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Mar 1, 2014 13:16:35   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
For me it's a no-brainer. I started shooting prins (slr) in 1973 and kept at it until I bought my first dslr a number of years ago. I only brought out the camera for vacations and special occasions. From the first day with my DSLR I took photos, loads and loads of photos. I probably took more photos in my first 6 months than the previous twenty years.

I will "waste" shots to see if they turn out the way I thought they would. Which means I'm willing to experiment. I've learned to us off camera flash--something I would never do with film.

The original question: is film or digital better? I've enlarged film photos to poster size; I've enlarged digital to poster size; was there a difference? None that I am aware of. Can I tell the difference? No.

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Mar 1, 2014 19:58:05   #
farnsworth52 Loc: W. Pa.
 
This topic has been beaten to death. I shoot both. The one thing I almost never see is the satisfaction factor. Taking a great photo with film and printing it to match what you envisioned when you took the shot;digital doesn't even come close. It's almost like having a new addition to the family. Digital will never do that for me. It just feels more like a creation when film is involved. It must have something to do with the waiting period. Digital is like watching the neighbors kids,film is like making your own kids.

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Mar 1, 2014 19:58:05   #
farnsworth52 Loc: W. Pa.
 
This topic has been beaten to death. I shoot both. The one thing I almost never see is the satisfaction factor. Taking a great photo with film and printing it to match what you envisioned when you took the shot;digital doesn't even come close. It's almost like having a new addition to the family. Digital will never do that for me. It just feels more like a creation when film is involved. It must have something to do with the waiting period. Digital is like watching the neighbors kids,film is like making your own kids.

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Mar 2, 2014 03:42:06   #
twiga Loc: near Boston, MA
 
farnsworth52 wrote:
This topic has been beaten to death. I shoot both. The one thing I almost never see is the satisfaction factor. Taking a great photo with film and printing it to match what you envisioned when you took the shot;digital doesn't even come close. It's almost like having a new addition to the family. Digital will never do that for me. It just feels more like a creation when film is involved. It must have something to do with the waiting period. Digital is like watching the neighbors kids,film is like making your own kids.
This topic has been beaten to death. I shoot both.... (show quote)


Oh...beautifully put...well said

:thumbup:

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Mar 2, 2014 04:40:36   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
roy4711 wrote:
Can you tell the difference with a photo shot with film as opposed to one shot digital? I know some photographers still use film at times. Could we say film produces a better photo as far as image quality? :idea:


as prints are measured in dots per inch, film wins, in all digital formats, at all times. film produces superior image quality and it is also archival - this means, properly taken care of it will last beyond 100 years.

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Mar 2, 2014 11:20:58   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
wj cody wrote:
as prints are measured in dots per inch, film wins, in all digital formats, at all times. film produces superior image quality and it is also archival - this means, properly taken care of it will last beyond 100 years.


I have a couple of problems with that. Never say always. Digital is also "archival". Prints can also last 100 years and then be rescanned with no loss of quality. New digital media can also last 100 years. When I scan negatives or slides there is no "magic number" for dots per inch. Depending on the ISO and grain size for a particular negative, I'll try for somewhere between pixelizing (too few dpi) and seeing the film grain (too many dpi). But I can also shoot digital at resolutions that match or exceed the dot count of film, especially high ISO film.

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Mar 2, 2014 11:23:15   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
farnsworth52 wrote:
Digital is like watching the neighbors kids,film is like making your own kids.


And we all know that making your own kids is a lot more fun. :thumbup:

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Mar 2, 2014 12:04:28   #
Dick Z. Loc: Downers Grove IL
 
OddJobber wrote:
I have a couple of problems with that. Never say always. Digital is also "archival". Prints can also last 100 years and then be rescanned with no loss of quality. New digital media can also last 100 years. When I scan negatives or slides there is no "magic number" for dots per inch. Depending on the ISO and grain size for a particular negative, I'll try for somewhere between pixelizing (too few dpi) and seeing the film grain (too many dpi). But I can also shoot digital at resolutions that match or exceed the dot count of film, especially high ISO film.
I have a couple of problems with that. Never say ... (show quote)




Also There are Archival disk you can purchase that last 150 years. Don't know anyone living that long though! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Mar 2, 2014 12:29:20   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
roy4711 wrote:
Can you tell the difference with a photo shot with film as opposed to one shot digital? I know some photographers still use film at times. Could we say film produces a better photo as far as image quality? :idea:


This reminds me of when digital audio (cd's) first came out. So many audiophiles swore that cd's didn't sound as good as vinyl. So, cd's were shunned because they were regarded as inferior. The fight goes on today - hence, the resurgence in analogue audio. I wonder: is the audio-processing equipment (d/a converters, amps, speakers, etc.) unable to respond quickly enough to the sudden changes in dynamics of the signal (digital is fast!) , thus causing the inferior sound?
Now, will digital photography signals react the same way, causing perceived inferior results?

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Mar 2, 2014 17:11:01   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
wj cody wrote:
as prints are measured in dots per inch, film wins, in all digital formats, at all times. film produces superior image quality and it is also archival - this means, properly taken care of it will last beyond 100 years.


That's nonsense. Today's DSLRs kill 35mm film, both in resolution and dynamic range, and i was a film holdout for a long time.

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Mar 2, 2014 17:26:19   #
Dick Z. Loc: Downers Grove IL
 
TheDman wrote:
That's nonsense. Today's DSLRs kill 35mm film, both in resolution and dynamic range, and i was a film holdout for a long time.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Mar 2, 2014 17:50:27   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
roy4711 wrote:
Can you tell the difference with a photo shot with film as opposed to one shot digital? I know some photographers still use film at times. Could we say film produces a better photo as far as image quality? :idea:


I doubt that most people would be able to tell the difference.

I know I would probably not be able to when comparing 35mm film to a high resolution digital image assuming that the digital was processed to match.

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Mar 4, 2014 17:35:59   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
OddJobber wrote:
I have a couple of problems with that. Never say always. Digital is also "archival". Prints can also last 100 years and then be rescanned with no loss of quality. New digital media can also last 100 years. When I scan negatives or slides there is no "magic number" for dots per inch. Depending on the ISO and grain size for a particular negative, I'll try for somewhere between pixelizing (too few dpi) and seeing the film grain (too many dpi). But I can also shoot digital at resolutions that match or exceed the dot count of film, especially high ISO film.
I have a couple of problems with that. Never say ... (show quote)


yup, but and here's the kicker, 10 years from now you will not be able to access your digital media, as there will be no hardware with which to do this.

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Mar 4, 2014 17:38:38   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
wj cody wrote:
yup, but and here's the kicker, 10 years from now you will not be able to access your digital media, as there will be no hardware with which to do this.


What in the world makes you think this?

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Mar 4, 2014 17:49:29   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
the electronics industry is the electronics industry. the past is the best predictor of the future. the ever present desire of this industry to obsolete digital imaging devices will continue at an even greater pace than currently. after all, this is how they stay in business.

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