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Apr 29, 2013 11:42:13   #
luloral
 
I need advice from those more experienced than I. I have agreed to shoot a small wedding in Michigan. It will be in September on the beach of Lake Michigan. I just found out will take place at 3 pm and the ceremony being right on the water will pose a difficult situation for me. I will be shooting right into a west afternoon 3 pm autumn sun. How will I keep from losing detail in the ceremony and not blow the background out. I can't imagine in my head how to do this successfully shooting this into the sun.

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Apr 29, 2013 11:46:24   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
I'd suggest that circular polarizing filters may be helpful.

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Apr 29, 2013 11:56:00   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
luloral wrote:
I need advice from those more experienced than I. I have agreed to shoot a small wedding in Michigan. It will be in September on the beach of Lake Michigan. I just found out will take place at 3 pm and the ceremony being right on the water will pose a difficult situation for me. I will be shooting right into a west afternoon 3 pm autumn sun. How will I keep from losing detail in the ceremony and not blow the background out. I can't imagine in my head how to do this successfully shooting this into the sun.
I need advice from those more experienced than I. ... (show quote)


You need to meter off the bright background and use a fill flash for the foreground. I would also visit the wedding location at the same time of day before the wedding and practice, then hope for an overcast day.

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Apr 29, 2013 11:58:32   #
luloral
 
I already planned to do that since I am staying there in a motel for 2 days. OMG I hope I can pull this off.

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Apr 29, 2013 11:58:38   #
mtnredhed Loc: The part of NorCal that doesn't move
 
You might also consider a beefy off camera strobe to fill in

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Apr 29, 2013 12:42:07   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
Incident meter 100% the best money you will ever spend

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/guide-to-using-a-hand-held-light-meter-4748

In this situation I would only rely on an incident reading for 100% accuracy

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Apr 29, 2013 13:15:14   #
luloral
 
Thank you all for the advice. I surely appreciate the ideas.

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Apr 29, 2013 13:16:54   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
Thanks for the link, JR1. Good article.

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Apr 29, 2013 13:25:13   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
I KNOW this is not what you're asking, but don't hesitate to try for some good silhouette shots since you'll have the lighting for it.

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Apr 29, 2013 14:15:49   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
OddJobber wrote:
I KNOW this is not what you're asking, but don't hesitate to try for some good silhouette shots since you'll have the lighting for it.


Bummer, I never though of that, of course.

http://junebugweddings.com/blogs/photobug/archive/2010/06/30/phenomenal-photography-wedding-silhouettes.aspx


It always pays to check out other photographers wedding sites even mine for a laugh :lol: :lol:

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Apr 29, 2013 22:55:36   #
robert-photos Loc: Chicago
 
luloral wrote:
I need advice from those more experienced than I. I have agreed to shoot a small wedding in Michigan. It will be in September on the beach of Lake Michigan. I just found out will take place at 3 pm and the ceremony being right on the water will pose a difficult situation for me. I will be shooting right into a west afternoon 3 pm autumn sun. How will I keep from losing detail in the ceremony and not blow the background out. I can't imagine in my head how to do this successfully shooting this into the sun.
I need advice from those more experienced than I. ... (show quote)


A thought occured to me that the B&G will be facing west or toward the lake and perhaps you'll be shooting east to get your best shots.

Learn how to use your flash out of doors (under expose the ambient light and use your flash to light the B&G). You may need to use an ND filter if you want to shoot with a wide open aperture.

For a tutorials and video see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEnAhkL0i38

http://www.adorama.com/alc/0008299/article/Picture-taking-techniques---Outdoor-portraits-Part-I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y01cwu4RouI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH0kv-I0IUs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHUt8BEAgmg

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Apr 29, 2013 23:10:02   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
luloral wrote:
I need advice from those more experienced than I. I have agreed to shoot a small wedding in Michigan. It will be in September on the beach of Lake Michigan. I just found out will take place at 3 pm and the ceremony being right on the water will pose a difficult situation for me. I will be shooting right into a west afternoon 3 pm autumn sun. How will I keep from losing detail in the ceremony and not blow the background out. I can't imagine in my head how to do this successfully shooting this into the sun.
I need advice from those more experienced than I. ... (show quote)


How about asking them to stand so that you are shooting at 90 degrees to the sun instead of straight into it?

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Apr 29, 2013 23:53:31   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Pepper wrote:
I'd suggest that circular polarizing filters may be helpful.

If you are shooting into the sun, polarization will not be very effective. You need to have the sun at 90° to your line of sight for optimal polarization. You might try +2 stops compensation, but your background will be blown out. You might also try a graduated ND filter. If you can get the scene rotated 90°, your CPL will work.

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Apr 29, 2013 23:59:33   #
luloral
 
lighthouse wrote:
How about asking them to stand so that you are shooting at 90 degrees to the sun instead of straight into it?


I thought of that. If I can work that out I sure will.

The B&G will be facing west during the ceremony with the water and the sun at the Ministers back.

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Apr 30, 2013 00:09:26   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
In Wisconsin at 1500 on 09/15/2013, the sun will be ~41° above the horizon at a bearing of ~219° True. You can actually plot this on a local map to see which way you'll be facing with respect to the sun and whether the sun will be above the wedding party's heads or behind them. Reference:

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.php#Notes

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