Startling Revolation for 2016 (Page 4): yeah ,this guy is a real trip...i don't think he knows what humor is....i've seen other things he's posted.....

hopthecop Loc: salisbury md

phcaan wrote:

You can't be serious! You read that and took it as a proposed fact?
That is almost unbelievable, incredible, it amazes me that anyone can look at an obvious joke and note only take it seriously, but respond to such an obvious prank.

yeah ,this guy is a real trip...i don't think he knows what humor is....i've seen other things he's posted.....

Calsnap Loc: Seattle/Montana/San Diego

sarge69 wrote:

See how gullible some folks are? These folks vote ... (show quote)

Don't give up Sarge, ya just cain't fix stupid. :thumbup: :thumbup:

hj Loc: Florida

hj wrote:
Absolutely anyone in either party would be a better candidate than Hillary Clinton (Well excluding Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reed and a few others).

KW Conch wrote:

There is no way a TP candidate could beat Hillary. They have zero appeal beyond the extreme right.

I'm not saying they could win against the democratic machine with it's freebies.... just saying they would be better, more qualified, more trustworthy than Clinton.

raymondh Loc: Walker, MI

:D

Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.

georgevedwards wrote:

I really thought it was serious. As usual when you have nothing of any real substance to say Repubicans make up lies and expect them to be recognized as such? Really makes no sense to me.

If your looking for lies look to the white house.

Skellum0

Hal81 wrote:

If your looking for lies look to the white house.

If you're looking for lies listen to any politician.

venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.

KW Conch wrote:

There is no way a TP candidate could beat Hillary. They have zero appeal beyond the extreme right.

My grandmother told me many years ago that for a person to spend untold effort and energy in castigating another (in this case for you the Tea party) only means that they either Want to be like them or so afraid of them that they can only use "Words" against them ..

I think you and others fit into those words of wisdom of long ago very nicely..

Mike

Dogman Loc: Michigan

tainkc wrote:

No, but like a cowboy, I wear a hat so I know which end to wipe.

I'm not a cowboy, but I do wear a hat. Now I know why. But if I start wearing it to the bathroom.... :thumbup:

Dogman

autofocus Loc: North Central Connecticut

boberic wrote:

I guess you are in favor of government run healthc... (show quote)

Bingo!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado

phcaan wrote:

You can't be serious! You read that and took it as a proposed fact?
That is almost unbelievable, incredible, it amazes me that anyone can look at an obvious joke and note only take it seriously, but respond to such an obvious prank.

The truly sad part is guys like George vote!

KW Conch Loc: USA

venturer9 wrote:

My grandmother told me many years ago that for a person to spend untold effort and energy in castigating another (in this case for you the Tea party) only means that they either Want to be like them or so afraid of them that they can only use "Words" against them ..

I think you and others fit into those words of wisdom of long ago very nicely..

Mike

Mike, I find that interesting as I see constant ranting against Obama and the Democrats. Which of those options fit you ?

venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.

KW Conch wrote:

Mike, I find that interesting as I see constant ranting against Obama and the Democrats. Which of those options fit you ?

OK, I had written below saying that I didn't quite understand the questions.... but went back and read what I had said and understood a little better.... BUT What I wrote (see below) sort of (I believe) takes me out of either one...

I do not hate Obama, I DESPERATELY HATE What he is doing to the USA at this time..... I am 74 and have staggered through several Presidents of pretty much equal representation of Republicans and Democrats...
BUT I have never seen one who can match the one we have now.......A very small example... The interview with Bill O'Reilly where he (President) said ... "THERE IS NOT A SMIDGEN OF CORRUPTION IN THE IRS (I think it was the IRS) " now you are no doubt smart enough and honest enough to know that that was a bald faced lie and he knew it when he told it.....

I find that kind of stuff over and over again to be one of the most grating things I have ever had to contend with from a man who is running the Country...

BUT here is what I wrote originally...

I am not sure exactly what you are asking... BUT if you go back you will see that I often offer comments about a subject, including a companion URL..

You will also find that I Very Seldom START A crap tossing session, but am not afraid to speak my piece when accused or called names....

Mike

hj Loc: Florida

venturer9 wrote:

OK, I had written below saying that I didn't quite... (show quote)

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Skellum0

autofocus wrote:

Bingo!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

While I am yet to be convinced either way there is some very faulty logic in the poster's logic.

1. If the products coming out of R&D was solely marketed to America then there would be a case. They're not, they make at least as much profit, maybe even bigger margins selling abroad.
2. Other countries do make significant medical breakthroughs. Some of these, when you compare their populations are at least as proflific on pro rated basis.
3. The reason I have supported American healthcare over state systems for most of my life is because I believed profit would drive efficiency. I now discover through both the WHO and Blumberg statistics that America has amongst the worst healthcare of the developed countries at the highest cost per capita.

Something is badly broken in America. When profit is put above health the majority suffer.

autofocus Loc: North Central Connecticut

Skellum0 wrote:

While I am yet to be convinced either way there is some very faulty logic in the poster's logic.

1. If the products coming out of R&D was solely marketed to America then there would be a case. They're not, they make at least as much profit, maybe even bigger margins selling abroad.

So what's wrong with that? Profit drives technology, R&D, new products, and products that will benefit many. Companies are in business for one reason, they are not charitable organizations. I suspect, you like many others, have a 401K or retirement plan that's fairly heavily invested in these big drug companies...tell me you're not happy when you see those positive quarterly statements

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2. Other countries do make significant medical breakthroughs. Some of these, when you compare their populations are at least as proflific on pro rated basis.

Yes, Israel is one for sure

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3. The reason I have supported American healthcare over state systems for most of my life is because I believed profit would drive efficiency. I now discover through both the WHO and Blumberg statistics that America has amongst the worst healthcare of the developed countries at the highest cost per capita.

TBH, I don't think I'd believe anything from the WHO, and only believe what I've seen here over the years. Before Mr. Obama decided he was going to turn the whole industry upside down I think we can safely say that 80-90% of the US population had some form of medical coverage, and most covered were reasonably happy with it. The claim was that ~30 million people or about 10% were without coverage. It has also been stated by the CBO that they estimate to have close to that same number of uncovered individuals 10 years from now. (sure sounds like a net gain of 0) I believe a far simpler solution could have been put in place to cover those people in that group without turning the whole industry upside down. I believe a simple additional small amount tax taken out of worker's paychecks every pay period could have funded coverage for the 30 million people without coverage. Nobody likes additional taxes, but in retrospect to what we are going through now with the ACA, I'm sure most people would welcome it along with the real bonus of keeping what they had.