Harvey wrote:
Gates is on the ball - no matter who we support over there both sides are still going to be fighting 10,000 yrs from now and both side will still hate our Christian lifestyle.
Is that not what is happening in Iraq and several other places over there - don't forget Somalia.
Appreciate your time Harvey
UP-2-IT wrote:
We all have our opinions on Syria and our reasoning for that opinion. Read the following statements from these experts and respond with your reasoning for your decision.
This will not go any further than right here, it is simply for our information. It is real easy to let our feelings control our casual responses here at the Hogg. Simply be honest and sincere in your reponse, forget the personal feelings a lot of us harbor.
keep in mind both of these gentlemen held the position of Secretary of Defense.
Robert Gates: US military action in Syria would be like throwing gasoline on an extremely complex fire in the Middle East. Havent Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya taught us something about the unintended consequences of military action once its launched?
Leon Panetta : Obama should have backed up his words with force and launched military strikes after the White House concluded that Assad had crossed a red line by using chemical weapons.
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Any action taken by the United States in that area of the world would be construed by those living there as damaging. If Syria and Russia are such good buddies then let them handle it. Assad's no friend of ours and neither are the extremist rebels he is fighting. Gates is correct and the threat vocalized by the President led to a concerted effort by Assad's buddy to act to prevent a bloody mess. Without the very real and very public threat to act as given by the President there may not have been as much effort put forth for a less violent settlement of the issue.
America is in a dire financial position that seems impossible to recover from. Money is being invented at an alarming rate and the national debt is almost unbelievable. Nonetheless the American government insists on being the world's policeman in the hope of maintaining the credibility it likes to imagine, or would like the populace to imagine, it has in the eyes of the rest of the world - no matter the cost involved. Perhaps waging another war can be seen as proof that the country is not broke and can afford it.
Just remember that the onus falls on the public, not the politicians or bankers,and things will be a little different when even the interest on the public debt can't be paid. But the already-wealthy never seem to be the first to suffer.
The books may be able to be cooked internally for consumption by a loyal and believing public, but foreign creditors may not take the same view. They won't have to get heavy. They'll need only to stop trading. Unless war is waged upon them and they're forced to.
Mike
Muslims are going to fight each other until the end of time.Sunnis and Shiites are bitter enemies.
they hate Christians and Jews as well.
Let them kill each other and we get on with our lives.
charlie
Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota
viscountdriver wrote:
Muslims are going to fight each other until the end of time.Sunnis and Shiites are bitter enemies.
they hate Christians and Jews as well.
Let them kill each other and we get on with our lives.
True. It is a sad realism, and we should stay out of the fray. Let them settle their own differences.
What an excellent set of replies well done to all participants
Being a veteran of two wars an three conflicts, I totally agree with Gates. During the Iraqi War, I was assigned to the last M.A.S.H. unit in the Army. There is where I saw the real price of a war. They have lived in constant fights, rebellions, wars, etc; for thousand or more years. It is futile to attempt to change them. They always bite the hand that feeds them. Unless the whole UN sends equal amount of resources and have the same intentions/resolve, then let us keep out of it and work on our own problems.
I think we should arm both sides, keeps our arms industry busy and we not involved in a war to do it, also it thins the heard at twice the rate, (the extremists) and it keeps them occupied, for their idle hands would be planning something elsewhere.
Going into Syria with even a limited strike would be a gross mistake. It is like throwing a punch in a bar.once it starts it can escalate into a major confrontation in a big hurry. We didn't figure the consequences in Afghanistan or Iraq too well so why would this be any different? The president should have thought before he opened his mouth. Dead is dead whether by poison gas, bullet, or any other means. Not one life, American or Syrian should be lost just so he can save face.
tradio wrote:
If your enemies are killing each other....
My feelings also hopefully when they are done there will only one left.
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