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Sep 3, 2015 17:19:27   #
donnahde wrote:
Thanks for jumping in, Bill. No, I want a final image that's 12 high by 24 wide (to wrap around a 12x12 book). The group picture should be 12x12 with the group in the middle of the black top and bottom.

I'm on my way out to shoot football at a school in MD for my "day" job. I won't be back til 8:30ish eastern. I'll check back then to see if anyone else has posted any ideas.

Thanks again for being out there! (-:



I think your proposed image is undersized. With 24 being the combined width, you will be short by the width of the spine.

If I am misunderstanding I offer my humblest of apologies.
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Aug 24, 2015 10:55:52   #
several comments - Whether or not this is a composite may be unimportant, but the download makes me think that it is.

Although there is green, it is not a major player in the image.

I was confused about why this is in the wedding section.
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Aug 21, 2015 10:00:59   #
FOTOSTAN wrote:
..... is this the end of a vocation called photography? How much must one spend time in trying to "remove" the mob of camera shooters pushing their way into the shoot making it quite difficult to concentrate on a paid for obligation?


Les look at your rhetorical question a bit differently. No matter what level of skill a professional possesses, he is a surrogate for someone who is paying him. Why should he have any expectations that he is more important than those of the "mob". This may be appropriate for a wedding where he is hired by someone who is paying for an event. As a general statement, however, why should a professional have any preference not offered by anything but his own sense of arrogance and entitlement.
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Jul 10, 2015 00:29:08   #
SteveR wrote:
A good example of a nice throwaway shot. You've got a utility box dead on, a parking lot to the right with a white car clearly visible, with more cars parked off to the left. The dead tree across the stream really does not add anything in this case. The stream, the banks, the trees along the banks and in the distance, as well as the hint of color with the crepe myrtle are what is attractive in the photo. There is just too much junk in it. Find a stream that is far from the maddening crowd in which the surroundings add rather than subtract from your photo and you'll have a much better subject.
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I am not going to agree that this is a throwaway shot. This is one of those images that I capture on vacation when I don't have time to work the scene. If I were considering a lot of work in post, the cost of printing on fine art paper, museum glass, a frame and a mat - it would be one of those times when the finger wouldn't touch the shutter release. Its value rests with the purpose.

Because this was put up to garner opinions, I will add a few more thoughts. In addition to the cars parked off to the left, there are 3 or 4 to the right and another 3 or 4 on a road in the background. The main part of the picture as I see it is the stream and the well. I believe the image would be greatly strengthened if a significant amount of the foreground were removed and there was a much shorter run to the well. Whether one were to remove the tree on the left or retain it is a matter of opinion. The problem is that there is just too much to the left of the well and too much in front of it. Much of the problem with the cars on the right can be improved with judicious cropping.

My solution to the whole matter is really simple. Use a lens of proper length ( perhaps something that approximates normal) and get closer. From the proper distance and with considered angulations of the lens, most of the excessive areas to the left, right and vertical can be eliminated. It is a matter of choosing the most desirable composition and setting the crop in advance by lens choice and foot placement.

Many of my thoughts are in agreement with Steve. But it has often been said that one man's junk is another's treasure.
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Jul 9, 2015 23:47:44   #
SteveR wrote:
There is a lot that I like about this photo: the framing by the foliage, the various layers from top to bottom, and the subject itself. CM spoke about some of the p/p issues, but I'm more concerned about the placement of the lighthouse itself. It's neither dead center or on a third, so it seems a bit awkward. I'm glad that you'll be retaking this photo. I hope that you can still achieve the same framing, yet find a way to position the lighthouse more favorably.



Steve, I hear what you are saying and I understand. I think a greater problem is the tree. I am a proponent of framing and trees often work well - when utilized with consideration to the entire image, they are wonderful tools of perspective. This one is problematic for the image: it is too dark and takes up too much viewing area. Simply, when considering balance, it is too overwhelming.

Although the lighthouse is thought to be the focus of attention, its presence has been downplayed. Keep the lighthouse, but call a tree surgeon. Then give consideration to the position and elevations of the camera.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:08:26   #
I think this is assa9
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Apr 21, 2015 16:58:03   #
There was a comment regarding the sky. Residing in Pittsburgh, I could have thought that the statue of Fred Rodgers was merely an attempt show off this rare, blue phenomenon.

I can understand why some would think that this sky is a distraction; it is, however, a descriptor of Mr. Rodgers television persona.

This subject requires a very simple presentation - and you have provided one.
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Apr 13, 2015 18:11:08   #
I am not sure what you mean by professional service. However, Costco will print to the maximum size their machines allow and then cut the paper to the size you specify. If you are satisfied with their printing, you will be more than happy with the price.
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Mar 30, 2015 13:02:15   #
The image is an urban scene and the lettering on the awning and the hydrant are parts of that scene. I find the hydrant, however, a bit distracting because it is what draws me into the image - not the intended clock.

I generally prefer to leave cityscapes as they are: they are a particular place at a particular time. It is like taking the picture of a stranger on the street who happens to have a flower on his lapel. I would tend to not remove it because it belongs - even if a distraction. It helps to define the main subject.

Regarding the reflections, it is a pity that some consider them to be a distraction. Many of us work very hard to capture them. Here, they show that in a complicated cityscape, there is still a blue sky.

With all that said, I like the picture because I am fascinated by these old clocks that represent a previous era. They are signs that name the building or signify its purpose. They are, however, difficult to photograph because they are often not easy to visually extract from their background. Without a greater level of separation, the whole image is just too busy.
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Mar 18, 2015 10:37:31   #
OlinBost wrote:
This semester my granddaughter is taking a photo classes in high school. Last semester it was a digital class. This semester it is a film class. Part of the class deals with developing the film. Also a large part of the classes deal with long essays and not much on the camera and shooting specifics (lighting, subject, camera settings, lenses, etc).

Now: how many still use film (she is using my old Nikon N75 and I still have some film)? And how many still develop B&H or color film?

I am disappointed with what she is telling me that the teacher is teaching or rather not teaching.
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I have shot box car loads of film. I thought it was great when, for practical purposes, that was all there was. Now I shoot digital and don't want to go back.

That said, besides being a niche, there is great value in teaching and learning film. It is not just art, it is a view and appreciation of art history. Technology has changed and film and film technology is the stepping stone that was used to build the lessons of today.

The problem seems to be that the student is not getting an insight of today by not getting an appreciation of what has gone on before.

You may be disappointed because you have failed to realize the relevance of her efforts and those of the school. As you expand your own mind, you can help your granddaughter's to grow.
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Feb 26, 2015 00:52:05   #
SharpShooter wrote:
The lights are probably on a stand. They just appear to be part of the guys set-up.
I'm on my phone so can't see it but the light is probably an Rotalux or Octo and an LED fill.
But the Camera is for sure legit, it's a Canon !! :lol: :lol:
SS




Perhaps not the best camera or lens, but probably adequate.
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Feb 26, 2015 00:43:07   #
Mogul wrote:
Must add:

3. Shooting first wedding; what settings should I use?

4. What is best organizing/editing software?

5. Which is better, Nikon or Canon? (Possible new forum)

UPDATE:

6. How do I become a professional?



Instead of adding to he number of sections, I suggest that we consider combining many and use the title that is often used for the original thread:" Help". This category could easily accommodate General Discussion, Analysis, Post Processing, Wedding and even Critique.


Sorry, Mogul, I added this prior to seeing your second entry in this thread.
You are the first one that I remember having this suggestion. I would be pleased to support you if you accept the position as moderator.
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Feb 25, 2015 16:59:06   #
I am just one who has grown tired of your repetitive BS.
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Feb 14, 2015 23:28:07   #
Simplest thing that has always worked when I have had this problem: check to see that the card has been fully inserted into the slot.
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Feb 9, 2015 15:12:18   #
Ron M wrote:
This is the best, most interesting English spellinglesson I have had to date.

Did you know "listen" and "silent" use the same letters ?
Do you know that the words "race car" spelled backwards still spells "race car" ?
And that "eat" is the only word that if you take the first letter and move it to the last, it spells its past tense "ate" ?

Have you noticed that if you rearrange the letters in "illegal immigrants," add just a few more letters, it spells: "Go home you free-loading, benefit- grabbing, resource-sucking, baby-making, non-English-speaking twats and take those other towel-head, hairy-faced, sandal-wearing, bomb-making, camel-riding, goat-shagging, raggedy-ass bastards with you."

How weird is that?
This is the best, most interesting English spellin... (show quote)


Would you care to share your thoughts on this?
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