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Oct 20, 2013 10:24:20   #
kubota king Loc: NW , Pa.
 
I have been searching on the internet how to get the correct WB using Photoshop ( since I use Photoshop ) there were videos for other programs too. And I took all I learned and put it into my new way of correcting WB in my photos and other people's photos I download or scan onto my computer > I tried my process on several photos to see how it worked . I liked the out come of each . So I thought I would share it with you ... I found that a lot of the professional photographers use a gray card to get the correct WB before they start there photo shoots .


This is my way of getting a grey card WB correction for photos already taken , from everything I learned ....


I open a photo inside photoshop . I pick a spot on my photo , and then I spray a medium grey color spot about 1/8 to 1/4 dia. I then click on the ( create new fill or adjustment layer ) then in the list that pops up , I click on Levels . A new Tool Box opens , and on the left there are 3 eye droppers . I click on the middle eye dropper ( sample in image to set grey point ) I then use the eye dropper to click on the grey spot I painted in the photo , and the colors are adjusted to the correct WB. I can even set up a default adjustment after I do one , to allow me to apply this adjustment to all photos with out having to go thru the same procedure for each .


You may be able to find how to do this same type of procedure with your program .

Hope this helps at least some of you if not all , Tommy

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Oct 20, 2013 10:42:54   #
Heirloom Tomato Loc: Oregon
 
Tommy, do you have a Kubota dealership? Mow your lawn with one? Something in between? Curious about your UHH name...

In my program (PSE11) there is a "correct color cast" box in the guided edit section that instructs "click the eyedropper tool on an area that should be white, gray or black." Once you do that the program adjusts the photo to look pretty much how the white balance should be. Works like magic and is so simple (to the user).

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Oct 20, 2013 12:45:55   #
kubota king Loc: NW , Pa.
 
Heirloom Tomato wrote:
Tommy, do you have a Kubota dealership? Mow your lawn with one? Something in between? Curious about your UHH name...

In my program (PSE11) there is a "correct color cast" box in the guided edit section that instructs "click the eyedropper tool on an area that should be white, gray or black." Once you do that the program adjusts the photo to look pretty much how the white balance should be. Works like magic and is so simple (to the user).


To answer your 1st question . I got my name from a buddy years ago I worked with . I have owned 8 Kubota tractors over the last 30 + yrs . All new ones except 2 . I now own a 32hp Kubota tractor that I bought new last yr. that I mow lawns , till up gardens , pull my 1000# or my 2500# rollers , plow snow in the small drive ways where I now live . I traded by big 55hp Kubota w/cab and front loader to a buddy last year which was 10 yrs old for his massy , and took his massy and traded it in on a 85HP Mahindra w/cab and front loader which I use to do many jobs .

I watched a video on how to do WB corrections using PSE 11 , but I prefer Photoshop CS which I have used for years before the CS versions came out

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Oct 20, 2013 12:46:36   #
Chuck_893 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA
 
Heirloom Tomato wrote:
In my program (PSE11) there is a "correct color cast" box in the guided edit section that instructs "click the eyedropper tool on an area that should be white, gray or black." Once you do that the program adjusts the photo to look pretty much how the white balance should be. Works like magic and is so simple (to the user).

Yes indeedy, but I think what Tommy is saying is that you can create your own neutral gray (or for that matter white or black) spot somewhere in the picture and "correct color cast" on it, which sounds like a hecka idea! I will have to try it! The trouble I sometimes run into is finding that existing "something" in the picture that "should be white, gray, or black." You've probably noticed that you can click here, there, and everywhere and shift the thing all over the place. If Tommy's trick works (I haven't tried it yet) then you would have what amounts to a known 18% gray target in the picture, which you then delete. If it works, it sounds swell! :thumbup: If it works this thread should go to Post-Processing Digital Images.

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Oct 20, 2013 12:53:49   #
kubota king Loc: NW , Pa.
 
Chuck_893 wrote:
Yes indeedy, but I think what Tommy is saying is that you can create your own neutral gray (or for that matter white or black) spot somewhere in the picture and "correct color cast" on it, which sounds like a hecka idea! I will have to try it! The trouble I sometimes run into is finding that existing "something" in the picture that "should be white, gray, or black." You've probably noticed that you can click here, there, and everywhere and shift the thing all over the place. If Tommy's trick works (I haven't tried it yet) then you would have what amounts to a known 18% gray target in the picture, which you then delete. If it works, it sounds swell! :thumbup: If it works this thread should go to Post-Processing Digital Images.
Yes indeedy, but I think what Tommy is saying is t... (show quote)


Glad you understand my Idea , I think I will take your idea and post it in the Post-Processing . From what I have learned here in a short time is a lot of members don't check or don't know about the PP section . It doesn't show up in the email letter I get each day as one of the topics , others have said the same thing , even when you select it to .

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Oct 20, 2013 12:57:04   #
Heirloom Tomato Loc: Oregon
 
Chuck_893 wrote:
Yes indeedy, but I think what Tommy is saying is that you can create your own neutral gray (or for that matter white or black) spot somewhere in the picture and "correct color cast" on it, which sounds like a hecka idea! I will have to try it! The trouble I sometimes run into is finding that existing "something" in the picture that "should be white, gray, or black." You've probably noticed that you can click here, there, and everywhere and shift the thing all over the place. If Tommy's trick works (I haven't tried it yet) then you would have what amounts to a known 18% gray target in the picture, which you then delete. If it works, it sounds swell! :thumbup: If it works this thread should go to Post-Processing Digital Images.
Yes indeedy, but I think what Tommy is saying is t... (show quote)


Yes, I got what he was saying, and I have noticed how easy it is to not get the clicking thing right. I'll try to remember to try Tommy's trick sometime soon.

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Oct 20, 2013 13:01:21   #
Chuck_893 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA
 
kubota king wrote:
Glad you understand my Idea , I think I will take your idea and post it in the Post-Processing . From what I have learned here in a short time is a lot of members don't check or don't know about the PP section . It doesn't show up in the email letter I get each day as one of the topics , others have said the same thing , even when you select it to .

I am trying to do my bit to help Searcher put that category on the map because I think it could have a lot of value. I just posted over there. I'm learning all the time, both digital and post-processing. But meanwhile there's no reason NOT to have things like your idea in the main section where folks will be SURE to see it until the Post-Processing thing takes off. :-)

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Oct 20, 2013 13:02:33   #
Heirloom Tomato Loc: Oregon
 
kubota king wrote:
To answer your 1st question . I got my name from a buddy years ago I worked with . I have owned 8 Kubota tractors over the last 30 + yrs . All new ones except 2 . I now own a 32hp Kubota tractor that I bought new last yr. that I mow lawns , till up gardens , pull my 1000# or my 2500# rollers , plow snow in the small drive ways where I now live . I traded by big 55hp Kubota w/cab and front loader to a buddy last year which was 10 yrs old for his massy , and took his massy and traded it in on a 85HP Mahindra w/cab and front loader which I use to do many jobs .

I watched a video on how to do WB corrections using PSE 11 , but I prefer Photoshop CS which I have used for years before the CS versions came out
To answer your 1st question . I got my name from a... (show quote)


Thanks for satisfying my curiosity about the name. I only have one Kubota, bought new about fifteen years ago. It's a riding mower which I ride like a bucking bronco around 4 acres of bumpy meadow grass to keep the place from going wild. Expensive it was, but it's a wonderful machine which puts many other brands to shame.

I don't have full Photoshop and was glad to find something in PSE that (usually) gives an easy fix. I like your tip though and will try it if I get in trouble. :P

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Oct 20, 2013 13:28:17   #
kubota king Loc: NW , Pa.
 
Chuck_893 wrote:
I am trying to do my bit to help Searcher put that category on the map because I think it could have a lot of value. I just posted over there. I'm learning all the time, both digital and post-processing. But meanwhile there's no reason NOT to have things like your idea in the main section where folks will be SURE to see it until the Post-Processing thing takes off. :-)


I was one of the members he asked to post some of my tricks I have learned over the years in PP . I just posted this tip over there after reading your post . I forgot about him asking already , thanks for reminding me . It will soon come natural to post there also . Still can't figure out why administration doesn't include it on the list after you check it as one of the topics I see when I click on the email letter they send me each day

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Oct 21, 2013 06:15:58   #
nekon Loc: Carterton, New Zealand
 
White balance check:

Ctrl+J
Filter>blur>average
new adjustment layer- Curves or levels-click on middle eye dropper
Click on image-click "OK
Delete middle layer
Flatten and save
image corrected!

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Oct 21, 2013 06:36:48   #
normanhall Loc: Leslie Missouri
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqS9Edy2BYY

this is a good video on finding white point, black point and grey using photoshop tools

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Oct 21, 2013 07:50:48   #
kubota king Loc: NW , Pa.
 
More testing showed my idea didn't work every time after all. I have watched many videos on how to get the correct WB . I want to come up with something that is easy , then can repeat the correct WB no matter how far the WB is off each time . Back to the drawing board , sorry . Tommy

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Oct 21, 2013 08:38:36   #
Chuck_893 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA
 
kubota king wrote:
More testing showed my idea didn't work every time after all. I have watched many videos on how to get the correct WB . I want to come up with something that is easy , then can repeat the correct WB no matter how far the WB is off each time . Back to the drawing board , sorry . Tommy

S'aright, Tommy. I've been trying to make it work in PSE-11 and can't, but PSE-11 (we all know) is not Photoshop. I liked nekon's idea——
nekon wrote:
White balance check:
Ctrl+J
Filter>blur>average
new adjustment layer- Curves or levels-click on middle eye dropper
Click on image-click "OK
Delete middle layer
Flatten and save
image corrected!

…but I can't make that work in PSE-11 either. If I apply filter>blur>average to an original yucky-looking-shot-under-fluorescent-lights image, the whole image turns to a slightly off-color "gray card." I open an adjustment layer in levels, click the "gray card" with the gray eyedropper, and it instantly changes to a perfectly neutral "gray card." The problem is how to get back to the original image. I've tried using another adjustment layer, a plain layer—nothing seems to work on any layer other than the original. :hunf: I shall doggedly continue to experiment at the risk of my marriage. :lol:

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Oct 21, 2013 08:44:09   #
normanhall Loc: Leslie Missouri
 
Chuck_893 wrote:
…but I can't make that work in PSE-11 either. If I apply filter>blur>average to an original yucky-looking-shot-under-fluorescent-lights image, the whole image turns to a slightly off-color "gray card." I open an adjustment layer in levels, click the "gray card" with the gray eyedropper, and it instantly changes to a perfectly neutral "gray card." The problem is how to get back to the original image. I've tried using another adjustment layer, a plain layer—nothing seems to work on any layer other than the original. :hunf: I shall doggedly continue to experiment at the risk of my marriage. :lol:
…but I can't make that work in PSE-11 either. If I... (show quote)


if i understand this correctly once you use the eyedropper tool delete the layer with the grey and the levels adjustment will show on the bottom layer.

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Oct 21, 2013 08:50:55   #
Chuck_893 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA
 
normanhall wrote:
if i understand this correctly once you use the eyedropper tool delete the layer with the grey and the levels adjustment will show on the bottom layer.

I'm pretty sure that's right, but perhaps only in full-dress Photoshop, maybe not in Elements 11. I've been trying every way I can to get an adjustment layer (or any other layer) that will give me the "gray card" effect, but no luck. The only layer that allows the effect is the layer with the original image on it, which I can't delete. I have the feeling that I am this close, :mrgreen: but it may be impossible in Elements 11. :cry:

This is the yucky original. I know how to fix it, but now I want to fix it using the "gray card" technique we're discussing.
This is the yucky original. I know how to fix it, ...

See? Here's one edited version. I just didn't edit it the way we are discussing, and I want to.
See? Here's one edited version. I just didn't edit...

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