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Apr 2, 2013 23:58:10   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
David Dennis wrote:
You want the VR II if you are using, or planning to move to, a camera with a FX (full frame) sensor. The VR I does not properly cover the full frame, so there are nasty vignetting problems.


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I have no coverage problems with the older 70-200 VR1 lens on the Nikon D700 or D800. I'm not sure what you're talking about. It's a full-frame coverage lens.

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Apr 3, 2013 11:41:42   #
David Dennis Loc: West Palm Beach, Florida
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
I have no coverage problems with the older 70-200 VR1 lens on the Nikon D700 or D800. I'm not sure what you're talking about. It's a full-frame coverage lens.


here's my source:
http://www.bythom.com/nikkor-70-200-VR-II-lens.htm

DPReview's review of the two lenses said the same thing.


David

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Apr 3, 2013 12:16:42   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
David Dennis wrote:
here's my source:
http://www.bythom.com/nikkor-70-200-VR-II-lens.htm

DPReview's review of the two lenses said the same thing.


David


Dang, I just looked through it against a white background and the old one absolutely DOES vignette!
I never shoot against white background so it really doesn't affect the way I shoot, but thanks for posting. Interesting stuff!

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Apr 3, 2013 16:18:07   #
David Dennis Loc: West Palm Beach, Florida
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Dang, I just looked through it against a white background and the old one absolutely DOES vignette!
I never shoot against white background so it really doesn't affect the way I shoot, but thanks for posting. Interesting stuff!


Thom points out that a lot of people who shoot with these lenses have subjects consistently in the center and not the corners, and so the vignetting is not as important as you might think.

Hope I haven't spoiled your enjoyment of your lens. The new one doesn't have as much of a telephoto reach at close distances, so you might still prefer it.

I have the new one and I'm really happy with it, but it certainly was expensive.

D

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Apr 3, 2013 16:42:21   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
David Dennis wrote:
Thom points out that a lot of people who shoot with these lenses have subjects consistently in the center and not the corners, and so the vignetting is not as important as you might think.

Hope I haven't spoiled your enjoyment of your lens. The new one doesn't have as much of a telephoto reach at close distances, so you might still prefer it.

I have the new one and I'm really happy with it, but it certainly was expensive.

D


Nahh, I actually like darkening the edges a bit anyway.
But now I will be looking at them a bit closer.
I did notice some fairly big sensor dust against the white background when it was stopped down.
Debating whether to clean it.
I'm usually close to wide open, so I rarely see it.
I need to rent another for another shooter for an event next week. Think I'll let him use the older one.
Again, very interesting articles. Thanks again.

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Apr 3, 2013 18:08:27   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Nahh, I actually like darkening the edges a bit anyway.
But now I will be looking at them a bit closer.
I did notice some fairly big sensor dust against the white background when it was stopped down.
Debating whether to clean it.
I'm usually close to wide open, so I rarely see it.
I need to rent another for another shooter for an event next week. Think I'll let him use the older one.
Again, very interesting articles. Thanks again.


Sensor dust would be equally visible no matter what the aperture setting. It.s dust in or on the lens. Cheers....

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Apr 3, 2013 18:19:17   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
winterrose wrote:
Sensor dust would be equally visible no matter what the aperture setting. It.s dust in or on the lens. Cheers....


Actually no. Sensor dust gets more visible when stopped down. The dust isn't actually on the sensor, it's on the filters in front of the sensor. Stopping down makes the light source (the aperture hole) smaller, just as using direct flash would do vs that of a softbox. It makes the shadows more distinct. I'll shoot an example tomorrow and post it for you with a couple different lenses. The spots will be in exactly the same place with both lenses.

It will also show the vignetting with the older 70-200 that I never saw before.

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Apr 3, 2013 19:02:18   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Actually no. Sensor dust gets more visible when stopped down. The dust isn't actually on the sensor, it's on the filters in front of the sensor. Stopping down makes the light source (the aperture hole) smaller, just as using direct flash would do vs that of a softbox. It makes the shadows more distinct. I'll shoot an example tomorrow and post it for you with a couple different lenses. The spots will be in exactly the same place with both lenses.

It will also show the vignetting with the older 70-200 that I never saw before.
Actually no. Sensor dust gets more visible when st... (show quote)


All right, all right, the dirt is on the the filter in front of the sensor. It's just that you come across as such a perfectionist that I am surprised that both you tolerate the image degradation that a dirty sensor would cause and that you actually haven't noticed it before. I very regularly carefully inspect a test shot against a white board particularly to identify such faults. Equipment maintenance is very important you know. Look after your stuff. Regards, Rob.

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Apr 3, 2013 19:29:25   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
winterrose wrote:
All right, all right, the dirt is on the the filter in front of the sensor. It's just that you come across as such a perfectionist that I am surprised that both you tolerate the image degradation that a dirty sensor would cause and that you actually haven't noticed it beforie. I very regularly carefully inspect a test shot against a white board particularly to identify such faults. Equipment maintenance is very important you know. Look after your stuff. Regards, Rob.

Perfectionist....hardly! LOL! I rarely use a tripod, use jpegs a lot and obviously don't check equipment as often as I should. I am still going to shoot a test tomorrow just to see what the sensor is like at this point. Off to a concert!

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Apr 3, 2013 19:37:40   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Perfectionist....hardly! LOL! I rarely use a tripod, use jpegs a lot and obviously don't check equipment as often as I should. I am still going to shoot a test tomorrow just to see what the sensor is like at this point. Off to a concert!


Good on you! Just stirring....Enjoy the concert and post some pics if you please. Cheers, Rob.

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Apr 5, 2013 09:11:38   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Dust reference photos below are from the same area on the left side of the image. Two different lenses, the 24-70 and the 70-200. 2.8 & 22. Can't see the dust at f/2.8 but at f/22 it is visible and in the same exact place with both lenses. That pretty much squashes the dust in the lens idea. Dust in the lens very, very rarely shows up on the image. The vignetting of the older 70-200 version is not really a problem for me in real shooting situations. I should get my hands on a newer version in a few days.



70-200 @ 2.8
70-200 @ 2.8...

70-200 @ 22
70-200 @ 22...

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