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Apr 8, 2013 10:13:38   #
DennisK Loc: Pickle City,Illinois
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I think that war is coming, with whom it is hard to say... 2 months ago the concern was the escalation of tensions between China and Japan and many were predicting war... For the last 2 years it has been the Iran nukes and when would Israel strike... Now we have the Koreas... Something is going to give somewhere and we will be sucked into the middle of it... It is a shame that man has this overwhelming need to kill his fellow man simply to fulfill the ambitions of a few....


Armageddon?

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Apr 8, 2013 10:14:44   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
If we are really digging deeply for an answer to this, imposing economic sanctions on them as we have done isn't exactly pleasing them. We have to admit that.

Picdude wrote:
I'm curious too. Just how are we antagonizing them??

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Apr 8, 2013 10:15:27   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
no, but a really tough time for a lot of people -- the ones who don't die right away.

DennisK wrote:
Armageddon?

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Apr 8, 2013 10:16:08   #
DennisK Loc: Pickle City,Illinois
 
berchman wrote:
I know that this is the irresponsible reptilian brain speaking, but I would like to see us carpet bomb North Korea with H bombs so I never have to read about that god-forsaken country again.


I know how you feel.Unfortunately nuclear war would not be good for anyone.Besides,10 or so B-2 bombers with conventional munitions should do the trick.

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Apr 8, 2013 10:25:06   #
DennisK Loc: Pickle City,Illinois
 
Richard94611 wrote:
no, but a really tough time for a lot of people -- the ones who don't die right away.


No kidding.Just the thought of "nuclear winter" scares the heck out of me.

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Apr 8, 2013 10:43:48   #
Picdude Loc: Ohio
 
Richard94611 wrote:
If we are really digging deeply for an answer to this, imposing economic sanctions on them as we have done isn't exactly pleasing them. We have to admit that.


When the school-yard bully (or bully wanna-be) starts stomping around the playground, you have the options of either cowering in a corner, ignoring the bully and hope he picks on someone else, or standing up to him.

Kim Jong-un has decided to make the United States the enemy of North Korea, not because of anything we have done to North Korea, but because he knows we will help South Korea stand in the way of his invasion (and make no mistake, if we were to pull forces completely out of South Korea the invasion would start within 72 hours of their departure). We have fired no shots nor thrown any punches. We have simply let the bully know we will not tolerate his behavior on the playground.

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Apr 8, 2013 10:46:04   #
Ron K. Loc: Upstate NY.
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Let me ask this collective's opinion. Do you expect that we are going to have a war with North Korea ?


No. Obama will do what he's always done with recalcitrant nations. He'll offer them a few hundred million dollars of our tax money to behave themselves. Then he'll go looking for another nation to bribe with our tax dollars. We are a bottomless pit of tax dollars, ya know.

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Apr 8, 2013 11:12:16   #
jcs Loc: USA
 
wilpharm wrote:
what the hell are we doing to antagonize N Korea ..??


we prevent the Socialist Dictators from taking over South Korea ?

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Apr 8, 2013 11:27:27   #
Picdude Loc: Ohio
 
jcs wrote:
we prevent the Socialist Dictators from taking over South Korea ?


Yep! :thumbup:

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Apr 8, 2013 11:33:34   #
2bob Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Ted, I think he was referring to N. Korea as the people who "don't get it." But I am not sure.


Indeed I was referring to North Korea as being those that 'don't get it'. Thank you for your interpretation Richard.

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Apr 8, 2013 11:47:25   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
2bob wrote:
Indeed I was referring to North Korea as being those that 'don't get it'. Thank you for your interpretation Richard.


The problem is, from the post we really weren't sure!!

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Apr 8, 2013 11:52:07   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
I agree with you Ted. Patcam is probably a far-leftists who doesn't know history or what he is talking about. I fully support his right to express his opinion regardless of how it may be.

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Apr 8, 2013 12:09:23   #
2bob Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Richard94611 wrote:
If we are really digging deeply for an answer to this, imposing economic sanctions on them as we have done isn't exactly pleasing them. We have to admit that.


As an Australian, rather than being an American (no disrespect intended), I am an outsider. As a consequence my viewpoint is going to be different. I am well aware of the controversial nature of what I am proposing which is simply this; If I recognise when people don't like me, I take a look at myself. My point is that if nations did the same, we might well get a better result. It's called taking responsibility. Who then is going to suffer the most when sanctions are applied (ie; Nth Korea). The innocent population. Just as in war, it is they/we (the majority) that pay the price, not the minority in 'power'. Applying sanctions causes hardship to the majority, and supports the miniscule minority, the very people it's supposed to affect. There are 7 billion of us. Pawns for the minority of psycopaths that 'lead' us. When are we going to wake up?

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Apr 8, 2013 12:41:39   #
Jim_In_Plymouth Loc: Plymouth MN
 
"I know that this is the irresponsible reptilian brain speaking" At least you recognize it but many don't.

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Apr 8, 2013 13:02:50   #
2bob Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Jim_In_Plymouth wrote:
"I know that this is the irresponsible reptilian brain speaking" At least you recognize it but many don't.


Thanks Jim! You have demonstrated that I/we are not alone in our thinking. Sadly as a majority we have lost the will to speak our minds publicly. To our peril. Apathy resulting from conditioning/brainwashing. We are an intelligent species, yet to an alien visitor we would be seen for what we are. Lemmings!

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