PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

Predictable response - all opinion and no substantiation.

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

No, not opinion. Just a suggestion that you spend your time doing the work, which you could easily do if you wanted to, not me. I have other things to do.

PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

I was commenting on your original assertion that the welfare system "works a lot better than the right-wingers would have you think. "

Opinion without substantiation.

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

The substantiation was there in detail in the link I provided in one of my very recent posts about this subject. You had only to follow the link and read the article, which gave a great many facts and statistics.

PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

You did, I agree. I'm not going to follow links from a Matt Desmond blog any more than I would expect that you would follow links from a Breitbart blog. They are each so selective on their respective sides that they aren't credible as showing any true picture.

Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY

Great post Pepper. It would be so enjoyable to be able to have political discussions without all the labeling, tagging and absurd generalizations which begin and then permeate so many topics. :thumbup:

Edit: After reading Richard's response to your post I do not believe he has a clue as to what your point was, oh well, good try. :D

jkaye65 Loc: Chico, CA

I often talk (not on UHH) about how pissed I get about people on welfare. But when I say "welfare" I use it as a general term for people on the dole, not necessarily those actually on the program.

I think a lot of people use welfare as a general term for free-loaders. Where money is taken from the taxpayer and given to the "needy" in one program or another.

An example would be in the county where my wife teaches. A great many of the kids come to school in fairly new cars and trucks, sport all the latest smart phones yet they are "poor" enough to qualify for the free breakfast and lunch at school. While the free meal program is not "welfare", it is just the same from the view of the working man.

My work quite often takes me into the homes of those on "section 8" housing assistance. Government funds pay for their housing........another form of "welfare". Well over half of these homes have bigger flat screen TVs than I have. And the people have cartons of expensive cigarettes and the newest Playstation consoles.

It is not fair that I have to work my ass off (and pay taxes) to get these things while these people can sit around all day and have the same stuff.

These are just a small example of what my wife and I see.......with our own eyes. Not coming from any right or left wing idiot with an agenda.

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

I have to admit that I have been p****d off by seeing fancy home theaters in the homes of people on the dole. I don't begrudge a normal color TV -- they are not that expensive these days ($250, just bought one myself). But the $2,000 TV sets on the home of folks on welfare also p++s me off, too.