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Sep 13, 2013 17:33:02   #
siamesecatmanuk Loc: Leicestershire UK
 
don't get us started on that subject ! ( smile ) we pay more for the camera in the first place over and above you pay Stateside.

Graham

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Sep 13, 2013 20:09:12   #
BuckeyeBilly Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
From your post, it seems you don't remember Sony's problems with their own branded batteries exploding...I can't say I've ever seen any posts about aftermarket batteries exploding. At most, the complaints seem to be shorter life if anything at all...If the aftermarket batteries were really all that bad, why would all your major camera stores sell them? Methinks you are overreacting...Kinda like the fanboys who say 3rd party lenses are no good, just buy the OEM line...


Scott, from YOUR post, I would say you have never read the warranty on either kind of battery....manufacturer or after-market. Let me say this again....if your camera is still under warranty and you put in an after-market battery and then something unexpected happens to the camera and there's damage that is caused by the after-market battery, YOUR CAMERA MANUFACTURER WILL NOT FIX OR REPLACE THE CAMERA! This post was never meant to judge how long EITHER type of battery may last...it is simply written to warn people of possible consequences ONLY IF you choose to buy the inexpensive battery and then that battery causes damage to your expensive camera. Look, I work for a company who installs parking meters all across the USA, about 250,000 of them at last count, and each meter runs on a battery. Funny thing....if we install a battery that is not made/endorsed by the manufacturer but the battery causes damage, guess what? We have to repair or replace the meter AT OUR EXPENSE. And every camera manufacturer operates with the same philosophy. That's all I'm saying....nothing more. But here's a hint for you: if the Sony batteries you referenced DID cause damage to a camera under warranty, it would be fixed or replaced by Sony. Your lowly after-market battery manufacturer will not do that...they can't, because of how cheap a price you or anyone paid for that after-market battery.

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Sep 13, 2013 20:36:07   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
To each their own....If you feel that way, then it's your prerogative to spend more for the name brand item...What I referenced was from Nikon's own literature when they said they may deny warranty coverage. There was a big stink in the auto industry some years back about the same type of scenario (I used to work in the auto business)... I have copied a section from the Federal Trade Commission's website concerning this as it applies to autos & it applies to other goods as well...

"Do I have to use the dealer for repairs and maintenance to keep my warranty in effect?

No. An independent mechanic, a retail chain shop, or even you yourself can do routine maintenance and repairs on your vehicle. In fact, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, which is enforced by the FTC, makes it illegal for manufacturers or dealers to claim that your warranty is void or to deny coverage under your warranty simply because someone other than the dealer did the work. That said, there may be certain situations where a repair may not be covered. For example, if you or your mechanic replaced a belt improperly and your engine is damaged as a result, your manufacturer or dealer may deny responsibility for fixing the engine under the warranty. However, according to the FTC, the manufacturer or dealer must be able to demonstrate that it was the improper belt replacement — rather than some other defect — that caused the damage to your engine. The warranty would still be in effect for other parts of your car.
Will using 'aftermarket' or recycled parts void my warranty?

No. An 'aftermarket' part is a part made by a company other than the vehicle manufacturer or the original equipment manufacturer. A 'recycled' part is a part that was made for and installed in a new vehicle by the manufacturer or the original equipment manufacturer, and later removed from the vehicle and made available for resale or reuse. Simply using an aftermarket or recycled part does not void your warranty. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act makes it illegal for companies to void your warranty or deny coverage under the warranty simply because you used an aftermarket or recycled part. Still, if it turns out that the aftermarket or recycled part was itself defective or wasn't installed correctly, and it causes damage to another part that is covered under the warranty, the manufacturer or dealer has the right to deny coverage for that part and charge you for any repairs. The FTC says the manufacturer or dealer must show that the aftermarket or recycled part caused the need for repairs before denying warranty coverage."

Thus, with the one year warranty period, as a factor as well, the possibility that an aftermarket battery will cause damage to the camera is miniscule, but as I said, it's your prerogative if it makes you feel better...then do it, I don't feel the same need...







BuckeyeBilly wrote:
Scott, from YOUR post, I would say you have never read the warranty on either kind of battery....manufacturer or after-market. Let me say this again....if your camera is still under warranty and you put in an after-market battery and then something unexpected happens to the camera and there's damage that is caused by the after-market battery, YOUR CAMERA MANUFACTURER WILL NOT FIX OR REPLACE THE CAMERA! This post was never meant to judge how long EITHER type of battery may last...it is simply written to warn people of possible consequences ONLY IF you choose to buy the inexpensive battery and then that battery causes damage to your expensive camera. Look, I work for a company who installs parking meters all across the USA, about 250,000 of them at last count, and each meter runs on a battery. Funny thing....if we install a battery that is not made/endorsed by the manufacturer but the battery causes damage, guess what? We have to repair or replace the meter AT OUR EXPENSE. And every camera manufacturer operates with the same philosophy. That's all I'm saying....nothing more. But here's a hint for you: if the Sony batteries you referenced DID cause damage to a camera under warranty, it would be fixed or replaced by Sony. Your lowly after-market battery manufacturer will not do that...they can't, because of how cheap a price you or anyone paid for that after-market battery.
Scott, from YOUR post, I would say you have never ... (show quote)

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Sep 13, 2013 20:41:46   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Some further information on that act...This particular info was in respect to computer memory...

" What is the Magnuson Moss Act?

The Federal Trade Commission Magnuson-Moss Act protects consumers. This act passed in 1975 states that tie-in sales provisions are NOT allowed in consumer warranties. Manufacturers cannot require consumers to purchase items or services in order to keep their warranty valid.

Essentially, the act states that a warrantor cannot require the consumer of their product (a server) to buy an additional product or service (OEM memory) to be used with the original product in order to maintain the original product warranty.

In other words, you cannot be required to add the server manufacturer's memory to maintain the warranty on the system. Also, the server manufacturer cannot state that the system warranty is void if other "brands" of peripherals are used.

For example:
If you purchased ABC computer but chose to use XYZ brand memory, ABC Company cannot void the warranty or refuse to provide service on your ABC computer.

In addition to the Magnuson-Moss Act any manufacturer that conditions its warranty on purchases of its own equipment may violate the antitrust laws.

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Sep 13, 2013 22:04:38   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
siamesecatmanuk wrote:
A new question which I have just become aware of, the battery life on the Nikon d5100 is said to be a little short ! also the Nikon replacement battery is very expensive and I'm told AND HIS IS MY QUESTION that NON Nikon battery's wont work ? is this true and why ?

Graham


Try a battery grip that will about double the life of your batteries, allows you to use an after market battery (non-chip) along with the Nikon battery (with chip). It will also add a vertical shutter button and better ergonomics at a bargain price-check Amazon. I use the Meike on my D5100 and I am pleased with it.

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Sep 13, 2013 22:07:30   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Some further information on that act...This particular info was in respect to computer memory...

" What is the Magnuson Moss Act?

The Federal Trade Commission Magnuson-Moss Act protects consumers. This act passed in 1975 states that tie-in sales provisions are NOT allowed in consumer warranties. Manufacturers cannot require consumers to purchase items or services in order to keep their warranty valid.

Essentially, the act states that a warrantor cannot require the consumer of their product (a server) to buy an additional product or service (OEM memory) to be used with the original product in order to maintain the original product warranty.

In other words, you cannot be required to add the server manufacturer's memory to maintain the warranty on the system. Also, the server manufacturer cannot state that the system warranty is void if other "brands" of peripherals are used.

For example:
If you purchased ABC computer but chose to use XYZ brand memory, ABC Company cannot void the warranty or refuse to provide service on your ABC computer.

In addition to the Magnuson-Moss Act any manufacturer that conditions its warranty on purchases of its own equipment may violate the antitrust laws.
Some further information on that act...This partic... (show quote)


Also says you don't have to to send in a warranty card, a purchase receipt is proof of purchase for warranty service.

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Sep 14, 2013 10:00:13   #
BuckeyeBilly Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
To each their own....If you feel that way, then it's your prerogative to spend more for the name brand item...What I referenced was from Nikon's own literature when they said they may deny warranty coverage. There was a big stink in the auto industry some years back about the same type of scenario (I used to work in the auto business)... I have copied a section from the Federal Trade Commission's website concerning this as it applies to autos & it applies to other goods as well...

"Do I have to use the dealer for repairs and maintenance to keep my warranty in effect?

No. An independent mechanic, a retail chain shop, or even you yourself can do routine maintenance and repairs on your vehicle. In fact, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, which is enforced by the FTC, makes it illegal for manufacturers or dealers to claim that your warranty is void or to deny coverage under your warranty simply because someone other than the dealer did the work. That said, there may be certain situations where a repair may not be covered. For example, if you or your mechanic replaced a belt improperly and your engine is damaged as a result, your manufacturer or dealer may deny responsibility for fixing the engine under the warranty. However, according to the FTC, the manufacturer or dealer must be able to demonstrate that it was the improper belt replacement — rather than some other defect — that caused the damage to your engine. The warranty would still be in effect for other parts of your car.
Will using 'aftermarket' or recycled parts void my warranty?

No. An 'aftermarket' part is a part made by a company other than the vehicle manufacturer or the original equipment manufacturer. A 'recycled' part is a part that was made for and installed in a new vehicle by the manufacturer or the original equipment manufacturer, and later removed from the vehicle and made available for resale or reuse. Simply using an aftermarket or recycled part does not void your warranty. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act makes it illegal for companies to void your warranty or deny coverage under the warranty simply because you used an aftermarket or recycled part. Still, if it turns out that the aftermarket or recycled part was itself defective or wasn't installed correctly, and it causes damage to another part that is covered under the warranty, the manufacturer or dealer has the right to deny coverage for that part and charge you for any repairs. The FTC says the manufacturer or dealer must show that the aftermarket or recycled part caused the need for repairs before denying warranty coverage."

Thus, with the one year warranty period, as a factor as well, the possibility that an aftermarket battery will cause damage to the camera is miniscule, but as I said, it's your prerogative if it makes you feel better...then do it, I don't feel the same need...
To each their own....If you feel that way, then it... (show quote)


Whatever....but I bet more people here on UHH will pay attention to the advice of what I wrote AS WELL AS MT Shooter than you any day!

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Sep 14, 2013 13:54:07   #
country Loc: back woods
 
MT Shooter wrote:
I have purchased aftermarket batteries for both the Nikon D7000 and the Canon 6D. Neither one would work at all in those bodies. I have since stuck with manufacturer only batteries and have never had a failure or even a hint of a problem.


I just recently got a btbai battery from amazon for my d7000, and it works just fine.. haven't had it long enough to know how long a charge will last, but it does work good... and it was only $13.60...

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Sep 14, 2013 16:16:16   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Sounds like you have some type of chip on your shoulder with this last post... As well as "yelling" (use of caps) in your previous posts and in this one......
BuckeyeBilly wrote:
Whatever....but I bet more people here on UHH will pay attention to the advice of what I wrote AS WELL AS MT Shooter than you any day!

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Sep 14, 2013 19:07:14   #
BuckeyeBilly Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Sounds like you have some type of chip on your shoulder with this last post... As well as "yelling" (use of caps) in your previous posts and in this one......


Scott,
Although this is a response, I'm not going to comment any further on it just so you'll have the satisfaction of the illusion that you won. By the way, where did your user name come from? Screamin'?

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Sep 14, 2013 19:40:29   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
There are no "winners" or "losers" here, just people with differing opinions. I'm not saying that my opinion is the right one, but not that yours is either....They are our opinions & that's what they should be. I didn't try to change anyone's mind, just offered up my "opinion" & experiences on the subject
BuckeyeBilly wrote:
Scott,
Although this is a response, I'm not going to comment any further on it just so you'll have the satisfaction of the illusion that you won. By the way, where did your user name come from? Screamin'?

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Sep 15, 2013 20:46:03   #
brentj38 Loc: arizonia
 
i purchesed batteries that say genuine nikon from china on ebay for 25.00 dollrs work just fine

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Sep 17, 2013 05:30:10   #
Kevin Maldonado
 
brentj38 wrote:
i purchesed batteries that say genuine nikon from china on ebay for 25.00 dollrs work just fine


I bought one battery from other site, it just $21

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Sep 21, 2013 14:27:07   #
HelloMello Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Photog8 wrote:
Allegedly the Nikon batteries have a chip in them so if that is true you need after-market ones with chips. I purchased 2 Clearmax batteries that say for Nikon EN-EL14 and they work without any problem. Not sure of the battery life as I haven't had my D5100 that long yet. The 2 batteries were cheaper than one Nikon battery.



A few reviews on Amazon say the Clearmax don't last as long as oem, others say they don't even carry the ClearMax logo. Let me know your experience as I just ordered a d5100 and will need extra batteries. Personally I have had good success with TechFuel with my canon 300hs, but only found one amazon source (not a good sign) for $25 shipped.

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Sep 22, 2013 09:28:02   #
Crwiwy Loc: Devon UK
 
siamesecatmanuk wrote:
what a dilemma then, so generic ones could or could not have this chip, I would hate to end up with one tat wouldn't work at all, as that's money down the drain, another sleepless night methinks ! Graham


Purchase third party batteries from Amazon - they have a good return system.

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