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Sep 28, 2013 14:19:54   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
Why don't we just flush the money down the toilet? In a couple of months they will just come back for more and more ad finitum.

Obama Administration Commits $320 Million for Bankrupt Detroit

Friday, 27 Sep 2013 06:05 PM



With $320 million of federal, state and private aid in hand, top White House officials came to Detroit and vowed to help the bankrupt city fight crime, improve mass transport and eradicate blight.

The money is mostly grants from federal or state programs for which the city is qualified, or for which it needed red tape cut to speed access. Some is expected from private businesses and philanthropy groups. President Barack Obama also has appointed Don Graves deputy assistant secretary of the U.S. Treasury Department, to oversee Detroit’s recovery, said Gene Sperling, director of the National Economic Council.

“We only have one goal, and that is to have all of Detroit working together for one Detroit, with the Obama administration as a key partner,” Sperling said today.

The city, once an auto-manufacturing powerhouse, declared the largest U.S. municipal bankruptcy in history on July 18 after years of decline in which its population fell by more than half, to 700,000 from 1.8 million. The city has more than $18 billion in long-term obligations and is plagued by unreliable buses, broken street lights and long waits for police and ambulances.
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Sperling led a delegation that included Attorney General Eric Holder, Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan and Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx. They met for more than two hours privately with about 70 city and state officials, as well as community leaders who included Mayor Dave Bing, a Democrat; emergency manager Kevyn Orr and Republican Governor Rick Snyder, who appointed Orr in March.

Civic Singularity

Asked at a press conference why it took so long for the federal government to intervene in a city that has declined for decades, Sperling replied, “With bankruptcy, this is an exceptional thing that requires exceptional effort.”

The actions underscore the fine line the administration and state officials must walk, tapping existing programs and unused or underutilized funds, while not asking Congress for federal dollars. Top lawmakers and administration officials have said there is no pathway for a federal bailout of the city.

Donovan said it doesn’t matter whether the aid to Detroit is considered new or redirected money.

“A family living next to a blighted house, they don’t care whether it’s new money or old money they never would have seen,” Donovan said. “It’s money that will make a difference in their view.”

Heavy Lift

Sperling said another meeting is planned this year to discuss education and job training.

“We don’t expect this to be easy, but we expect this to be successful,” he said

Bing said Detroiters will see positive change in two or three years.

Some city debt rallied today. General-obligation bonds maturing in April 2028 traded at about 94 cents on the dollar, the highest since July 18, when the city filed for bankruptcy. The yield on the securities, backed by Assured Guaranty Corp., is 2.23 percentage points more than top-rated bonds, the smallest gap since July 15.

The White House will commit $150 million for demolition of blighted properties and neighborhood redevelopment, in federal and other funds.

Empty City

Grants of $65 million and $25.4 million from public and private sources will be used to tear down and refurbish buildings. Detroit has almost 70,000 empty and abandoned homes and 80,000 empty lots, amounting to 20 square miles of vacant land, about the size of Manhattan, according to a Detroit Future City report.

The demolition money is welcome, though with a typical cost of $10,000 to tear down each forsaken structure, much more is needed, said John George, founder of Motor City Blight Busters Inc. His group is working to secure and remove empty structures primarily on the northwest side.

“We’ll take what we can get,” George said in an interview. “Blight is like a cancer: If you don’t nip it in the bud, it spreads and kills everything. You’ve got to start chemotherapy, if you will, especially in the neighborhoods.”

The Obama administration also announced $3 million from the Justice Department for additional police officers, establishing a bike patrol and supporting youth anti-violence programs. The Federal Emergency Management Agency will expedite access to $25 million to hire 150 firefighters and to buy equipment.

First Step

Police take an average of 58 minutes to respond to priority calls, compared with a national average of 11 minutes, Orr said in a June report. The department’s roster has shrunk by 40 percent since 2003, he said.

“The only way to rebuild the city is to provide a safe environment for residents and businesses,” said Mark Diaz, president of the Detroit Police Officers Association. “We need a lot of work. It’s going to take more than one gesture, but we’re excited about the recognition by the White House.”

The Obama administration will deploy almost $140 million in transit funding, by ensuring access to more than $100 million in Transportation Department grants, including $24 million for bus repairs and security cameras, according to the announcement. Another $25 million in grants will be made available to help a streetcar project.

“These are funds that are greatly appreciated,” said Megan Owens, executive director of Transit Riders United, a Detroit-based nonprofit organization. Typically, one of every six buses is off the road for repairs, Owens said.

“It results in extremely overcrowded buses, people left at bus stops,” she said. “In recent months it feels like it’s getting worse.”

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Sep 28, 2013 14:28:27   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
The neighborhood where my grandparents lived is a ghost town now. Nothing is there anymore.

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Sep 28, 2013 14:36:16   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
TrainNut wrote:
The neighborhood where my grandparents lived is a ghost town now. Nothing is there anymore.


Do you think we should be pouring money into a City that is so poorly run that they will probably go bankrupt? Once we open the flood gates to Detroit wait for the rush for help from all the other cities that are in bad financial straits like Chicago, Los Angeles et al. It is also interesting that they can find this money when the government is close to a shut down. That's politics for you.

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Sep 28, 2013 14:57:34   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
bcheary wrote:
Do you think we should be pouring money into a City that is so poorly run that they will probably go bankrupt? Once we open the flood gates to Detroit wait for the rush for help from all the other cities that are in bad financial straits like Chicago, Los Angeles et al. It is also interesting that they can find this money when the government is close to a shut down. That's politics for you.


I think we should auction off DetROIT to the highest bidder.

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Sep 28, 2013 15:16:21   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
TrainNut wrote:
I think we should auction off DetROIT to the highest bidder.


Absolutely not. We'd need passports to enter or pass through after the Chinese buy it.

Sarge69

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Sep 28, 2013 16:06:51   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
sarge69 wrote:
Absolutely not. We'd need passports to enter or pass through after the Chinese buy it.

Sarge69


Yea they have a good 1/8th scale train on 13 mile.

http://www.greatlakeslivesteamers.org/

Never mind it is in Royal Oak.
Sell DetROIT. ;-)

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Sep 28, 2013 17:04:49   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
TrainNut wrote:
I think we should auction off DetROIT to the highest bidder.


:lol: :lol: I doubt if you find any takers. Maybe a Muslim might!

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Sep 28, 2013 17:05:04   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
sarge69 wrote:
Absolutely not. We'd need passports to enter or pass through after the Chinese buy it.

Sarge69


:lol: :lol:

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Sep 28, 2013 21:07:15   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
bcheary wrote:
:lol: :lol: I doubt if you find any takers. Maybe a Muslim might!


Dearborn is right next to DetROIT.

The City of Dearborn, Michigan has issued an apology as part of a settlement reached between city officials and three Christians who were arrested in 2010 while engaging in evangelistic activity at a local festival attended by many Muslims.
From:
http://christiannews.net/2013/05/07/michigan-city-regrets-and-apologizes-for-arresting-christians-evangelizing-muslims-at-arab-festival/

Hamtramck is inside DetROIT.
"Michigan: the Islamic capital of the US"
"As of 2005, Michigan held the largest and still growing Muslim population in the United States and the second largest Arab population outside of the Middle East."
"Although hundreds of long-time residents of Hamtramck, MI protested the city allowing the five-times-per-day Muslim call to prayer to be broadcast over Hamtramck's loudspeakers, the city council voted unanimously in April 2004 to allow it. Prior to the city council making its decision, public input from any citizens (except Muslims) had not been allowed. This continues today. Hamtramck resident Bob Golen was outraged by the city council's actions and said: "So they had made up their mind before any public meeting and it's been five-nothing ever since. This is only the beginning. They're going to use Hamtramck as a precedent. This is coming to your town, to the town down the road, and to the [next] town down the road." Golen added that, after the city council voted to allow the calls to prayer, one of the city councilmen said that he was "proud to set a precedent in this country.""
From:
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/zieve/070111
They are here.
Where is the ACLU protesting government involvement in religious practices?

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Sep 29, 2013 00:04:24   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
When disaster strikes across the country, we have no problem with providing disaster relief to those areas. It is all part of Americans helping Americans. Sometimes disaster comes in different forms. Michigan was hit by a major economic disaster when the auto companies closed plants in former thriving cities such as Flint, Pontiac, and Detroit. Now these cities have become economic shells, hit by a major economic disaster. Pontiac has had to shut down city hall, shut the fire stations and police stations and rely on coverage from a neighboring city. Even as a conservative I do not begrudge whatever help we might give to these devastated cities.

And, yes, there comes a time to demand total fiscal responsibility.

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Sep 29, 2013 08:47:15   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Very good points. Yes it is time to help those who have suffered through no fault of their own.

Detroit is an important city and it will come back. Just think about Pittsburg about 20 or so years ago.




SteveR wrote:
When disaster strikes across the country, we have no problem with providing disaster relief to those areas. It is all part of Americans helping Americans. Sometimes disaster comes in different forms. Michigan was hit by a major economic disaster when the auto companies closed plants in former thriving cities such as Flint, Pontiac, and Detroit. Now these cities have become economic shells, hit by a major economic disaster. Pontiac has had to shut down city hall, shut the fire stations and police stations and rely on coverage from a neighboring city. Even as a conservative I do not begrudge whatever help we might give to these devastated cities.

And, yes, there comes a time to demand total fiscal responsibility.
When disaster strikes across the country, we have ... (show quote)

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Sep 29, 2013 08:47:16   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Very good points. Yes it is time to help those who have suffered through no fault of their own.

Detroit is an important city and it will come back. Just think about Pittsburg about 20 or so years ago.




SteveR wrote:
When disaster strikes across the country, we have no problem with providing disaster relief to those areas. It is all part of Americans helping Americans. Sometimes disaster comes in different forms. Michigan was hit by a major economic disaster when the auto companies closed plants in former thriving cities such as Flint, Pontiac, and Detroit. Now these cities have become economic shells, hit by a major economic disaster. Pontiac has had to shut down city hall, shut the fire stations and police stations and rely on coverage from a neighboring city. Even as a conservative I do not begrudge whatever help we might give to these devastated cities.

And, yes, there comes a time to demand total fiscal responsibility.
When disaster strikes across the country, we have ... (show quote)

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Sep 29, 2013 08:50:35   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
I would rather open the gates for our cities than Bagdad!

Where was your umbridge when we went to war on a credit card?





bcheary wrote:
Do you think we should be pouring money into a City that is so poorly run that they will probably go bankrupt? Once we open the flood gates to Detroit wait for the rush for help from all the other cities that are in bad financial straits like Chicago, Los Angeles et al. It is also interesting that they can find this money when the government is close to a shut down. That's politics for you.

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Sep 29, 2013 09:13:31   #
K2mbs Loc: Southern Tier of, NY
 
Stop electing Democrats.
End the existence of unions.
The problems will go away by the effects of having conservatism and capitalism work.
Always worked until the hippy era arrived around 1968, and liberalism poisoned the greatest country ever realized to this day.

Seems to me, there are alot of American cars everywhere
Why then is the center of making them a total mess?
Democrats, and unions.

Name the conservative people, and policies involved in the collapse of.....Michigan?

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Sep 29, 2013 09:18:10   #
oldgabby Loc: Middle Tennessee
 
What was that old slogan? "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!"

Our government does not understand the meaning.
In Detroit, When the Auto industry fled, so did half the city.
The only ones left behind can't afford to leave. What is left?
The 'pound of cure' just won't work and is a waste.

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