama on eBay? There website shows same lens for $100 more!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EF-24-105mm-f-4L-IS-AF-Telephoto-Lens-Refurbished-0344B005AA-/390807127140?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item5afdeb8464


Looks like a good deal to me. You will like this lens.
I don't agree with the advice not to aspire to the 70-200. Mine is so good that enlarging the image to match the size still leaves the image looking better. I recently looked at the Canon 100-400 L as a trade. No contest. A very important aspect of any gear you have is will you have it with you? I have a small LowePro Fastpack 100 precisely because I want gear I can carry all day with no discomfort. Not big heavy stuff.
My 70-200 rode all round Australia in this for three and a half weeks with all the usual extras - extender, charger, cleaning gear, batteries, cards, filters, remote, bean bag etc AND a lightweight windbreaker, 2 granola bars and a small bottle of water. The camera and 24-105 will also fit but you'll need to buy lunch ;-). Those usually travel on my OpTech sling ready for immediate use.

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Mar 29, 2014 17:24:44   #
rob s Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
If you want to get a feel for the 70-200 try borrowing or renting one for comparison with your tele!

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Mar 29, 2014 18:33:33   #
mikedidi46 Loc: WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
 
DavidM wrote:
I would like some assistance determining which lens I should consider to add to my collection.

I own the 60D, 18-135mm kit lens, 100-400 zoom, 50 1.8 mm prime.

I was considering a wide 10-20 mm, but not sure how much use I would get out of it. Also maybe consider a better medium range zoom for image quality.

Also am considering the Olympus e-pl5 as a secondary walk around camera, Is this a smart buy?

Thanks in advance for your comments! I will get back to ya'll later this evening.
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I have a Sigma 10-20mm for my 60D/70D and I use it more than I ever expected. It is an excellent lens for travel, as I use it for large Cathedrals.

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Mar 29, 2014 21:28:08   #
FETISHWOLF
 
MAYBE THIS WILL HELP A BIT IN UNDERSTANDING WHICH LENS FITS INTO WHAT YOU ACTUALLY WISH TO PURSUE WITH YOUR PHOTOGRAPHY.

THOUGH THIS IS A TAMRON, AND NOT CANON CHART, THE BASIC PREMISE STILL APPLIES ACROSS THE BOARD.

SINCE IT'S FULL FRAME SPECS, REMEMBER YOUR CROP FACTOR WILL GIVE YOU MORE REACH.

I HOPE IT ASSISTS YOU.

WOLF

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Mar 29, 2014 22:22:06   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
imagemeister wrote:
An exceptionally good 70-200 f4 should be a part of any serious photographers kit IMHO. I would favor the Sony A3000 over the olympus - unless weight is an absolute factor.


I would agree! The Canon 70-200 ""L" series f4 was the first lens (other than the kit lens that came with the camera) that I bought for my 7D. Spectacularly good lens for the money IMHO.

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Mar 30, 2014 00:10:09   #
FETISHWOLF
 
THAT'S SOME PRETTY THOROUGH AND SAVVY ADVICE, WELL WORTH A RE-READING OR THREE.

AS FOR 'ADORAMA', DEAL WITH THEM DIRECTLY. THEY OFFER A SOLID RETURN/REPAIR GUARANTEE.

THEY ALSO SELL EXTREMELY INEXPENSIVE WARRANTIES TAILORED TO THE ACTUAL VALUE OF THE LENS WHICH COVERS DROPS AND SPILLS AS A BONUS.

ISRAEL K IS A VERY WELL VERSED SALESMAN IF YOU WISH A NAME TO GO TO DIRECTLY.

LASTLY, WHEN YOU BUY FROM THEM THERE IS NO TAX AND USUALLY FREE SHIPPING.

WOLF

PS: I HAVE A NEW 6D, 70D AND A USED 7D WITH A FEW LENS AVAILABLE SHOULD YOU BE INTERESTED.

I WOULD STRONGLY ADVISE YOU TO PICK THE BRAINS OF THE PEOPLE ON HERE (READ REVIEWS TOO) SO YOU ARE COMPLETELY CERTAIN BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY INVESTMENT IN MORE EQUIPMENT.

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Mar 30, 2014 00:10:54   #
PaulMWalsh Loc: Duluth Minesota
 
You may want to consider getting the 70-200 2.8L lens. Buy the older version of the lens. It might be comparable in price. It just won't have the internal stabilizers...etc in the lens. You will actually get a lot more for the money. I still use this lens that I bought in 2000, after I bought it used from a Sports Illustrated photographer... So it has had more than a lifetime of use...and it is still going.

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Mar 30, 2014 02:56:02   #
masonmike Loc: Vancouver, Washington
 
You were talking about getting the 10-22mm in your original post. Go for it. You can find them used for about 500$. You need to start your collection some where.

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Mar 30, 2014 03:03:18   #
masonmike Loc: Vancouver, Washington
 
Buy the way, your 60D is a great camera. I would be looking at getting better glass then a new camera body. But I,d keep the 60D as a 2nd body even if I went Full Frame. IMHO

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Mar 31, 2014 11:02:49   #
Bill Emmett Loc: Bow, New Hampshire
 
DavidM wrote:
I would like some assistance determining which lens I should consider to add to my collection.

I own the 60D, 18-135mm kit lens, 100-400 zoom, 50 1.8 mm prime.

I was considering a wide 10-20 mm, but not sure how much use I would get out of it. Also maybe consider a better medium range zoom for image quality.

Also am considering the Olympus e-pl5 as a secondary walk around camera, Is this a smart buy?



Thanks in advance for your comments! I will get back to ya'll later this evening.
I would like some assistance determining which len... (show quote)


For a second camera, I would not even look at another brand of camera. You seem to be set on Canon products now, and are looking to purchase even more Canon lenses. Buying a second non-Canon DSLR would open the door of more or doubling your gear. When I upgraded, I went from a older 50D, to a 7D. All my lenses will fit either camera, since both are cropped bodies. I'm now thinking of going to a full frame body, and all my main lenses will fit the full frame.

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Mar 31, 2014 13:25:39   #
DavidM Loc: New Orleans, LA
 
Of the following lenses, which would you most likely add to your collection for an APS-C sensor camera? (Keep in mind I have the 18-135 mm kit lens)

Canon 24-105L (EF)
Sigma 24-105

Canon 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS (EF-s)
Canon 17-55 2.8 IS (EF-s)

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