consumer reports
Nov 14, 2013 09:46:40 #
authorizeduser wrote:
That's right! Every magazine on the planet is bought and paid for to some extent. Especially reviews. Do you really think a reviewer is going to bad mouth, even if it is justified, a product of a sponsor ..... Get real! The only reviews I trust are user reviews and even then you have to be careful as some reviews may be deliberate plants.
^^^You OBVIOUSLY don't understand how CR works... :(
Nov 14, 2013 09:52:36 #
User reviews may be one of the most suspect IMHO... There are likely many that a mfgr or seller has paid someone to do a favorable one on. I tend to look for trends in & among reviews. Where a similar flaw is expressed by more than just a few individuals....I have read many reviews where someone will put down a product that doesn't have a certain feature, but it's a feature the product never claimed to have to begin with !... Then you have reviewers who ding a product, all the while not using the product properly in the first place...... Bottom line, read all reviews with a grain of salt... One person's junk is another's treasure...
authorizeduser wrote:
That's right! Every magazine on the planet is bought and paid for to some extent. Especially reviews. Do you really think a reviewer is going to bad mouth, even if it is justified, a product of a sponsor ..... Get real! The only reviews I trust are user reviews and even then you have to be careful as some reviews may be deliberate plants.
Nov 14, 2013 11:10:05 #
authorizeduser wrote:
That's right! Every magazine on the planet is bought and paid for to some extent. Especially reviews. Do you really think a reviewer is going to bad mouth, even if it is justified, a product of a sponsor ..... Get real! The only reviews I trust are user reviews and even then you have to be careful as some reviews may be deliberate plants.
There is no...none...advertising in CR. I do believe they are one of the most unbiased consumer magazine available. Are they perfect? Of course not. But still the best in my opinion.
Nov 14, 2013 11:23:17 #
wthomson wrote:
I have used CR for several decades, and they are a... (show quote)
I agree. There is a tendency for reviewers anywhere to review for the base of their readership. I was looking at reviews for online backup sites and noticed that one site (will remain nameless) gave an editors choice to a service with a default maximum file size of 5Mg and a big price add on over 1 gig of storage. Other services had unlimited storage at very little more than the base price of the EC. They even discussed the needs to store photos but saw no need to address the size issues. Obviously they are more concerned with casual users who are not likely to have more than 1 gig of photos. That does not include anyone with more than a two year old point and shoot.
Nov 14, 2013 11:30:01 #
Wabbit
Loc: Arizona Desert
dsmeltz wrote:
I agree. There is a tendency for reviewers anywhe... (show quote)
YA don't need Consumer Reports Doc ..... If ya wanna know about the best just ask Ken Rockwell .....
..... he reviews everything .....
..... just did a review on Kohler toilet seats .....
..... last month he reviewed bird feeders ..... and chicken pluckers .....
..... I'm looking forward to next month cause he does his yearly Christmas tree review .....
Nov 14, 2013 11:43:25 #
Nov 14, 2013 11:49:55 #
Yeah, KR and dpreview rock. That is where I go first. I mistakenly went to a computer review site for the backup reviews. My bad!
Nov 14, 2013 13:06:45 #
mikegreenwald
Loc: Illinois
authorizeduser wrote:
That's right! Every magazine on the planet is bought and paid for to some extent. Especially reviews. Do you really think a reviewer is going to bad mouth, even if it is justified, a product of a sponsor ..... Get real! The only reviews I trust are user reviews and even then you have to be careful as some reviews may be deliberate plants.
My long-time experience with CR is that they are unbiased, but as someone stated above, they are not sophisticated in everything, and particularly not with cameras. Skilled photographers have needs far above those that CR reviews for, and for them, CR is an inappropriate source of info. For the average joe, their reviews are right on!
Nov 14, 2013 13:17:55 #
CR evaluates price vs specs. They reach conclusions by price comparisons not necesisarily quality alone. Years ago the Canon F-! one of the best film cameras of its time was not rated at all because it was judged not worth the price as they were judging bfor the "average consumer" The Nikon D-4 or the Canon 1Dx will never be looked at for the same reasons
Nov 14, 2013 13:35:22 #
I don't know that that analogy holds water ergo their ratings of the Telsa recently & that isn't a "consumer" type car...
boberic wrote:
CR evaluates price vs specs. They reach conclusions by price comparisons not necesisarily quality alone. Years ago the Canon F-! one of the best film cameras of its time was not rated at all because it was judged not worth the price as they were judging bfor the "average consumer" The Nikon D-4 or the Canon 1Dx will never be looked at for the same reasons
Nov 14, 2013 13:54:11 #
Screamin Scott wrote:
I don't know that that analogy holds water ergo their ratings of the Telsa recently & that isn't a "consumer" type car...
Perhaps not but it as promoted as the answer to our end of oil usage and the gov was heavily invested it it's success so consumer reports was obligated to report on it. Sorry for the confusing grammar
Nov 14, 2013 14:00:19 #
I'd be more inclined to buy a Hydrogen fuel cell vehicle myself as opposed to an all electric as the electricity to power the Telsa has to come from the current grid & with power plants supplying that energy, it's not a very green way to go. Wind & solar are upcoming, but have a very long way to go to be able to anywhere meet our power demands..... The fuel cell supplies the electricity & the by product is water vapor.. (sorry for getting off topic)
boberic wrote:
Perhaps not but it as promoted as the answer to our end of oil usage and the gov was heavily invested it it's success so consumer reports was obligated to report on it. Sorry for the confusing grammar
Nov 14, 2013 14:38:01 #
Consumer reports is just like AARP....they both have hidden agendas and you really should not believe either.
Nov 14, 2013 14:48:31 #
I used the wrong word with "biased". What I meant to say was that CR sometimes chooses parameters of products to emphasize that I wouldn't necessarily choose, and doesn't pay attention to something that might be important to me. For example, in cameras, video capability is not relevant to my usage, but "feel" and placement of controls is.
I highly respect CR, and my previous comment was not meant as a slam in any way.
I highly respect CR, and my previous comment was not meant as a slam in any way.
Nov 14, 2013 14:58:46 #
sumo wrote:
Consumer reports is just like AARP....they both have hidden agendas and you really should not believe either.
Oh my! A conspiracy to undermine our nation, perhaps? Do tell. :twisted:
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