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Apr 14, 2013 01:45:58   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
ole sarg wrote:
Most on this site are nice people. They are folks who love their families, like other people (even this nasty old Sgt)and have not and would not hurt anyone.

In fact the above describes most of the troopers in my various units.

It is hard to pull the trigger. It is the most difficult thing to train a soldier to do.

So if you get a gun and think that you will just simply pull the weapon out of its holster and shoot someone, I can almost assure you that you will not!

On the other hand, you may get real angry and pull the gun out and shoot and go to prison for a long long time!

So before you arm yourself really be sure you know yourself.

Guns are dangerous even in the hands of those who have owned them for a life time.

I always ask the question of those who espouse the bravado in these discussions: Have you ever shot at someone or been shot at?
Most on this site are nice people. They are folks ... (show quote)

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Will answer them in reverse order

Yes, I was shot at and shot at people, and in the previous stated also called in air, mortor, and artillery ordenance upon the enemy. Which were real live people. All of which was very effective, becasue for the most part, they stopped shooting at us.

Agreed owning a gun is dangerous business, and longevity of ownership is not really involved with safety. Safety comes from the individual responsibility.

I totally agree you must really know yourself when it comes to the difference from owning and using a gun especially on a person. You have to be responsible for your actions.

The next two contradict each. On one hand you have the person too timid to do anything, the next the person is quick tempered and pulls a gun at the drop of a hat. How about me - I'm neither of these.

As for hard to pull the trigger, if its me or my family its not hard at all. If its so hard why do many police shoot at a perp. When they come to a screeaching halt in the squad car they hop out and start shooting. I don't see any hesitation on their part. Over the years I have read many a story in the paper where the police have thought a person had a gun and started shooting only to find out it was a wallet, or a cell phone or a pen in their hard. But they got off because they feared for their life.

A gun is a responsibility. But to pass laws because of felons upon lawabiding people is wrong.

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"If you are for gun control, then you are not against guns, because the guns will be needed to disarm people. So it’s not that you are anti-gun.

You’ll need the police’s guns to take away other people’s guns. So you’re very Pro-gun, you just believe that only government (which is, of course, so reliable, honest, moral and virtuous…) should be allowed to have guns.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GUN CONTROL. There is only centralizing ownership in the hands of a small, political elite and their minions." – Stefan Molyneux

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Apr 14, 2013 02:06:30   #
Photogdog Loc: New Kensington, PA
 
Harvey wrote:
There is only one sound like a shell being chambered into a shotgun - I've used it once when we knew where the crook was but did not want to go where he was - I yelled for him to come out as we were coming in and jacked that pump - the next sound was - ":I'm coming out don't shoot"
the one time is used deadly force a cop ask me why I didn't draw my gun sooner - the old cop told him - "Quick draw went out with cowboys & Indians" don't go for a hide-out when you are covered - wait for your opening.
Am I paranoid? No just prepared to protect myself and other innocents 'till the police can get there - .
There is only one sound like a shell being chamber... (show quote)


Boy, you got that right!

When I was working in Texas a few years back, I had a young woman working for me who had grown up in Texas and Colorado.

She was dating a guy at one point who made a surprise visit to her home in the middle of the night. Sherry heard a noise, grabbed a 12 gauge pump and racked the slide. The boyfriend yells "Don't shoot! It's just me!".

There really isn't anything that quite matches the sound of a round of double 00 buck being chambered into a 12 gauge.

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Apr 14, 2013 02:06:45   #
Dback4430 Loc: Lockport Il
 
I agree with sarge and have experienced that. A range is one thing . Looking at a live target down the barrel of the weapon i lived with for 8 years , countless rounds down range etc . When the target looks back , it causes pause .That will get you Killed . I pray I never see that again . A shotgun will do wonders for home use and unless you are using slugs , the neighbors are reasonably safe , the bad guys are gone .
I for one dont desire a hand gun . I do desire the choice to be mine however .

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Apr 14, 2013 05:04:40   #
stryvya Loc: Camborne, Cornwall
 
All of the above Postings makes me Happy to live in the UK!!!!

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Apr 14, 2013 09:50:44   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
Photogdog wrote:
As I have stated before, signing more paper isn't the answer. ENFORCE the laws that are already on the books.

When a mugger gets caught after the crime and the gun possesion gets plea bargained down to nothing, there's a problem with the system.

Passing another law that also won't get enforced isn't the answer.

Putting bad guys away for a few years and then letting them out for "good behavior", prison over crowding, etc so they can pick up their old ways is NOT the way to address the problem.

ENFORCE the laws that are on the books and lock these people up for life or at least untill they're too old to kill somebody else.

If more prisons need to be built, so be it. How much do the local, state and federal governments spend on gun control studies and lobbying to disarm the law abiding population when they could be building more cages to lock up these animals?

Better yet, when one of these psychos goes off, stick the needle in the arm and stop taking money out of the pockets of law abiding citizens so the system can keep these maniacs on death row for decades while they file one appeal after another, work out in gyms that are better equiped than most people can afford and become jailhouse lawers with access to libraries that rival the local universities.

Ted Bundy was on death row for for 12 years before the state of Florida finally threw the switch. That's BULLSHIT!!!! This guy was a sociopath that should never had been allowed to to the light of day.

The day he was fried, liberal morons were protesting in front of the prison that capital punishment was "cruel & inhumane".

Gosh, I'm sorry that the vast majority of violent crime is commited by repeat offenders that get released early so they can be paroled to take up business as usual.
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Photodog:
Your post makes sense, and on this board therein lies it's fault.
I feel that there is no question that if the laws were enforced we would have less gun crime.
The fact remains however, that the liberals and the liberal government care about only one thing and that is the disarming of the American public. Any reason or example they use is just smoke and mirrors, they could care less who is hurt or killed as long as their goal of totally disarming the public is accomplished.
There is nothing, nothing they won't do to accomplish this goal.

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Apr 14, 2013 10:02:45   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
stryvya wrote:
All of the above Postings makes me Happy to live in the UK!!!!



Glad you are happy where you are. Of course there are still crimes becasue of guns in the UK even though they are illegal. So be happy in your Alice in Wonderland life style or is it ostrich with your head in the sand. Rememeber in that position you still have your back end in the exposed air and un-defended. If that is your pereferred position to the criminal - so be it.

Oh why is it your Bobbies have begun to carry guns? Remember it is for their defense not your's!

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Apr 14, 2013 12:41:16   #
Photogdog Loc: New Kensington, PA
 
stryvya wrote:
All of the above Postings makes me Happy to live in the UK!!!!


Yeah, I guess that's why the British government finally allowed the "Bobbies" to carry guns instead of just night sticks. It might have something to do with the Jamaican drug posses running around the countryside with fully automatic submachine guns.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaican_Posse

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