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Dec 23, 2013 09:23:08   #
krakkaz Loc: Cleveland, OH
 
Actually, I haven't even talked about these things to anyone unless they ask me first. An old co-worker asked what I was up to and I told her I had since been doing photo work and that is where the question came in... the rest are from her daughter and her stripper friends.

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Dec 23, 2013 09:38:45   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
krakkaz wrote:
Feel free to ignore my posts and comments in the forum from now on. I simply have a goal which I'm trying to accomplish and this is the type of work that I have fell into simply because that is what my phone has been ringing for.

Since I gave the first caller a date to shoot I have had 4 more people calling with the same idea.

This is a photography forum... correct?
I asked a photography question... correct?

Maybe it wasn't along the lines of "hey, which f/stop works best in this situation for focal length" but on the business side, that doesn't mean I'm doing anything wrong.

The question isn't a 'big hook', it's a question.
Feel free to ignore my posts and comments in the f... (show quote)


I just don't ignore. I am a very proactive person. Perhaps what you really need to be is over-seen by law enforcement. You are very easily ID'ed. J. R.

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Dec 23, 2013 09:42:51   #
Glider Loc: Austin
 
Leave the guy alone! He's apparently not doing anything illegal if the subjects are over 21 and it sounds as though they are. I'd wager most posters on here don't get asked to shoot much at all for pay and most are hobbyist.
Now...are you really shooting porn or boudoir? Porn involves a sexual act or images that are more gynecological in nature. Boudoir is just sexy, maybe with some pink parts visible. I suspect your new stripper clientel is asking for promotional images, which I would class as boudoir.
Be VERY cautious about age and ALWAYS have your assistant present. Be absolutely certain to get a release on both the model and, if appropriate, the location as well. Then file copyright within 3 months of the shoot.
Otherwise, enjoy!

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Dec 23, 2013 09:46:44   #
krakkaz Loc: Cleveland, OH
 
lol, law enforcement... really? For taking pictures of a consenting adult who shows proper state issued ID, signs a release and has approached ME on the subject... good luck with that buddy. Tell ya what, I'll call myself and let ya listen in. How's that work? USC2257 covers me.

Thanks Glider. It will be more for promo stuff for the strippers (they want to sell some images online though) and maybe a little 'solo' work. I'm not into doing full blown porn.

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Dec 23, 2013 09:51:43   #
cgchief Loc: Jarrettsville
 
krakkaz wrote:
I'm doing a lot of adult type shoots in the coming weeks. Any ideas on where to sell them? I do know of exgfcontent and adultcontent.nl.

There will be various genres and I will absolutely be having a model release and ID for the legitimate paperwork.


"adult type shoots" is that your term for pornography?
I hate to think all adults are moral degenerates.

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Dec 23, 2013 09:55:03   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
I do not understand the question. You are being asked to do shoot or shoots for people who are calling you. But it will be you who is selling and marketing the results? That just does not sound right. Are you slipping something into the contract where you retain all rights, including use for the product? What are you being asked to do? Take shots for someone or take shots of someone for your own use?

Normally, when contracted, you retain rights to be compensated for use, but not to determine the use.

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Dec 23, 2013 10:00:41   #
krakkaz Loc: Cleveland, OH
 
The model release will be signed giving me rights to distribute the photos which is standard practice.

They want to try and turn an income from some of the images so they asked if we could sell them and there will be a contract in place saying it's, for example, a 50/50 split since I will be doing the marketing of the images.

I do SEO and basic web design so I know how competitive this market is, I was looking for an adult version of a stock photo site with a good reputation.

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Dec 23, 2013 10:31:06   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
This really isn't a big deal folks just one more smut peddler in a nation full of them.

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Dec 23, 2013 10:42:58   #
Samuraiz Loc: Central Florida
 
I see that moral judgement is now an implied right of a Ugly Hedge hog.......?????

If he was contracted to do a Victoria Secret Shoot would you express them same sentiment.

The photographer asked for information about marketing a specific type of legal photos. He did not seek the opinion of whether this type of photography should be discussed on an open forum. Furthermore, he IS referencing Boudoir photography and if you go to You Tube you may be quite surprised just how many of the top professional shooters have also produced this genre.

Have a nice day :)

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Dec 23, 2013 10:47:56   #
James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)
 
krakkaz wrote:
Feel free to ignore my posts and comments in the forum from now on. I simply have a goal which I'm trying to accomplish and this is the type of work that I have fell into simply because that is what my phone has been ringing for.

Since I gave the first caller a date to shoot I have had 4 more people calling with the same idea.

This is a photography forum... correct?
I asked a photography question... correct?

Maybe it wasn't along the lines of "hey, which f/stop works best in this situation for focal length" but on the business side, that doesn't mean I'm doing anything wrong.

The question isn't a 'big hook', it's a question.
Feel free to ignore my posts and comments in the f... (show quote)

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I think that the photographing of nudes are great. The selling of them dose bring up a marketing question. I have made photographs of nudes and people in "action" as nudes as well. However ----- This falls under the "blanket" of ""PERSONAL PHOTOGRAPHY"" -- This is where the CLIENT has made the choice to contact me for such work and No Other Eyes would see this material.

I charge them a standard fee of 100 U.S.D. an hour - Set-up included. I do not make prints of the images that I capture of them in "this" particular work effort - I burn them a C.D. and let the client do whatever they choose to do. Then I delete ALL of their work from any and all of my drives. Telling them that YOU have The ONLY copy. If You Loose It - I will have to make another shoot. (Another 100 U.S.D. per hour.)

I wish you the best in your marketing of your nude photographic studies. But thus-so-far I have not done this sort of work - Only what I have out-lined above.

Edward Weston, the great California photographer did a lot of nudes and his sold well - They are now very highly prized prints.

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Dec 23, 2013 11:19:07   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
:shock: You are dealing with old foggies here so porn is not going to get a warm welcome, to say the least...


What the hell....Old Foggies????????????????? Thought we had you Young Whippersnappers Fooled! :) :)

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Dec 23, 2013 11:39:21   #
bigb Loc: Central New Jersey, USA
 
To me the word porn is a description not a judgement

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Dec 23, 2013 11:48:55   #
JP/Avery Loc: Australia
 
I say go for it.if it makes u money, cool! If it was me I would try to contact magazine companies (dont know names).start ur own website? Well I would fo my research as yes its a touchy subject with many laws involved.
Iv done nude shots (not porn posses) but in a abstract way n have showed them in galleries.if its done tastefully its art.personally not my thing (porn) but gd luck n if that makes u happy so be it

not my photo just an example of tasteful nude photography
not my photo just an example of tasteful nude phot...

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Dec 23, 2013 11:59:35   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
krakkaz wrote:
The model release will be signed giving me rights to distribute the photos which is standard practice.

They want to try and turn an income from some of the images so they asked if we could sell them and there will be a contract in place saying it's, for example, a 50/50 split since I will be doing the marketing of the images.

I do SEO and basic web design so I know how competitive this market is, I was looking for an adult version of a stock photo site with a good reputation.


So you are doing the photography. There is a model coming in (I assume they are being paid a day rate.) You will do the marketing. The model gets the day rate, you get 50%. What does the other person do for their 50%?

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Dec 23, 2013 12:04:14   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
krakkaz wrote:
Feel free to ignore my posts and comments in the forum from now on. I simply have a goal which I'm trying to accomplish and this is the type of work that I have fell into simply because that is what my phone has been ringing for.

Since I gave the first caller a date to shoot I have had 4 more people calling with the same idea.

This is a photography forum... correct?
I asked a photography question... correct?

Maybe it wasn't along the lines of "hey, which f/stop works best in this situation for focal length" but on the business side, that doesn't mean I'm doing anything wrong.

The question isn't a 'big hook', it's a question.
Feel free to ignore my posts and comments in the f... (show quote)


You joined just before Christmas - there is still time to leave just before Christmas. If I were you I'd just FO.

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