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limitation of Nikon D7100 and 18-55mm kit lens
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Oct 25, 2013 15:45:20   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
I think this the right group to post in. I used D7100 body, full manual, f8, ISO 200, 18-55mm AF-S DX kit lens at 55mm, VR off, tripod mounted, 75-100 feet away , manual focus on leaf group in center of frame, EV on my spot meter was 10 for the unshaded areas. The shot in my opinion lacks clarity, crispness, snap or whatever the buzzword is in use now. We all know the 24mpx DX sensor is capable of more.
Is this all the lens is capable of, do i expect too much of the combination or is my technique missing something crucial for good results? Please give it to me straight, i feel naked enough just coming up here to ask the question.



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Oct 25, 2013 15:52:15   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
Original image 6000X4000 jpeg fine, large. I sent a 1500X1000 image because that is what i would normally post to my site.

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Oct 25, 2013 16:03:06   #
Bill Houghton Loc: New York area
 
Are you saying you took this as a JPG or was it taken in Raw. An what if any PP have you done. I see a much more betterest image after PP>

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Oct 25, 2013 16:27:21   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
jpg fine large no photoshop, what pp adjustment did you find gave improvement?

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Oct 25, 2013 16:28:12   #
Bill Houghton Loc: New York area
 
with your permission I will post it. I am referring to Light Room.
I reset the contrast and brought up clarity, adjust some of the red. I also notice you were a touch out of focus. You might want try setting your focus points and see if that helps.



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Oct 25, 2013 16:32:33   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
have at it, do with me as you will

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Oct 25, 2013 16:38:40   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
Bill, is there a difference between reply and quick reply?

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Oct 25, 2013 16:42:22   #
Bill Houghton Loc: New York area
 
None that I have seen, always keep on tab open in my mail box so I see any notifications come in. I know if you don't refresh the screen you won't see any replies to your Thread. You have to go out and come back in. So I just use my incoming mail folder. The count goes one, then I have a response or comment to the post I have responded to..

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Oct 25, 2013 16:46:21   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
downloaded your adjustmensts, can readily see the improvement PP offers, thank you. back to original question, what can i expect from this body lens combination, am i approaching the limit or do i just need to get more careful in my setups?

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Oct 25, 2013 16:48:56   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
downloaded your adjustmensts, can readily see the improvement PP offers, thank you. back to original question, what can i expect from this body lens combination, am i approaching the limit or do i just need to get more careful in my setups?

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Oct 25, 2013 16:54:44   #
Bill Houghton Loc: New York area
 
I know you have have one of top end camera as DX goes. Nikon does have a fairly good lens as Kit lens. I have only a lowly D3200 and D60X, I us the two Kit lens quite often, but prefer to use my Sigma 70-300 or Sigma 10-20. There will be a load of folks that can you advice. By tomorrow, you will buried in responses. I do know that you will need to take a few hundred photos before you are comfortable with any new camera.

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Oct 25, 2013 17:04:54   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
sorry, got lost there for a minute...Have a D3100 i use for setting up my F4 before using expensive film and it is the reason i went to the 7100. I'll think about what you've done and await responses. appreciate your time Bill, have yourself a good day! By

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Oct 25, 2013 17:11:17   #
Bill Houghton Loc: New York area
 
I might want to try that Light Room, the free 30 day trail offer. The Clarity slider is great help. You can go to You Tube and Just do a search on the Light Room, it can be your best friend.

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Oct 25, 2013 17:56:01   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
oldtigger wrote:
Bill, is there a difference between reply and quick reply?


There is a difference between Reply and Quote Reply. You should almost always use Quote Reply (see above for what happens) so people know what you are replying to. Your post does not come below the post you are replying to but at the end.

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Oct 25, 2013 18:08:54   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
oldtigger wrote:
I think this the right group to post in. I used D7100 body, full manual, f8, ISO 200, 18-55mm AF-S DX kit lens at 55mm, VR off, tripod mounted, 75-100 feet away , manual focus on leaf group in center of frame, EV on my spot meter was 10 for the unshaded areas. The shot in my opinion lacks clarity, crispness, snap or whatever the buzzword is in use now. We all know the 24mpx DX sensor is capable of more.
Is this all the lens is capable of, do i expect too much of the combination or is my technique missing something crucial for good results? Please give it to me straight, i feel naked enough just coming up here to ask the question.
I think this the right group to post in. I used D7... (show quote)


I think the photo is pretty good technically. You certainly could do more in Lightroom or with other filters.

Certainly with the D7100 the 18-55mm kit lens could be a limiting factor. You'd definitely get a sharper picture with, for example, Nikon's f1.8 35mm lens. But the 18-55 is pretty good and I do not consider it your limiting factor here.

In the end I feel the problem is composition. There isn't anything there to capture and hold a viewers attention. They aren't brought into some specific subject or led to appreciate a pattern. I don't get a story from it.

How about trying some examples that have some of the above?

(PS: I think it silly to manually focus unless the scene makes it necessary; i.e. the camera won't focus. I always use single point focus do I put the focus where I want it to be and then use the autofocus to do it's job. I am rarely disappointed.)

(PSS: Not sure what you mean by EV is 10. The meter on D800 only goes up to plus or minus 3)

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