America Wants ObamaCare: The Kaiser Foundation just did a poll and the results are conclusive: a majority of Americans want ObamaCare. All the talk from the Right about how this is not...

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

The Kaiser Foundation just did a poll and the results are conclusive: a majority of Americans want ObamaCare. All the talk from the Right about how this is not true is nonsense.

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado

Richard94611 wrote:

The Kaiser Foundation just did a poll and the results are conclusive: a majority of Americans want ObamaCare. All the talk from the Right about how this is not true is nonsense.

Hate to burst your silly liberal bubble, but gotta call it like I see it; Bullshit!

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

Jake, you're not bursting anyone's liberal bubble. Call it whatever you want to call it. That isn't going to change the fact that a respected, medical foundation took a poll and found that the majority of Americans want ObamaCare. No amount of crying bullshit will change that.

Jakebrake wrote:

Hate to burst your silly liberal bubble, but gotta call it like I see it; Bullshit!

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

Richard94611 wrote:

The Kaiser Foundation just did a poll and the results are conclusive: a majority of Americans want ObamaCare. All the talk from the Right about how this is not true is nonsense.

The Kaiser Foundation didn't ask me what I wanted.

PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

Richard94611 wrote:

The Kaiser Foundation just did a poll and the results are conclusive: a majority of Americans want ObamaCare. All the talk from the Right about how this is not true is nonsense.

That's not what the Kaiser Foundation poll found. It found that 37% of Americans have a favorable view of Obamacare while 47% have an unfavorable view.

The poll found that the majority of Americans did not want defunding as the mechanism for stopping Obamacare's implementation, which is significantly different than saying they want Obamacare.

If you're going to talk about poll results you should take steps to understand them first.

donrosshill Loc: Delaware & Florida

Richard94611 wrote:

The Kaiser Foundation just did a poll and the results are conclusive: a majority of Americans want ObamaCare. All the talk from the Right about how this is not true is nonsense.

Please show me the link to this pole.

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

donrosshill wrote:

Please show me the link to this pole.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/08/30/gop-is-ignoring-the-will-of-the-people-in-efforts-to-defund-obamacare/

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

PrairieSeasons wrote:

That's not what the Kaiser Foundation poll found. It found that 37% of Americans have a favorable view of Obamacare while 47% have an unfavorable view.

The poll found that the majority of Americans did not want defunding as the mechanism for stopping Obamacare's implementation, which is significantly different than saying they want Obamacare.

If you're going to talk about poll results you should take steps to understand them first.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/08/30/gop-is-ignoring-the-will-of-the-people-in-efforts-to-defund-obamacare/

One of the interesting things about a past pole is that the rightwing folks claim only a minority of Americans want ObamaCare. They claim the rest of Americans don't like it. This is a distortion. When you take into account the percentage of Americans who wanted A STRONGER OBAMACARE instead of what was passed, this swings the percentage of Americans who want ObamaCare in one form or another into the majority.

Anyway, it has been passed, it is going into effect, and we will have it. (Gloat, gloat, gloat)

manderson Loc: Northeast Nebraska

Richard94611 wrote:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/08/30/gop-is-ign... (show quote)

I don't know that I would gloat quite yet. Obama care (I work in the medical field) is going to cost more in the long run than what it is going to fix. The gov't has never fixed a single problem. Problems get swept away to cover mistakes, one problem reduced but another starts up. I also do some teaching and was told by administration that the amount of teaching that I do is now limited because after 10.5 credit hours the college must offer me insurance or extra pay and that isn't an option for the school. This is now creating a huge issue for the school as it afffects approx 200 adjunct instructors. This leaves a large number of classes that won't get taught. And this is the reality of Obamacare. Nancy Pelosi is recorded in a press conference as saying "This law is so large that the only way we will find out what's in it is to pass it." That is not responsible legislation.

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

I think a year from now when the dust settled we will see what we will see and will be able to discuss matters better. I for one have Medicare and really like it. That will just be a part of the new ObamaCare, if I understand things right. It will work out well for me. And I think not having to pay medical costs for the huge amount of people who wait when sick until going to the emergency room become necessary is going to save a lot of money. We will see what we will see.

manderson wrote:

I don't know that I would gloat quite yet. Obama c... (show quote)

Samuraiz Loc: Central Florida

I guess it depends on what poll you choose.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505267_162-57595225/cbs-news-poll-finds-more-americans-than-ever-want-obamacare-repealed/

Since the Kaiser Foundation offers Health Care in California, I would not consider them impartial.

PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

Richard94611 wrote:

I think a year from now when the dust settled we will see what we will see and will be able to discuss matters better. I for one have Medicare and really like it. That will just be a part of the new ObamaCare, if I understand things right. It will work out well for me. And I think not having to pay medical costs for the huge amount of people who wait when sick until going to the emergency room become necessary is going to save a lot of money. We will see what we will see.

Most polls regarding Obamacare include the warning that most Americans do not understand it or what it does. Since congress apparently does understand it and has asked for and been given waivers by the administration, it would seem that those in the know are less impressed than those not in the know.

geclevel Loc: Springville, Utah

Kaiser does not have facilities throughout the US. Kaiser is located in 9 states. Kaiser represents 18% of the states. The great thing about statistics is the numbers can be skewed easily to reach a wanted outcome.

9 states Kaiser is located/50 states in the US = 18% representation
18% of 51%(majority in kaisers poll) = 35% of people want Obamacare. I am simply using Kaiser math.

manderson Loc: Northeast Nebraska

Richard94611 wrote:

I think a year from now when the dust settled we will see what we will see and will be able to discuss matters better. I for one have Medicare and really like it. That will just be a part of the new ObamaCare, if I understand things right. It will work out well for me. And I think not having to pay medical costs for the huge amount of people who wait when sick until going to the emergency room become necessary is going to save a lot of money. We will see what we will see.

In my profession, we are already seeing less reimbursements from gov't sponsored insurance, Medicare and Medicaid. There were changes made in 2013 and more are beginning in 2014. We aren't going to see all the effects for several years. Part of the beauty of Obamacare. If it's drawn out long and slowly, less notice. This moves us closer to socialized medicine with every step. Talk to someone from Canada, let them tell you about scheduling elective surgeries, not cosmetic, but elective. Sure the pharmaceuticals are cheaper along with state sponsored insurance but what are the tax rates? Every gov't benefit comes with a cost.

SpeedyWilson Loc: Upstate South Carolina

Just stay young and don't get sick ... you'll be very happy with government medical care.