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Dec 8, 2011 11:16:00   #
robert-photos Loc: Chicago
 
EdAnderson wrote:
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Church? What church? Where? Honest, Officer, I didn't even see any church. The post to which I responded asked for ideas on selecting expopsure parameters in manual mode. I did not see a reference to a specific subject or type.

Frankly, I continue to believe that ISO choice, based on the scene/subject, guides the selection of both aperture and shutter speed, again depending upon the priority of the photographer's desire(s) for the final image. With a tripod, for instance, shutter speed is taken out of the camera shake equation. In your dimly lit church scenario, why would you not use a tripod or other camera support?

In the 20 years I worked as a commercial/ industrial photographer, I don't recall ever not changing film/ISO to meet the demands of the subject, if it lead to a better image. Sheets or rolls, they can all be unloaded prior to exposure if need be, again in pursuit of the best quality obtainable under prevailing conditions.
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My bad, I've been following two threads with relatively the same theme and obviously confused them, so sorry to have imparted my confusion on you.

That doesn't change the crux of my statements.

Simplistically, for good, sharp photos there is the obvious.....composition and focus which you control.

That leaves the three other factors being discussed here: shutter speed, aperture and ISO. Which , then is most important for a sharp photograph?

I say that you must start with shutter speed to either freeze the frame, impart motion or create a desired effect.

Next is aperture which gives you a desired depth of field.

Last is ISO which allows you to set the first two. With todays better digital cameras and post process noise reduction software digital noise is a lesser problem.

In answer to your suggestion of using a tripod in church, that is well and good for set shots but not so for run and gun. Also, during ceremonies, it is often hazardous to occupy an aisle with a tripod. I've attempted to use a monopod but that is cumbersome and still did not solve the moving subject problem. Carrying two bodies with a 24-70mm and a 70-200mm adds another dimension of difficulty to shleping a tripod or monopod. The solution, for me, is to set my ISO high enough first so that I have the ability to adjust my aperture and shutter speed as desired on the fly.

Experience as a commercial/industrial photographer where you have time to evaluate the scene, meter the lighting, recompose, etc colors your response just as my experience doing events and having to make instant decisions colors mine. Both of us are right in the given circumstances.
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Robert,
I do appreciate your approach and your comments. I would agree that each of us works with the method that makes the most sense given individual circumstances. But even in your own words, "The solution, for me, is to set my ISO high enough first so that I have the ability to adjust my aperture and shutter speed as desired on the fly." My point exactly. Based on experience, we select a sensitivity to match the circumstances, then work shutter/aperture from there.

I must clarify to you, however, that as a photographer, I shot just about anything and everything. Yes, I did a lot of studio work (mostly 4X5 and 8X10), but also photographed NFL and MLB games, Indy car races, architecture, events, etc. I used every tool I could get my hands on - always to improve my final product. Do you not rely on your camera's meter? Do you not look through the viewfinder and compose/reframe focus/refocus and adjust your exposure based on the circumstances? I don't know what your experience with Commercial/Industrial photographers may have been, but the feeling I get from your comments is not consistent with my experience, having worked in the profession for 20 years.
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Of course, we all rely on the tools that we have at hand or are available to us and fit the situation. I don't usually have time to meter so I use my camera's meter knowing full well that it lies in many situations. Your method works for you and mine works for me AND our methods are probably more similar than different. What we have here is a failure to communicate. :lol:

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