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Jul 25, 2013 13:58:08   #
Wall-E Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
retlaw wrote:
1- Wow, I did not expect anyone to make fun of my name on this forum. I do wish that my parents had applied their sense of humor to one of my siblings instead.
2- Yes, Wally, I did a hard reset and it made no change.

Thanks for the input.


Sorry, no offense was meant.
My first name is the reverse of the user name you used here.
I, apparently wrongly, assumed it was just that.

I humbly apologize for any offense I have given.

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Jul 25, 2013 14:11:21   #
GregWCIL Loc: Illinois
 
retlaw wrote:
Guessing that I am late to this topic, I briefly checked this site and found nothing on this. Perhaps I missed it but here goes:

On the D800, apparently Nikon decided to remove the important feature of being able to block taking a picture when the camera is out of focus. These settings can be found in menu items a1 and a2. If set to allow shutter release only when in focus, the camera ignores the setting and always allows the shutter to activate. This results in many out of focus shots. (Yes, I have the latest firmware.)

This problem is discussed on other forums; however, I would appreciate your input on this.

Thanks in advance.
Guessing that I am late to this topic, I briefly c... (show quote)


Mine won't fire if not in focus. For example, if I turn my focus limiter on the 70-200 to not allow focusing closer than 5M, when I try to take a shot closer than that, it won't do it.

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Jul 25, 2013 14:42:57   #
retlaw Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
Just pulling your leg, Wally; I had to do it -- you just left yourself wide open for this one. Every once in a while I get slammed for jumping to conclusions or for making assumptions, and well, that’s MY sense of humor. I do appreciate your apology but, of course, it is unnecessary. Hope YOU can take a joke.

I try to sign up to various sites with Walter and the user name is always taken. Accordingly, I now go with retlaw and it works. In any event, good to meet another Walter; I hope you get a chuckle from this.

BTW, I do greatly appreciate your help and I look forward to future input from you. After all, with a name like yours, you’ve got to be a nice –-- and knowledgeable guy.

(Watch someone come on and remind everyone that this should be limited to the photography question at hand. Oh well, we are all human.)
:)

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Jul 25, 2013 14:53:51   #
retlaw Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
GregWCIL wrote:
Mine won't fire if not in focus. For example, if I turn my focus limiter on the 70-200 to not allow focusing closer than 5M, when I try to take a shot closer than that, it won't do it.


Thanks for trying this out and letting us know about it. To eliminate the lens variable, I tried it with my 70-200 f2.8 and it fires away, focused or not. I guess you are one of the lucky ones.

Please let us know when you got your D800 / serial number with last two digits missing, what version firmware, etc.

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Jul 25, 2013 17:26:17   #
Peter Boyd Loc: Blyth nr. Newcastle U.K.
 
retlaw wrote:
Peter, I assume that your response got mixed into my quote. Do I understand that your D800 does not release the shutter when you are out of focus?? Are you sure? I would be curious as to when you got yours to compare its date of mfg. etc. Any other info would be helpful like was it ever in for service and what version firmware you have.

Thanks


Sorry for the mix up with the reply. I bought mine re-furbished at the Focus on Imaging show in Birmingham in March of this year. Not being new, I don't know the date of manufacture, but I have since downloaded the latest firmware for the camera. When I use it in single servo auto focus mode, which is most of the time I have the menu set for focus priority and the shutter will not activate unless the camera is in focus. This is the first I have heard of the debate on the subject, but can only say that mine works as it should.
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Pete.

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Jul 28, 2013 12:45:41   #
retlaw Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
BillyDuds wrote:
I've experienced the same issue with my d800. I agree completely with you that the camera ignores the setting designed to prohibit out of focus shots.

Like you, I scoured photography forums and learned that this is a common problem with the d800. Indeed it seems to be a flaw with all units, not just yours and mine.

I first encountered this issue when attempting to learn "trap" focus, as described by David Busch on pages 173-175 of his excellent guide to the d800. I e-mailed him two months ago, (May 2013,) and he responded very quickly and courteously:

"Yup. The latest firmware has a bug that causes the D800 to ignore focus priority settings under certain conditions. That renders trap focus and some other behaviors invalid. At the time the book was written, a fix seemed on the way, but it has not appeared as anticipted. I'm still hoping for a fix, but it's been a long time.
David"

I wish I had better news, but maybe, fingers crossed, Nikon will eventually get around to correcting the bug. I hope so, because I'd really like to use that feature.
I've experienced the same issue with my d800. I ag... (show quote)


Thanks Billy Duds for this response. It is a shame, and I wish that I had known about this before purchase -- good chance I would have waited (for what I do not know since now I hear that even the D4 does this; maybe they are making this a standard.)

In any case, this is a great feature; I also hope that Nikon brings this one back. Additionally, it is not good customer treatment for Nikon not even to mention this issue. Apparently, over a year ago Nikon Germany admitted this was a bug and said they referred it to Japan. A recent firmware update, however, did not address it.

To make matters worse for me, yesterday I got the dreaded oil on sensor problem. I was trying the movie feature for a few minutes -- I am guessing that things got a little warm inside and a glob of lube dropped on the sensor. :thumbdown:

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Jul 28, 2013 17:32:42   #
TucsonCoyote Loc: Tucson AZ
 
retlaw wrote:
Thanks Billy Duds for this response. It is a shame, and I wish that I had known about this before purchase -- good chance I would have waited (for what I do not know since now I hear that even the D4 does this; maybe they are making this a standard.)

In any case, this is a great feature; I also hope that Nikon brings this one back. Additionally, it is not good customer treatment for Nikon not even to mention this issue. Apparently, over a year ago Nikon Germany admitted this was a bug and said they referred it to Japan. A recent firmware update, however, did not address it.

To make matters worse for me, yesterday I got the dreaded oil on sensor problem. I was trying the movie feature for a few minutes -- I am guessing that things got a little warm inside and a glob of lube dropped on the sensor. :thumbdown:
Thanks Billy Duds for this response. It is a sham... (show quote)

None of this seems good for Nikon's good name !

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Jul 28, 2013 18:27:19   #
BillyDuds Loc: North Carolina
 
Hi Retlaw,
Interesting to hear what you've found; lots more than I knew. I did do a firmware update yesterday, (the first since I got my camera almost a year ago, I confess) hoping against hope that might solve the bug. It didn't, of course. I'm confused how focus priority on Peter Boyd's d800 is working correctly, but not in ours. Gremlins in some units but not in others?

Sorry to hear about the sensor oil. I haven't had that yet, despite shooting video quite often. Knock wood it'll hold off a while longer.
Bill

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