Voter laws (Page 2): Well if that were true there would be widespread voter fraud! So where is it? Inquiring minds want to know! I'll be waiting for the stats.

ole sarg Loc: south florida

Well if that were true there would be widespread voter fraud! So where is it?

Inquiring minds want to know!

I'll be waiting for the stats.

Budnjax wrote:

This is utter B.S.! Every place that has voter ID... (show quote)

KW Conch Loc: USA

venturer9 wrote:

Here is a URL that I would like for you to read and comment on....

Before you comment on the article, I would appreciate it if you have a Picture ID Card let us know. ... Non USA Citizens are welcome to participate even though the article is about the USA only....

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/30/justice-department-set-sue-nc-over-voter-id-law/

Mike

I live in NC. I have no problem with showing an ID to vote even though there has been no evidence that it is a problem. However, the rest of the provisions were clearly an effort at voter suppression and we both know it.

KW Conch Loc: USA

venturer9 wrote:

I will even be the first to reply and comment.. br... (show quote)

Why would you have a problem with having a longer period of earlier voting. Before early voting, I remember the long lines and I don't even live in a big city.
What was the purpose of eliminating polling stations near college campuses ? What was the reason to force students to vote in their home town rather then the town where their school is located even if they have to travel 300 miles on election day ? Voter suppression is the only answer.

KW Conch Loc: USA

Budnjax wrote:

This is utter B.S.! Every place that has voter ID... (show quote)

It has to be a government issued ID. College ID's are no longer valid.
Also, don't you think there is more opportunity for voter fraud by mail than by showing up at the polls ?

Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles

Voter ID laws are supported by Conservatives and opposed by Liberals for exactly the same reason: Voter ID laws make it harder to commit voter fraud.

rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA

Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:

Voter ID laws are supported by Conservatives and opposed by Liberals for exactly the same reason: Voter ID laws make it harder to commit voter fraud.

The thing is, voter fraud is almost non-existent. Ballot machines that have been tampered with is far more of a problem than the extremely rare incidents of individuals getting in line multiple times to cast a vote.

KW Conch Loc: USA

rook2c4 wrote:

The thing is, voter fraud is almost non-existent. Ballot machines that have been tampered with is far more of a problem than the extremely rare incidents of individuals getting in line multiple times to cast a vote.

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Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles

KW Conch wrote:

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In the recent elections many districts had more votes for Obama than they had legitimate voters in total.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

rook2c4 wrote:

The burden is on low income people. A good percent... (show quote)

BS AT IT'S BEST. When they need a Calfresh card they run right out and get it.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

rook2c4 wrote:

The thing is, voter fraud is almost non-existent. Ballot machines that have been tampered with is far more of a problem than the extremely rare incidents of individuals getting in line multiple times to cast a vote.

If we do not require ID how do you know that voter fraud is almost non existent?

rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA

letmedance wrote:

If we do not require ID how do you know that voter fraud is almost non existent?

There are maybe a few dozen at best. Think about it: get in line, vote, get back in line, vote again... just to add additional personal votes and at the risk of getting caught and criminally prosecuted. This is simply not happening on a massive scale, despite what some politicians and media personalities are suggesting.

On the other hand, ID laws will with certainty keep tens of thousands from voting because they do not have the required ID due to financial cost. The discontinuation early voting will have a similar effect - keep low income citizens away from the polls and casting their vote.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

We are not talking about getting back in line for a second go. We are talking about people voting from the grave, non citizens voting, and so on.
If the poor ignorant voters can get govt aid then they darn sure can get a legal ID.
Wake up and think, what will you and your children do when they take away your last freedom because you were to blind to see the truth.

rook2c4 wrote:

There are maybe a few dozen at best. Think about i... (show quote)

venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.

ole sarg wrote:

Well if that were true there would be widespread voter fraud! So where is it?

Inquiring minds want to know!

I'll be waiting for the stats.

Sarg.... if I recall a while back, the liberal/Democratic side was caterwauling about the Republicans committing voter fraud... in fact they complained about it on and on and on...

BUT now there is no reason for id's ... Voter Fraud does not exist...

Doesn't that seem a little odd to you.....

Mike

venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.

ole sarg wrote:

What are you talking about? I attended a Obama campaign rally and was never IDd!

I have never attended either a democrat nor Republican Rally (Well, guess that is a gross misstatement... I have attend FREE dinners provided by various candidates of both parties.. HEY, a free dinner is a free dinner..... sorry)

BUT the "Main Stream" media ie the liberal ones have often spoken of the need to have some kind of id in order to get into an Obama function...

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/kevinglass/2012/06/15/obama_checks_ids_at_campaign_events

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/you-need-photo-id-to-attend-obamas-rally

THIS one has nothing about id's but it gives directions on how to comport yourself so that the "TROLL REPUBLICANS" will have nothing to day other than how nice you were...... YOU WILL ENJOY IT... And it is from the dailykos... a site I am sure you are very familiar with..

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/18/1121683/-How-to-attend-an-Obama-rally

OH.. and before you come back with some silly excuse that the sites I have put on here are just Right Wing Rags..... It is amazing how much actual information a person can get by being open minded and reading or watching the "Opposition" media rather than just sites that parrot what you believe....

Mike

venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.

rook2c4 wrote:

The thing is, voter fraud is almost non-existent. Ballot machines that have been tampered with is far more of a problem than the extremely rare incidents of individuals getting in line multiple times to cast a vote.

Of course I do not know how prevalent voter fraud is.... it is probably less than the Republicans claim and more than the Democrats claim.

I do know that a good friend of mine got herself in serious trouble several years ago by going to Nursing Homes and "Helping the old/blind and lame to vote her choices... ie Democrat" In the indictment is was claimed that she had turned in 92 such fraudulent "absentee ballots" This was probably close to 30 years ago and she passed away 6 years ago..... She was still my friend when she passed away and Always claimed she had been railroaded.... lol..

Mike