PhotoNoob Loc: Innisfail, Canada

Shooting Advice
Some words to the wise. Shooting Advice from various Concealed Carry Instructors. If you own a gun, you will appreciate this. If not, you should get one and learn how to use it:

A: Guns have only two enemies: rust and politicians.

B: Its always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

C: Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.

D: Never let someone or something that threatens you get inside arms length.

E: Never say "I've got a gun." If you need to use deadly force, the first sound they hear should be the safety clicking off. (I prefer the sound of a slug being chambered when you cock a shotgun)

F: The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes, the response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second.

G: The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win - cheat if necessary.

H: Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets . . . You may get killed with your own gun, but he'll have to beat you to death with it, cause it'll be empty.
If you're in a gun fight:
1. If you're not shooting, you should be loading.
2. If you're not loading, you should be moving,
3. If you're not moving', you're dead.

J: In a life and death situation, do something . . . It may be wrong, but do something!

K: If you carry a gun, people call you paranoid. Nonsense! If you have a gun, what do you have to be paranoid about? (I call it being prepared)

L: You can say 'stop' or 'alto' or any other word, but a large bore muzzle pointed at someone's head is pretty much a universal language. AMEN!

M: You cannot save the planet, but you may be able to save yourself and your family.

If you believe in the 2nd Amendment, please forward.

Iwantitall Loc: Chicago (south side)

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it! : )
Thanks for maybe helping some to better understand.
In Chicago, the Mayor ( term used loosely ) wants guns outlawed
but...... Keeps HIMSELF surrounded with armed guards. Hmmmmm.

Danilo Loc: Las Vegas

Although I've grown weary of "bumper-sticker" logic, I DO believe strongly in the 2nd Amendment. Anyone wishing to own firearms definitely should. One more "bumper-sticker":
God made men, Sam Colt made them equal.

ole sarg Loc: south florida

To be effective you have to fire the first shot. Ever shot anyone?

ole sarg Loc: south florida

Most on this site are nice people. They are folks who love their families, like other people (even this nasty old Sgt)and have not and would not hurt anyone.

In fact the above describes most of the troopers in my various units.

It is hard to pull the trigger. It is the most difficult thing to train a soldier to do.

So if you get a gun and think that you will just simply pull the weapon out of its holster and shoot someone, I can almost assure you that you will not!

On the other hand, you may get real angry and pull the gun out and shoot and go to prison for a long long time!

So before you arm yourself really be sure you know yourself.

Guns are dangerous even in the hands of those who have owned them for a life time.

I always ask the question of those who espouse the bravado in these discussions: Have you ever shot at someone or been shot at?

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

No but I have been shot. I don't own a gun but wish I did, not that I would want to use it, I don't want to shoot anyone. God help me pull the trigger! I'll do the aiming.

Photogdog Loc: New Kensington, PA

You know, it's interesting. I use to work for a big corporation that had me traveling to Chicago on a regular basis. Here's a city with some of the most Draconian gun laws in the country. Yet, every night in my hotel room while watching the news I heard one report after another about citizens killed or injured from gun fire.

If these laws are so effective, where are the bad guys getting their guns?

leither Loc: Sunny Leith

I watched a CNN News programme last night (April 12) and they sent reporters to 4 gun shows/conventions, whatever you call them, in North/South Carolina and Georgia. They were able to buy 4 semi automatic hand guns and semi automatic rifle without even giving their names let alone showing any I.D that they lived in the State in which the guns were being sold, which is a legal requirement apparently. They even timed the sales and the quickest was about 47 seconds.
Guns are a way of life in the US but I think it can be just a wee bit too easy to obtain them.

Photogdog Loc: New Kensington, PA

As I have stated before, signing more paper isn't the answer. ENFORCE the laws that are already on the books.

When a mugger gets caught after the crime and the gun possesion gets plea bargained down to nothing, there's a problem with the system.

Passing another law that also won't get enforced isn't the answer.

Putting bad guys away for a few years and then letting them out for "good behavior", prison over crowding, etc so they can pick up their old ways is NOT the way to address the problem.

ENFORCE the laws that are on the books and lock these people up for life or at least untill they're too old to kill somebody else.

If more prisons need to be built, so be it. How much do the local, state and federal governments spend on gun control studies and lobbying to disarm the law abiding population when they could be building more cages to lock up these animals?

Better yet, when one of these psychos goes off, stick the needle in the arm and stop taking money out of the pockets of law abiding citizens so the system can keep these maniacs on death row for decades while they file one appeal after another, work out in gyms that are better equiped than most people can afford and become jailhouse lawers with access to libraries that rival the local universities.

Ted Bundy was on death row for for 12 years before the state of Florida finally threw the switch. That's BULLSHIT!!!! This guy was a sociopath that should never had been allowed to to the light of day.

The day he was fried, liberal morons were protesting in front of the prison that capital punishment was "cruel & inhumane".

Gosh, I'm sorry that the vast majority of violent crime is commited by repeat offenders that get released early so they can be paroled to take up business as usual.

pbearperry Loc: Massachusetts

Were the sales with no questions asked between buyers and dealers or private sales between 2 people in the parking lot?

RichieC Loc: Adirondacks

So someone is threatening you, to an extent where if you had a gun you would feel the need to use it. Explain what you suggest someone do. Take out a pen? Run? Beg? Cry? Wait the 30 minutes or 2 hours for the police to arrive, supposing someone has even called?

The world is a dangerous place, filled with dangerous people, no laws are going to change that.

Been a hunter all my life, and I find no pleasure in killing anything, but don't let that fact confuse you to just how good a shot I am. I take it as a responsibility to make sure it is a clean shot, or I won't take it. I use my brain. But that is me. I suggest no one test me. I won't like it, but I will pull the trigger at the appropriate time.

The one thing you forget is that most criminals, by their very nature, are cowards. They bet on having the upper hand, when confronted by someone who is their equal, (which is the real power behind guns, it makes a 90lb woman an equal to a 300 pound line backer), they most often will run away. This is the statistic that most often is ignored as no shots were fired.

So all I want is the ability to defend against someone who is threatening me or mine, or even you and yours. It was my right when I was born given to me by all of those who have fought and some who died to give us that right. We all stand on their shoulders. I challenge you to find where any one of them went off to defend our right to beg for mercy.

PhotoNoob Loc: Innisfail, Canada

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leither Loc: Sunny Leith

The Handgun sales were 'over the counter' - The rifle sale, although first seen in the hall was conducted in the car park as the case for the gun was too heavy for the seller to carry about. He had a 'For Sale' sign attached to the barrel.

Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az

BS - you don't need to be the first to fire, just the first to be accurate. In Martial Arts they have observed a very peculiar fact - that the first person struck most of the time loses a fight. This is not an absolute though. There are a small percentage of people who react differently than giving up on the first encounter. For one - that is me.

Most Martial Arts systems state a similar idea, that the first person that takes actions can't be stopped from connecting the punch. But the Martial Art that I studied show this to be NOT TRUE. There are things that you can do to avoid being connected with that initial punch. Suprised or not.

With guns there are things that you can do too to make the person miss with the first shot. Besides for example even with trained police in most situations many shots are fired before anyone gets hit. One of them had to be the first shot which wasn't effective.

The only effective way to fire the first shot is if you are sniping, and there is only one shot. But people are out to do crime, not snipe, and for the most part inexperienced, but brave because of hiding behind a gun and thinking they have the upper hand, otherwise they wouldn't be dong it. No one gets into a willing fight thinking they are going to lose. That is why there is no such thing as a fair fight.

As for shooting someone, I was in Nam and also there during the Tet offensive of 68. Not only shot but called in artillery, mortors, air ordinance.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

There is only one sound like a shell being chambered into a shotgun - I've used it once when we knew where the crook was but did not want to go where he was - I yelled for him to come out as we were coming in and jacked that pump - the next sound was - ":I'm coming out don't shoot"
the one time is used deadly force a cop ask me why I didn't draw my gun sooner - the old cop told him - "Quick draw went out with cowboys & Indians" don't go for a hide-out when you are covered - wait for your opening.
Am I paranoid? No just prepared to protect myself and other innocents 'till the police can get there - .