heyrob Loc: Western Washington

So why is the liberal logic always to go "well Billy did it so it okay for me"? The difference between corporate "welfare" and social welfare is with corporate welfare the big corporations are getting by without paying anything, while with social welfare we the tax payers are paying the way for those who don't work legitimately or not. I think as long as it's hitting me in the pocket book, I'll try to stop the bleeding first them resume battle over the rest of the cheaters.

Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY

Which is why they do.


To accomplish this you may also have to take them away from their parents, or parent. By the way Frank, you can pay more taxes, simply send a donation to the IRS. 8-)

Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA

So, put up or shut up. In the last years I have numbers for, the data show that:
People who identify themselves as conservatives donate money to charity more often than people who identify themselves as liberals.
They donate more money and a higher percentage of their incomes.
Liberal families average 6 percent higher incomes than conservative families. But most of the states that voted for John Kerry during the 2004 election donated a lower percentage of their incomes to charity than the states that voted for George W. Bush.
Conservatives not only donate more money to charity than liberals do, conservatives volunteer more time as well.
More conservatives than liberals donate blood.
Young liberals make the least charitable contributions of all, whether in money, time or blood. Idealism in words is not idealism in deeds.
For years the left in this country have run on a platform of being the compassionate party, the party that wants to help. Except, apparently, when it comes time to actually do something that requires cost or effort. The party reviled as capitalist hoarders or uncaring fat-cats are the ones that spend more of their own time and money to actually help people. It’s been that way since Carnegie divested his wealth building libraries.

MyPharo Loc: New Jersey

When Corporations do not pay taxes and get huge tax breaks / credits / grants , etc .. who do you think makes up for the short falls . Hmm You N Me .. and its not a small $ amount.

Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA

When corporations do pay taxes, who really pays them?

Hmm You N Me.

heyrob Loc: Western Washington

Again, I make no excuses for the corporations who get by Scott free, but that too is the fault of our non-representative, representatives. My point is you excuse one abuse, by pointing to another. Neither is Okay, but as I pointed out when the government picks my pockets to unconstitutionally give that money to someone else, that is a completely different thing than giving big business a way to not pay taxes in the first place.

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

Errr... the rich Democrats are in power now,not the republicans.
Wake up and stop drinking the kool aid.

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

How much of your wealth are you donating today?Any.Give us an idea of your generosity.

heyrob Loc: Western Washington

I've always found it amusing how liberals and even atheists quote Jesus and claim he'd be a liberal. Employing modern political terms such as “liberal” and “conservative” to someone who live 2,000 years ago is an absurd game to play because those terms as they are used today do not even apply to people who lived a few centuries ago. The original meaning of “liberal,” for example, was what we today call a “classical liberal,” or someone who believes in laissez faire capitalism and small government. Followers of Adam Smith were liberals, but today are called classical liberals, or conservatives, because they want to conserve the political and economic principles of classical Enlightenment thought. Those who are vehemently opposed to these conservative principles are sometimes today called progressives, who want to progress beyond—instead of conserving—classical liberalism, and their type specimen is Franklin D. Roosevelt, who originally had the support of pro-laissez faire capitalists until he launched the New Deal. One of FDR’s ideological descendents was Bill Clinton, who turned out to be one of the strongest Democratic proponents of free markets in history, which makes him, what? A conservatively classical progressive liberal? You can see how odious such label making becomes even for modern folks.

Pentony Loc: Earth Traveller

From the U S Constitution: we are "..... entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...." The key word is pursuit.

You have the right to pursue happiness but you are not automatically entitled to be happy, AND certainly not at another person's expense.

In other words, if you don't WORK to achieve your happiness, you are not entitled to have happiness.

How does one achieve happiness? You EARN it by
1. making good grades in school
2. graduating high school, not being a drop out
3. earning money by
-- finding a job and working or
-- if no job is available you create a job (entrepreneur)

Happiness is earned and that requires working towards it without any guarantee of achieving it.

Socialism does not work. It kills the human drive to achieve. I am not my brother's keeper.

Capitalism works as long as restrictions (laws) are placed on it to curtail greed without completely stifling Capitalism.

So if you are earning money, income, then you can pay for your own health care.

crissx09 Loc: FL-USA

I understand it is our own responsibility to take care of ourselves or even not to get sick if you will.. But..if by chance you found yourself temporally without an income and get sick..is it fair you will spend till the last penny you may have saved and even lose your home to pay for medical bills..? What about your family.?
Let me state that personally I have been lucky.I am very healthy, I never was with out a job and in my entire life I never apply for any kind of social assistance. Don't let the system be abused... but have it !!!

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

I am living on Social Security. I have Medicare - no Medicaid. Stayed three weeks in hospital back in January and I owe on my part $2,000. More than what I get in Social Security. No matter how much I pay on what I owe, the bills keep coming in and the amount keeps getting higher. No way out.

gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch

And that is the crux if the issue - the Progressives firmly believe in the right to enslave, expressly violating the individual right to liberty. They try to hide it behind benevolent altruism ( via government force) which is really not benevolent at all. It is wicked to it's core and everything it infects becomes polluted and is eventually destroyed. As I have said many times, these people are the most corrupt and dangerous on this earth.

crissx09 Loc: FL-USA

And you still thinking the system is fair to you...?

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

Which system do you mean? I favor the system I grew up with. I favor the system I had before I got sick. I favor the system our founding fathers laid out for us to have in the Constitution Of the United States of American. I favor the system that so many had fought for, such as I and for those that had died so that we many have freedom. Not one man fought for Socialism, nor did any die for Socialism but for Liberty.